Why do some Blacks embrace Egyptian, Native American, Hebrew roots but not West African?

[BigMan]

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

When I encountered my first Hebrew Israelite videos I wanted to slap the hell out of those black people.I'm tired of my people being gullible to stupidness and nonsense. Native American culture is a different thing that is because people can actually trace their ancestry back to America and not West Africa. I never really cared that much about Egypt I don't even know the names of the Pharaohs with Cleopatra being the exception.

I don't encourage our people to learn about West African culture mainly because that's not the majority's history...our people have connection to that land but originally our people are from America. You can't force African culture onto people who know their heritage. The only connection we really have is that some of their people were brought over here and some of our people we shipped over there.

Only about 300,000 Africans were brought to the shores of North America and that occurred mostly in the late 1700s to the Civil War. Our population is over 40 million in the United States...mathematically you can't get that many from 300,000 Africans in just over a century. (But you will have some nikkas believing in fairy tales, they start fantasizing about slavery talking about rape from the masta and massive breeding farms just so they can hold onto their narrative)

A picture of Nat Love (Clearly this brother is not West African), a black cowboy...he was born into slavery.

Another black cowboy (look at his hair)

More of our people...you know those 100k free colored or black people were Indians

Our people on Tobacco plantations around 1500s-1600s (they said the Indians introduced tobacco to Europeans not Africans). Well why don't you see any straight hair (stereotypical) indians on these posters?

Our people always talking about 400 years of slavery when Africans were only enslaved in these for no longer than 100 years. Meanwhile our native ancestors were enslaved and made prisoners of wars. We fought back against these cacs everytime. That's one of the reasons why they started bringing Africans to these shores.

West Africa does not have really have diverse features if you exclude migration....our people were the first to be enslaved and traded around in the Triangular Trade...our people were sent to Europe and Africa. That's where you get some of these artifacts made by European tobacco store owners. (The cacs in Europe know who we are...if you travel to foreign countries you might get asked are you Indian or American?)

Our people were shipped to West Africa too..Ex: Americo-Liberians (notice their flag...look up their coat of arms too)

Indigenous West Africans

Indigenous Americans (you can tell African Americans are a mixed group of people)

I don't see many Indigenous West African males who hair look like this (I know an African...this nikka hair look like it hasn't grown at all)

Here we go
- Very few Af-Ams (less than 2 percent) have indigenous Amerindian heritage.
http://www.theroot.com/high-cheekbones-and-straight-black-hair-1790878167
- Yes, 300,000 or so enslaves Africans were brought to the Thirteen Colonies and the US before the slave trade was slowly ended starting in 1807 - but you forget that Af-Ams had a natural increase comparative to European settlers in America. These numbers make sense:

African Americans in the United States[62]
Year Number % of total
population % Change
(10 yr) Slaves % in slavery
1790 757,208 19.3% (highest) – 697,681 92%
1800 1,002,037 18.9% 32.3% 893,602 89%
1810 1,377,808 19.0% 37.5% 1,191,362 86%
1820 1,771,656 18.4% 28.6% 1,538,022 87%
1830 2,328,642 18.1% 31.4% 2,009,043 86%
1840 2,873,648 16.8% 23.4% 2,487,355 87%
1850 3,638,808 15.7% 26.6% 3,204,287 88%
1860 4,441,830 14.1% 22.1% 3,953,731 89%
1870 4,880,009 12.7% 9.9% – –
1880 6,580,793 13.1% 34.9% – –
1890 7,488,788 11.9% 13.8% – –
1900 8,833,994 11.6% 18.0% – –
1910 9,827,763 10.7% 11.2% – –
1920 10.5 million 9.9% 6.8% – –
1930 11.9 million 9.7% (lowest) 13% – –
1940 12.9 million 9.8% 8.4% – –
1950 15.0 million 10.0% 16% – –
1960 18.9 million 10.5% 26% – –
1970 22.6 million 11.1% 20% – –
1980 26.5 million 11.7% 17% – –
1990 30.0 million 12.1% 13% – –
2000 34.6 million 12.3% 15% – –
2010 38.9 million 12.6% 12% – –

- Africa has very diverse features! What are you talking about?

