Why do some black people claim obviously mixed people as black?

Idaeo

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Nobody said anything about vast majorities.

Melungeon (/məˈlʌndʒən/ mə-lun-jən) is a term traditionally applied to one of numerous "tri-racial isolate" groups of the Southeastern United States. Historically, Melungeons were associated with the Cumberland Gaparea of central Appalachia, which includes portions of East Tennessee, Southwest Virginia, and eastern Kentucky. Tri-racial describes populations thought to be of mixed European, African and Native Americanancestry. Although there is no consensus on how many such groups exist, estimates range as high as 200.[1][2] Melungeons were often referred to by other settlers as of Portuguese or Native American origin.

According to the Tennessee Encyclopedia of History and Culture, in his 1950 dissertation, cultural geographer Edward Price proposed that Melungeons were families descended from free people of color (who were likely of both European and African ancestry) and mixed-race unions between persons of African ancestry and Native Americans in colonial Virginia.[3]
 

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Nobody inherited anything from a white owner. My ancestors bought their own freedom and the land that was passed down.

Do some real research breh.


Thomas' Bunbury (c. 1640 -1680) great-grandson, John Bunbury (c. 1762 - 1791), a substantial tobacco planter whose farm and lands were in the vicinity of Owens Post Office about 1780, fathered a mulatto child named Richard "dikk" by one of his female slaves. The name of this woman, our ancestress, is not recorded and she is lost to us as an individual. When Richard's father John died in 1791, he was not sold along with the other estate slaves but given - what was in those days - "special consideration" being instead willed to his own half-brother - Thomas Bunbury. Richard (c. 1780 - 1849) remained his brother's slave for 15 years (1791-1806) during which time he received instruction in blacksmithing and general farming. Although a slave, Richard acquired the skills of reading and writing, and his brother allowed him the freedom of working for other local planters. By this means, Richard saved $400.00 with which he purchased his own emancipation in 1806. This Richard Bumbrey (c. 1780 - 1849) was the founder of the black Bumbrey families of eastern Virginia. Unlike his half brother and other white Bumbrey relatives whose family lines died out, or later moved to the richer and newer farming lands of Piedmont Virginia, Kentucky, Missouri, and Mississippi, Richard remained in King George County where he accumulated capital and property as a skilled tradesman; he also married a slave woman whom he was unable to emancipate. Nonetheless, the eight children by this marriage - 5 sons and 3 daughters, he did succeed in purchasing their freedom one by one. The U.S. Census records of 1820 show all eight children living with their father on his small farm in the vicinity of present-day Little Ark Baptist Church. On Richard Bumbrey's death in 1849, his will distributed lands, clothing, and money to his 8 children, and from these children sprang the Bumbrey family, as well as other interrelated families of King George, Westmoreland, Fredericksburg, and Washington, DC.
 
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Nobody inherited anything from a white owner. My ancestors bought their own freedom and the land that was passed down.

Do some real research breh.


Thomas' Bunbury (c. 1640 -1680) great-grandson, John Bunbury (c. 1762 - 1791), a substantial tobacco planter whose farm and lands were in the vicinity of Owens Post Office about 1780, fathered a mulatto child named Richard "dikk" by one of his female slaves. The name of this woman, our ancestress, is not recorded and she is lost to us as an individual. When Richard's father John died in 1791, he was not sold along with the other estate slaves but given - what was in those days - "special consideration" being instead willed to his own half-brother - Thomas Bunbury. Richard (c. 1780 - 1849) remained his brother's slave for 15 years (1791-1806) during which time he received instruction in blacksmithing and general farming. Although a slave, Richard acquired the skills of reading and writing, and his brother allowed him the freedom of working for other local planters. By this means, Richard saved $400.00 with which he purchased his own emancipation in 1806. This Richard Bumbrey (c. 1780 - 1849) was the founder of the black Bumbrey families of eastern Virginia. Unlike his half brother and other white Bumbrey relatives whose family lines died out, or later moved to the richer and newer farming lands of Piedmont Virginia, Kentucky, Missouri, and Mississippi, Richard remained in King George County where he accumulated capital and property as a skilled tradesman; he also married a slave woman whom he was unable to emancipate. Nonetheless, the eight children by this marriage - 5 sons and 3 daughters, he did succeed in purchasing their freedom one by one. The U.S. Census records of 1820 show all eight children living with their father on his small farm in the vicinity of present-day Little Ark Baptist Church. On Richard Bumbrey's death in 1849, his will distributed lands, clothing, and money to his 8 children, and from these children sprang the Bumbrey family, as well as other interrelated families of King George, Westmoreland, Fredericksburg, and Washington, DC.
again even if true...you are the anomaly not the norm
 

