Why do you guys talk about religion so much

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Again. Stem cell research is legal now. Second, it was a moral issue, not a religous one.

Bottom line is there are plenty of private investors investing money in the research as we speak...

And if all it took was a different president for something to become legal or illegal, isn't it still a huge issue? What will the next president do? How does every government official feel about it? Regardless of its legality, it doesn't stop become an issue until everyone's mindset changes. IE. racism is still an issue even though we legally have the same rights as white people.

And a big part of religious belief is the moral code they adhere to.
 

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To be fair, the peak of the religious right's influence was 2004, I think you're arguing against factors that don't exist on the same scale anymore. Factors that certainly do not have the same impact on electoral politics. But you're in Kentucky so it obviously affects you, but everyone doesn't live in the bible belt. If you're from the East Coast you know that presbyterians and people of that sort tend to vote blue, as do catholics, so from that perspective we're looking at you guys as if you're fighting battles that aren't that significant on a daily basis and I think that's where some of these guys are coming from. Religion isn't the problem, I grew up in a completely liberal church so everyone's experiences are different. Radically religious people are the problem. That's an issue you guys in appalachia and the south need to figure out, and that'll change soon too with people moving into Florida and Texas from the North.

But I guess a lot of you guys don't get to talk about this issues on a daily basis so I don't fault you. But as someone who is christian with a bunch of agnostic and some atheist friends (a large percentage of my friends might be agnostic now that I think about it), this all just seems like overkill. Our religious discussions are few and never get like this. I didn't realize it was that rare in our generation.
shyt sucks down here in KY man. Surrounded by fukking morons. Louisville is democrat dominant at least, but not by much.
Again. Stem cell research is legal now. Second, it was a moral issue, not a religous one.

Bottom line is there are plenty of private investors investing money in the research as we speak...

Not true. It was a moral issue rooted in moral opposition based in religion. Political resistance against it was for clearly stated religious reasons. Opponents felt that the soul/life begins at conception, and thus it was immoral to destroy embryonic stem cells.
thanks for the succinct and accurate response VVD. Couldn't have said it better.
 

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Why is it that you're still posting like anyone here cares about what you have to say? Go play somewhere, some of us folks here are actually having an intelligent conversation.

Really?

Don't let me expose ya bytch ass by doing a top 100 keyword search of ya posts.

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Not true. It was a moral issue rooted in moral opposition based in religion. Political resistance against it was for clearly stated religious reasons. Opponents felt that the soul/life begins at conception, and thus it was immoral to destroy embryonic stem cells.

So all Christians are pro life and and all atheists\agnostics are 100% pro choice...It's that absolute?

It has to be in order for your point to be accurate
 

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Of course it does....

You don't know any atheists that are against abortion and stem cell research?

Not sure what that has to do with anything. You said that opposition to stem cell isn't religious-based.

When I said it is, you said that can't be the case unless all religious people are against it and all non-religious people are for it. That statement doesn't make any sense.
 
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Not sure what that has to do with anything. You said that opposition to stem cell isn't religious-based.

When I said it is, you said that can't be the case unless all religious people are against it and all non-religious people are for it. That statement doesn't make any sense.

It makes perfect sense. Its common sense at its finest..

If you have atheists/agnostics against stem cell research(and its a bunch of them) whom don't believe in any religion, and christians whom are against stem cell research that follow religion, then clearly the opposition against stem cell research is not steeped in religion.

It clearly appears to be a morality issue.
 

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It makes perfect sense. Its common sense at its finest..

If you have atheists/agnostics against stem cell research(and its a bunch of them) whom don't believe in any religion, and christians whom are against stem cell research that follow religion, then clearly the opposition against stem cell research is not steeped in religion.

It clearly appears to be a morality issue.
I've never heard of a single atheist or agnostic that's against stem cell research first of all. Do you have any evidence for this?

And yes, opposition to stem cell research is rooted in religiosity. I never said every religious person is against stem cell research. Most people, religious included obviously are for it. The people who are against it mostly state their opposition is based in their religious interpretation and that is undeniable.
 
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