West Africa, Central Africa, Mozambique + Madagascar (2 per cent of enslaved Africans from the Americas came from this part of Africa)

Yoruba

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Fulani

Ovambo

Tuareg

Songhai

Hausa

Kanuri

Wolof

Igbo

Madagascar

Africa is very diverse

- Finally, my dad had hair like that last picture in the 70s and he's from Nigeria.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Nigerian men in the 70s with Afros

Nigerian women with afros in the 70s

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

 

[A Different Narrative]

Here we go
- Very few Af-Ams (less than 2 percent) have indigenous Amerindian heritage.
http://www.theroot.com/high-cheekbones-and-straight-black-hair-1790878167
- Yes, 300,000 or so enslaves Africans were brought to the Thirteen Colonies and the US before the slave trade was slowly ended starting in 1807 - but you forget that Af-Ams had a natural increase comparative to European settlers in America. These numbers make sense:

African Americans in the United States[62]
Year Number % of total
population % Change
(10 yr) Slaves % in slavery
1790 757,208 19.3% (highest) – 697,681 92%
1800 1,002,037 18.9% 32.3% 893,602 89%
1810 1,377,808 19.0% 37.5% 1,191,362 86%
1820 1,771,656 18.4% 28.6% 1,538,022 87%
1830 2,328,642 18.1% 31.4% 2,009,043 86%
1840 2,873,648 16.8% 23.4% 2,487,355 87%
1850 3,638,808 15.7% 26.6% 3,204,287 88%
1860 4,441,830 14.1% 22.1% 3,953,731 89%
1870 4,880,009 12.7% 9.9% – –
1880 6,580,793 13.1% 34.9% – –
1890 7,488,788 11.9% 13.8% – –
1900 8,833,994 11.6% 18.0% – –
1910 9,827,763 10.7% 11.2% – –
1920 10.5 million 9.9% 6.8% – –
1930 11.9 million 9.7% (lowest) 13% – –
1940 12.9 million 9.8% 8.4% – –
1950 15.0 million 10.0% 16% – –
1960 18.9 million 10.5% 26% – –
1970 22.6 million 11.1% 20% – –
1980 26.5 million 11.7% 17% – –
1990 30.0 million 12.1% 13% – –
2000 34.6 million 12.3% 15% – –
2010 38.9 million 12.6% 12% – –

- Africa has very diverse features! What are you talking about?

West Africa, Central Africa, Mozambique + Madagascar (2 per cent of enslaved Africans from the Americas came from this part of Africa)

Yoruba

Oh no here we go....I am sorry I have to destroy your narrative but you're wrong. You posted a link to Henry Louis Gates another black "leader" that has been c00nin like the rest of them.

If you compare the black population in America in 1790 to the amount of Africans brought cumulatively by 1790 you will notice that the black population was more than the amount of Africans brought. The African population in America would have been around 193,000 yet the black population in America is nearly 800,000

There are many factors you are leaving out as well. Back in the day not everyone could read or write, less advance technology, not everyone fills out the census, geographical locations, some people identify as American Indian, THOUSANDS of negroes were shipped to West Africa, and the most important of them all is that there were DOZENS of Indian Wars including the Civil War and American Revolutionary Wars. In wars you have large casualties most of the time.

In Modern day, people still don't fill out the census...I have never known a hood nikka to fill out a census form...most of them are clearly worried about other things especially those who have a warrant out for their arrest. Some people still put American Indian on their job application forms.

You know I was specifically talking about West Africa since that's where the majority of the African slaves came from...so I don't know why you are mentioning other parts of Africa to strengthen your argument. And before you post any pictures of any more groups here is something for you...

1. Ghana -Tabom people ["Afro-Brazilians"]; -WEB DuBois last died in the capital of Accra at the age of 95 and have a few thousand Negro Americans there today. African-American Association of Ghana
2. Liberia - Americo-Liberians
3. Sierra Leone -Jamaicans/other Carribs -Nova Scotians [Canadians]
4. Nigeria - Amaros ("Afro-Brazilians" and Afro-Cubans") -Saros (Sierra Leonian-descent) Both live in Lagos.
5. Angola -Afro-Brazilians (Jack D. Forbes "Africans and Native Americans")
6. The Gambia (Aku people, descendants of Sierra Leone Liberated Africans, Settlers (Candians), transatlantic immigrants to the Gambia, and liberated Africans dropped off in the Gambia.
7. Ethiopia -Jamaicans and other Carribs via Haile Selassie and Rastafarianism.

The Saros ("Afro-Brazilians") is a demographic people in the Yoruba and Igbo. Mende people and Mandingo/Mandinka is Sierra Leonian group. And we had "Black Nova Scotians" and Jamaicans sent there who are now the "Sierra Leone Creole people."