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you really think normal AAs are copping ancestry.com packages and posting the results online cause they so shocked and proud of their mythical cac roots they needed to share:childplease:


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Thirty-nine lashes “well laid” on her bare back and an extension of her indentured servitude was Elizabeth Banks’s punishment for “fornication & b*stardy with a negroe slave,” according to a stark June 20, 1683, court document from York County, Va. Through the alchemy of celebrity and genealogy, that record and others led to the recent discovery that Banks, a free white woman despite her servitude, was the paternal ninth great-grandmother of Wanda Sykes, the ribald comedian and actress.

More than an intriguing boldface-name connection, it is a rare find even in a genealogy-crazed era in which Internet sites like ancestry.com, with more than 14 million users, and the popular NBC program “Who Do You Think You Are?” play on that fascination. Because slavery meant that their black ancestors were considered property and not people, most African-Americans are able to trace their roots in this country only back to the first quarter of the 19th century.

“This is an extraordinary case and the only such case that I know of in which it is possible to trace a black family rooted in freedom from the late 17th century to the present,” said the historian Ira Berlin, a professor at the University of Maryland known for his work on slavery and African-American history.

Mary Banks, the biracial child born to Elizabeth Banks around 1683, inherited her mother’s free status, although she too was indentured. Mary appeared to have four children. There are many other unanswered questions, but the family grew, often as free people of color married or paired off with other free people of color.

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Wanda Sykes Credit Joseph Sinnott/WNET
Ms. Sykes’s family history was professionally researched for a segment of “Finding Your Roots With Henry Louis Gates Jr.,” a new series that has its debut Sunday on PBS.

“The bottom line is that Wanda Sykes has the longest continuously documented family tree of any African-American we have ever researched, ” said Mr. Gates, the director of the W. E. B. Du Bois Institute for African and African American Research at Harvard. He was referring to the dozens of genealogies his researchers have unearthed for his television roots franchise, which began in 2006 with the PBS series “African-American Lives” and includes three other genealogy-inspired shows. Mr. Gates said he also checked Ms. Sykes’s family tree with historians, including Mr. Berlin.

Among the subjects whose pasts are summoned this season on “Finding Your Roots” are Barbara Walters (who learns her original family surname), Harry Connick Jr., Samuel L. Jackson, Margaret Cho, Kevin Bacon, Representative John Lewis of Georgia, Branford Marsalis, Robert Downey Jr. and Dr. Sanjay Gupta. The episode with Ms. Sykes is set for May.

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“I was so disappointed he didn’t get me any casino money out of this,” Ms. Sykes said in an interview. She added, referring to Mr. Gates by his nickname: “Come on Skip, tell me I’m a relative of Pocahontas. I would have retired.”

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Wanda Sykes with Henry Louis Gates Jr. Credit Joseph Sinnott/WNET
Ms. Sykes, 48, is known for her salty stand-up act as well as comedic roles in film (“Monster in Law”) and on television (“The New Adventures of Old Christine,” “Curb Your Enthusiasm”). But after learning about those largely unknown relatives, she said, “It was very emotional,” adding that she thought about the hardships they endured. She was also crushed to discover that two of them owned slaves themselves. “It’s no princess story, not at all,” she said.

