Why do some black people claim obviously mixed people as black?

[Thabo]

The One Drop rule as we now know it didn't exist during slavery

http://necolebytchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/halle-berry-day-out-in-paris-with-baby-maceo-.jpg

When it came to the clutch who did she procreate with?

 

[Sauanaffe Tustunnagee]

I'm just spitting facts, can you refute that the majority of first accomplishments made were actually mixed though?

since when has groundless generalizations constituted facteasily but cause you made the claim the claim so the burden of proof is on you Toby

 

[Thabo]

since when has groundless generalizations constituted facteasily but cause you made the claim the claim so the burden of proof is on you Toby

So you can't refute.

 

[pickles]

I wager at least 80 percent were biracial and Multi-Generational mixed.

Eric Holder isn't black: just ask his mom

Attorney General Eric Holder wants to talk about race some more.


It's quite interesting how Americans find Eric Holder's ancestry invisible to them. Most of Eric Holder ancestors weren't black. His recent ancestors were middle class mulattos in Barbados who carefully avoided marriage to blacks. (See the last chapter of Malcolm Gladwell's "Outliers" for a description of how people who look like Gladwell and Holder were bred.) Holder grew up in a middle class West Indian enclave in NYC that tried (and in Holder's case succeeded) keeping out black American influence.
Even racists acknowledge the mulatto elite.

Your right he is white.



I can't wait until reps comeback.

 

[Thabo]

Your right he is white.



I can't wait until reps comeback.

He's from a mixed family which avoided marrying full black people.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

It's complicated.


Say your mom is black and your pops is white, but your pops was never around, and you where raised 100% by your black side of the family?

Technically, you're mixed, but mentally/essentially, you're just as black as the rest of your black family members.


How can that black family all of a sudden tell that person "You don't really belong here, you're really apart of the mixed group"


That's why it's complicated.I grew up with family members like that and witnessed it go on all around me.People I grew up with that was lite bright and almost white.All they identified with is black.They wore the African Medallions/Malcolm X hats and had the same gumby cut as the rest of the niccaz.Let you borrow their "Message To The Black Man" and all of that


How can I all of a sudden tell them "You know you're not black, right....your 'mixed' "


Just seems like some snotty nosed shyt to do.Over a fukking technicality.Your body is just a capsule.What fills the capsule is what's important.

That's why I say it's complicated.I deal with all "mixed" looking people on an individual basis.I don't just throw them into some neat lil category.It's too external, shallow.You have to peep the spirit, the mind.


That's why it was so easy for the black community to just say "we're all niccaz" back in the day.That's the way it was when I grew up.


All this mixed/other shyt started popping up around '07....and now niccaz are back to fighting over this shyt like we're back on the plantation....but maybe we never left

 

[Sauanaffe Tustunnagee]

So you can't refute.

why would the onus be on me to refute an ill founded claims made by youi'll quickly entertain you though it means helping clear up confusion


the fact that many of the AA pioneers you imply are biracial bios only mention their AA heritage & nothing about mixed background speaks for itself

Carter G. Woodson Biography
http://www.biography.com/people/carter-g-woodson-9536515#synopsis


Henry Ossian Flipper Biography
http://www.biography.com/people/henry-ossian-flipper-541614

Colonel Charles Young
Colonel Charles Young

 

[Thabo]

why would the onus be on me to refute an ill founded claims made by youi'll quickly entertain you though it means helping clear up confusion


the fact that many of the AA pioneers you imply are biracial bios only mention their AA heritage & nothing about mixed background speaks for itself

Carter G. Woodson Biography
http://www.biography.com/people/carter-g-woodson-9536515#synopsis


Henry Ossian Flipper Biography
http://www.biography.com/people/henry-ossian-flipper-541614

Colonel Charles Young
Colonel Charles Young

The identity of 'Mulatto' has fallen out of fashion in the U.S.; this blog does not see why it should. From his nearly 400-page 1918 investigation of 'The Mulatto in the United States', E.B. Reuter came to the following conclusion:

According to the strictness or the looseness of the definition of full-blooded Negro that is used, and the high or low degree of superiority that is accepted as the test, the twenty per cent of mixed-bloods among the American Negroes have produced eighty-five per cent or upwards of the race's superior men.

 

[Sauanaffe Tustunnagee]

The identity of 'Mulatto' has fallen out of fashion in the U.S.; this blog does not see why it should. From his nearly 400-page 1918 investigation of 'The Mulatto in the United States', E.B. Reuter came to the following conclusion:

According to the strictness or the looseness of the definition of full-blooded Negro that is used, and the high or low degree of superiority that is accepted as the test, the twenty per cent of mixed-bloods among the American Negroes have produced eighty-five per cent or upwards of the race's superior men.

okay its' confirmed you a dumb peckerwod or a self loathing sambo.i'm done but before i ago the white supremacist quote your pasted still doesn't address why the mixed heritage( and even the unconfirmed/rumored mixed heritage) of prominent AAs historical figures is always referenced in officials biographies on them yet none of the according to you mixed AAs I posted and most of the the others you implied were mulatto have no reputable source or other wise backing that theory

 

[IllmaticDelta]

When it came to the clutch who did she procreate with?

this doesn't change what she looks like/society thinks she looks like

In her own words:

It has been asked:

It seems like you don't identify with the white side of your heritage...why is that?