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Oh no here we go....I am sorry I have to destroy your narrative but you're wrong. You posted a link to Henry Louis Gates another black "leader" that has been c00nin like the rest of them.

If you compare the black population in America in 1790 to the amount of Africans brought cumulatively by 1790 you will notice that the black population was more than the amount of Africans brought. The African population in America would have been around 193,000 yet the black population in America is nearly 800,000

There are many factors you are leaving out as well. Back in the day not everyone could read or write, less advance technology, not everyone fills out the census, geographical locations, some people identify as American Indian, THOUSANDS of negroes were shipped to West Africa, and the most important of them all is that there were DOZENS of Indian Wars including the Civil War and American Revolutionary Wars. In wars you have large casualties most of the time.

In Modern day, people still don't fill out the census...I have never known a hood nikka to fill out a census form...most of them are clearly worried about other things especially those who have a warrant out for their arrest. Some people still put American Indian on their job application forms.

You know I was specifically talking about West Africa since that's where the majority of the African slaves came from...so I don't know why you are mentioning other parts of Africa to strengthen your argument. And before you post any pictures of any more groups here is something for you...

1. Ghana -Tabom people ["Afro-Brazilians"]; -WEB DuBois last died in the capital of Accra at the age of 95 and have a few thousand Negro Americans there today. African-American Association of Ghana
2. Liberia - Americo-Liberians
3. Sierra Leone -Jamaicans/other Carribs -Nova Scotians [Canadians]
4. Nigeria - Amaros ("Afro-Brazilians" and Afro-Cubans") -Saros (Sierra Leonian-descent) Both live in Lagos.
5. Angola -Afro-Brazilians (Jack D. Forbes "Africans and Native Americans")
6. The Gambia (Aku people, descendants of Sierra Leone Liberated Africans, Settlers (Candians), transatlantic immigrants to the Gambia, and liberated Africans dropped off in the Gambia.
7. Ethiopia -Jamaicans and other Carribs via Haile Selassie and Rastafarianism.

The Saros ("Afro-Brazilians") is a demographic people in the Yoruba and Igbo. Mende people and Mandingo/Mandinka is Sierra Leonian group. And we had "Black Nova Scotians" and Jamaicans sent there who are now the "Sierra Leone Creole people."

"If you compare the black population in America in 1790 to the amount of Africans brought cumulatively by 1790 you will notice that the black population was more than the amount of Africans brought. The African population in America would have been around 193,000 yet the black population in America is nearly 800,000"
Because of natural population increase. Cacs were deliberately 'breeding' Black woman to produce many children. Especially after the end of the slave trade in 1807.

"In Modern day, people still don't fill out the census...I have never known a hood nikka to fill out a census form..." Because your anecdote can be applied to how African-Americans behave by and large, right?

What is the relevance of you naming Americo-Liberians or Saros when you're arguing that African-Americans are indigenous Native Americans?

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Read this book:

 

[Bawon Samedi]

@A Different Narrative

Lets keep the pseudo nonsense in the locker room.

 

[BigMan]

You niggrums will say anything that seperstes you from Africa despite all the scientific and historical evidence against you

I'm sure there were some" black" people in America before cacs but you not one of them

 

[Breh Obama]

Brehs let's stop arguing over the logistics and actually start spreading knowledge of ALL of Africa...

Keep in mind Egypt is the birth place of "civilization" but there was still much going on around the entire area...

At That time there were no borders....all of Africa including what is now the Middle East was all once considered Africa and was called Aithiopia

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Gus T. Renegade of the C.O.W.S. interviews authors of a book about slave-breeding in the US

 

[A Different Narrative]

"If you compare the black population in America in 1790 to the amount of Africans brought cumulatively by 1790 you will notice that the black population was more than the amount of Africans brought. The African population in America would have been around 193,000 yet the black population in America is nearly 800,000"
Because of natural population increase. Cacs were deliberately 'breeding' Black woman to produce many children. Especially after the end of the slave trade in 1807.

"In Modern day, people still don't fill out the census...I have never known a hood nikka to fill out a census form..." Because your anecdote can be applied to how African-Americans behave by and large, right?

What is the relevance of you naming Americo-Liberians or Saros when you're arguing that African-Americans are indigenous Native Americans?

Can you please explain to me how you can get 750,000 blacks from 193,00 Africans? How does a population increase by over 500,000 in just 60 years through natural birth? Here you go with the breeding fairy tales...you do know the majority of the cargo were African males? How does that work? A pregnancy takes month...remember the population went over 500,000 in just 60 years.