Generations of Sykeses have remained in Virginia. Elizabeth Banks (born around 1665) probably arrived from Scotland. Ms. Sykes herself was born in Portsmouth, Va., and grew up in the Washington area, the child of Harry Ellsworth Sykes, an Army colonel, and the former Marion Louise Peoples, who worked at a bank. Ms. Sykes has fraternal twins with her wife, Alex Sykes, and said she eventually plans to share the new family tree with them. “I’m just grateful I do have a history, “Ms. Sykes said. “It’s bittersweet. I was not able to trace the other three grandparents, and that’s huge.

“It shows that we’re still paying for the history of this country, basically. It’s just incredible to go back and see that you did not matter.”

Africans arrived in the New World in Jamestown in 1619. But because most African-Americans were listed only as property on official documents, their descendants lack the marriage records, wills, property and other information to find them. Free blacks, who left a paper trail, can be traced more easily. The first year that all African-Americans were listed by name in the federal census is 1870.

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Records from 1683 detail punishment for one of Ms. Sykes’s ancestors. Credit Register of Free Negroes
The initial evidence of Ms. Sykes’s free ancestors involved the 1853 marriage recorded for her third great-grandparents, with the words “free Negroes” right after their names. Those papers — entries from the Register of Free Negroes — also helped lead researchers all the way back to Elizabeth Banks.

Johni Cerny, who is the chief genealogist for Mr. Gates’s television programs, noted that many African-Americans with white ancestry could trace their heritage beyond the 1600s to European ancestors. She said 85 percent of African-Americans have some European ancestry.

“The unique thing about Wanda is that she descends from 10 generations of free Virginia mulattos, which is more rare than descendants of mixed-race African-Americans who descend from English royalty,” Ms. Cerny wrote in an e-mail message.

More than 1,000 mixed-race children were born to white women in colonial Virginia and Maryland, but their existence has been erased from oral and written history, said Paul Heinegg, a respected lay genealogist and historian. Mr. Heinegg’s Web site, freeafricanamericans.com, features books and documents like tax lists that provide information about those families.

The tale of Elizabeth Banks and the nameless black man with whom she had at least one child (records indicate the possibility of a second half-black daughter, Anne, whose father is unknown) pushes us to imagine the lives of the first Africans in the New World beyond popular images of plantation life, Mr. Berlin said. In the Virginia colony of the mid- and early-1600s it was not unusual for blacks and white indentured servants to come together in the shared misery of bondage, he said, before the development of a distinct slave society and hardened racial attitudes. It also highlights a black family that defied the odds and thrived.

“What kind of world does Elizabeth live in that not only does she have this relationship with a black guy but she builds upon this to ensure her children are free and they continue to be free?” Mr. Berlin said. All the way to Wanda Sykes.

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1)all cacs are racist some are better hiding it than others:ufdup:

2)cacs in the genealogy/anthropology field have been the gate keepers of white supremacy in science...again google Hamatic theory

3) don't act like you haven't witnessed racist snow ape strolling on on forums such as topix AA forum/ implying their Neanderthal blood raised AAs collective intelligence and softened our features:stopitslime:

Yes, but that doesnt explain how and why they want to claim Blacks are 25% cac when they already insist anyone with any Black blood is Black.
 
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Yes, but that doesnt explain how and why they want to claim Blacks are 25% cac when they already insist anyone with any Black blood is Black.
white supremacist vary in their in their stance on this subject(some or more liberal than others)this but as i already showed you cacs in the anthropology field have a long history of making up and exaggerating Caucazoid lineage for prominent black people and for the last half century or so AAs have been the forefront of the black race as far as influence and achievement:yeshrug:since when like 1900:childplease:i don't think that one drop shyt was every really applied across the board as implied considering cacs made clear distinctions between mutt populations like creole and black Americans even during slavery day to the the post slavery pre civil rights era and don't pretend you haven't heard dumb cave dwellers imply Will Smith, Beyonce,Russel Wilson, and other AAs they deem as safe negros not really black:aicmon:
 