I do identify with my white heritage. I was raised by my white mother and every day of my life I have always been aware of the fact that I am bi-racial. However, growing up I was aware that even though my mother was white, I did not look or FEEL very white myself. When I went to school the other kids always assumed that I was totally black. Many times my classmates did not believe me when I said my mother was white. I soon grew tired of trying to prove that I was half black and half white and learned not to concern myself with what others thought. I began to relate to the other "all black kids" at my school more because quite simply...I looked more like them. I was certainly too dark to run around trying to say I was white (smile).

After having many talks with my mother about the issue, she reinforced what she had always taught me. She said that even though you are half black and half white, you will be discriminated against in this country as a black person. People will not know when they see you that you have a white mother unless you wear a sign on your forehead. And, even if they did, so many people believe that if you have an ounce of black blood in you then you are black. So, therefore, I decided to let folks categorize me however they needed to. I realized that my sense of self and my sense of worth was not determined by the color of my skin or what ethnic group I chose to be a part of. I decided to go about my life normally, be the individual I was and let the issue of my race be the issue of those who had a problem with it.

As I grew I began to feel a very natural connection to the black community. Although I was half white, I began to see that I was being discriminated against the same way my "ALL" black friends were...just as my mother once said. So, the fact that my mother was white, and her blood ran through my veins, made no difference in the face of the ignorance of racism.

So, the question should not be why does it seem like I don't identify with my white heritage, but the question should be, why should it matter what color anyone is or what heritage they identify with? If people would just learn to look at everyone equally and stop trying to label one another the issue of what we are all made of would be null and void. If the truth be told, we are all made of the same thing...flesh, blood and bones! We should all be able to relate and identify with each other. We are all members of the same race, the HUMAN RACE!

Finally, I believe we should all see one another as equal. However, I have evolved into a realist. I have learned to live with the fact that when one looks at me they usually view me as only black. I am not bitter, as I love both the black and white side of myself. In fact, I have realized that by being viewed as only BLACK I am in a wonderful position. I can continue to blaze a trail for black women in film and television and help open the minds of those who have been victims of the racist teachings of the past. If through my life I can help obliterate the negative images of black people and help to abolish the negative stereo types associated with black people...then when I die I will know my life had real purpose.

Sending you lots of love,
~ Halle

Halle On Being A Person Of Bi-racial Heritage:

 

[IllmaticDelta]

wow..tha lenghty article on mixed breed identity and photo gallery of diverse AA mutts has convinced me ...as much as it pains me to admit all socalled black Americans are super admixed with honkeys and others.....i don't feel comfortable being called African American or even black anymore considering we are so much more...clearly through white massa bloodline AAs have evolved to something superior to mere negros....I think we should start a petition for AAs to be labeled something much more appropriate to reflect our diverse heritage...maybe mulatto Americans,Afro, Europeans,blacasians or clacks..as an highly admixed New World person of color it rubs me the wrong way being lumped with pure negros...


seriously are you a zebra or all Neanderthal

AfroAmerican and "Black" are the words

-since when has Carter. G Wilson,/ everyone on that list been mulatto(the few 1/8th black peckerwoods aren't blacks enough to even be halfbreeds)

Carter G was/is 100% "Black" American but have you seen his mother who was also a "black" (former slave) woman?

 

[K.O.N.Y]

someone is showing their inferiority complex...i get it(while most were ) a few 19th century mixed whites and mullatos given credit for AA/black achievement weren't really black at all but what your point and how does make the actual black/AA trail blazers around during that era mulatto

i dont get your point
AA have always had mullatoes in our history. Theres nothing you or i can do to change that
Its literally embedded in our culture

 

[Dameon Farrow]

It's just divisiveness. nikkas have been taught to obsess over divisiveness up to and beyond detriment.

Admit you're the minority and then look for ways to thin the herd for stupid reasons, brehs!

 

[Sauanaffe Tustunnagee]

i dont get your point
AA have always had mullatoes in our history. Theres nothing you or i can do to change that
Its literally embedded in our culture

you don't get it it cause cause u probably not AA....my position: that a few black historical figures being mulatto to off white hardly constitute every AA pioneers being admixed as was implied isn't denying halfbreeds historical presence in the AA communityall i'm saying is they have always been a minority and not some standard for AAs as a whole

 

[K.O.N.Y]

you don't get it it cause cause u probably not AA....my position: that a few black historical figures being mulatto to off white hardly constitute every AA pioneers being admixed as was implied isn't denying halfbreeds historical presence in the AA communityall i'm saying is they have always been a minority and not some standard for AAs as a whole

I am AA. And it seem like your mixing multi generational mixed with direct biracials. I dont think anyone is saying they're the majority