The reason I mentioned Americo-Liberians was to reference the fact that negroes were being shipped out of this country and into West Africa. You have people posting pictures of West Africans talking about diverse features when they don't even know the history behind the people or country.

You niggrums will say anything that seperstes you from Africa despite all the scientific and historical evidence against you

I'm sure there were some" black" people in America before cacs but you not one of them

Yeah all the scientific evidence like DNA that ignores migration....yeah all the historical evidence like the hugh slave ships in the museums right (the ones that could pack 400 Africans)

 

[Menelik II]

Here we go
- Very few Af-Ams (less than 2 percent) have indigenous Amerindian heritage.
http://www.theroot.com/high-cheekbones-and-straight-black-hair-1790878167
- Yes, 300,000 or so enslaves Africans were brought to the Thirteen Colonies and the US before the slave trade was slowly ended starting in 1807 - but you forget that Af-Ams had a natural increase comparative to European settlers in America. These numbers make sense:

African Americans in the United States[62]
Year Number % of total
population % Change
(10 yr) Slaves % in slavery
1790 757,208 19.3% (highest) – 697,681 92%
1800 1,002,037 18.9% 32.3% 893,602 89%
1810 1,377,808 19.0% 37.5% 1,191,362 86%
1820 1,771,656 18.4% 28.6% 1,538,022 87%
1830 2,328,642 18.1% 31.4% 2,009,043 86%
1840 2,873,648 16.8% 23.4% 2,487,355 87%
1850 3,638,808 15.7% 26.6% 3,204,287 88%
1860 4,441,830 14.1% 22.1% 3,953,731 89%
1870 4,880,009 12.7% 9.9% – –
1880 6,580,793 13.1% 34.9% – –
1890 7,488,788 11.9% 13.8% – –
1900 8,833,994 11.6% 18.0% – –
1910 9,827,763 10.7% 11.2% – –
1920 10.5 million 9.9% 6.8% – –
1930 11.9 million 9.7% (lowest) 13% – –
1940 12.9 million 9.8% 8.4% – –
1950 15.0 million 10.0% 16% – –
1960 18.9 million 10.5% 26% – –
1970 22.6 million 11.1% 20% – –
1980 26.5 million 11.7% 17% – –
1990 30.0 million 12.1% 13% – –
2000 34.6 million 12.3% 15% – –
2010 38.9 million 12.6% 12% – –

^^ infact the AA growth rates were lower than the whites, so this MIRACULOUS growth rate was not at all. The AA growth rate can't be above average if their percentage of population dropped from 19% to 12.6%

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Can you please explain to me how you can get 750,000 blacks from 193,00 Africans? How does a population increase by over 500,000 in just 60 years through natural birth? Here you go with the breeding fairy tales...you do know the majority of the cargo were African males? How does that work? A pregnancy takes month...remember the population went over 500,000 in just 60 years.

The reason I mentioned Americo-Liberians was to reference the fact that negroes were being shipped out of this country and into West Africa. You have people posting pictures of West Africans talking about diverse features when they don't even know the history behind the people or country.


Yeah all the scientific evidence like DNA that ignores migration....yeah all the historical evidence like the hugh slave ships in the museums right (the ones that could pack 400 Africans)

- Your 193,000 number is incorrect. Just a bit less than 400,000 enslaved Africans arrived in the ports which now constitute the United States starting from 1619 to 1807.
- Slave-holders did their best to import female slaves for domestic labour and slave breeding. The gender equality was greater in what is now the Caribbean and not in Thirteen Colonies.
- Actually, most plantations had a 2:1 ratio for females to males.

Demographics[edit]
In a study of 2,588 slaves in 1860 by the economist Richard Sutch, he found that on slave-holdings with at least one woman, the average ratio of women to men exceeded 2:1. The imbalance was greater in the "selling states", where the excess of women over men was 300 per thousand.[15]

- Americo-Liberans were a very small proportion of the US Black population (17 K out of 1.77 M)

From the Peopling of Africa thread:

Another new population was the result of the American Colonization Society for freed American Black people. A small number of them landed in Cape Mesurado in 1822. They founded Liberia and the settlement of Monrovia. No more than 17,000 migrated. The disease burden also took its toll.

You are exaggerating Black American migration to Liberia.

On me posting pictures of West Africa, I just created an over 17 page thread on the Ethnographic History of Africa. You should read it:
The Peopling of Africa