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what is this supposed prove? everyone knows nikkas in the entertainment industry are tap dancing mammies and Toms and have been making up mixed linage to appear more marketable/mainstream to conkey casting agents in Hollywood and fanbase for atleast a century:childplease:these ancestry/genealogy scams must have been seen as a blessing for Hollywood crossover negros and another check :mjlol:
 

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white supremacist vary in their in their stance on this subject(some or more liberal than others)this but as i already showed you cacs in the anthropology field have a long history of making up and exaggerating Caucazoid lineage for prominent black people and for the last half century or so AAs have been the forefront of the black race as far as influence and achievement:yeshrug:since when like 1900:childplease:i don't think that one drop shyt was every really applied across the board as implied considering cacs made clear distinctions between mutt populations like creole and black Americans even during slavery day to the the post slavery pre civil rights era and don't pretend you haven't heard dumb cave dwellers imply Will Smith, Beyonce,Russel Wilson, and other AAs they deem as safe negros not really black:aicmon:

Perhaps the problem lies with us even listening to what the snow monkey's have to say as if it is fact. We dont need to listen to anything cacs have to say anymore, thats the problem.
 

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where do I fall in this. My Great Grandmother had a black father and Cherokee mother and was yellow with green eyes. She married a black man and had a bunch of children including my grandmother, who also married a black man and birthed 25(yes, 25) children, including my mother, who also married a black man and had us. Not knowing anything more about the previous generations, am I disqualified from being black? I just want to know. I recently learned my choice of college and birth place made me a c00n. So damn, now I'm not black either?:dahell:
 

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white supremacist vary in their in their stance on this subject(some or more liberal than others)this but as i already showed you cacs in the anthropology field have a long history of making up and exaggerating Caucazoid lineage for prominent black people and for the last half century or so AAs have been the forefront of the black race as far as influence and achievement:yeshrug:since when like 1900:childplease:i don't think that one drop shyt was every really applied across the board as implied considering cacs made clear distinctions between mutt populations like creole and black Americans even during slavery day to the the post slavery pre civil rights era and don't pretend you haven't heard dumb cave dwellers imply Will Smith, Beyonce,Russel Wilson, and other AAs they deem as safe negros not really black:aicmon:

The thing you're forgetting and leaving out is that Aframs have always been aware or claimed admixture in their lineages way before these DNA test became popular. There is some truth to the bolded but as I've already pointed out, it's a moot point because the Afram ethnicity in it's origin is a hybridized "Afro-European" of varying degrees. You can pick out almost any random Afram and find mulatto/white ancestors in their histroy so it's no point in highlighting this fact when one can easily point out this reality with people of shades from dark to light like...


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White, William Jefferson (1832-1913): Born to a white planter and mulatto slave, William Jefferson White was a cabinetmaker by trade and minister by vocation. Born in Elbert County, Georgia, he was taken to South Carolina as a child and returned to Augusta as an adult. He trained in carpentry at the Goodrich Lumber Company and later worked as a cabinet and coffin maker for the Platt Brothers, a furniture and undertaking firm. He also worked construction and helped build several churches and schools in the area. Light skinned and blue eyed, White could have easily "passed" but chose to live as a black man. During the 1850s he he organized clandestine schools for slaves and free blacks, earning him the title of "Father of Negro Education" in the Augusta area. In the days following the Civil War, he became an important figure in the early civil rights movement. He worked hard to forge close associations with the white citizenry, started the Harmony Baptist Church, championed Republican Party causes, and sat on the Board of Trustees for Spelman Seminary. In 1867 he founded the Augusta Institute, which is now Morehouse College


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because he has white/mulatto ancestors

The Ancestors of Tupac Shakur (1971-1996)

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Can we adress why black Americans need to know their slave history so badly that they pay cacs to dig up and store data on their families history? One of my family members said they want to get a ancestry dna website to find out our past and I said don't do it because they release ancestry history to law enforcement and put people in their profile system. But they didn't listen and got the website to do it anyways. I was pissed because now our family is in the system. Why do black people continue to fall for cac bullshyt?
 
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