Why do some black people claim obviously mixed people as black?

[CinnaSlim]

mixed/biracial is not a race or ethnicity...

It literally stands for mixed race. How is it not? You can be mixed race but also majority one race. Theres also the term multiracial. Its not an either/or thing.

 

[intruder]

the Caribbean Islands are so small in size and population i doubt Spaniard/Portuguese cacs had to reach as wide into Africa to met their demand and likely were content with a few tribes from specific locations to meet their demand for forced labor to send to their colonies in the Carribean

From what i recall less than 10% of these enslaved africans ended up in North America, playboy. Overwhelming majority went to South America 2nd largest group went to the Caribbean.

 

[Sauanaffe Tustunnagee]

From what i recall less than 10% of these enslaved africans ended up in North America, playboy. Overwhelming majority went to South America 2nd largest group went to the Caribbean.

i'm talking individually Island to Islands in the Caribbean are relatively small,,,,,the vast majority of non AA slaves went to Brazil and probably Colombia 2nd.

 

[Blackout]

I dont know about most but you cant deny that white slave owners raped enslaved women and some of these women had children from said rapes. THis happened in the caribbean too, BTW but we distinguish them as mulatto.

And since some african americans swear they are so genetically different than africans and caribbean blacks, who would those different genes have come from? Am not arguing with you but am just asking the question si i would know. Since a lot of african americans tend to utter words like "such and such looks african" meaning they are black different from african americans. Where did you get those genes, brethren? Africans in general are very diverse.

Whether it be from rape AAs didnt mix much with white people. Any bit of white most of us have in us isnt close to half.

Most who had a kid with them ended up having their biraical child going with a black person thus bringing the liniage back to black.

Not to mention thanks to segregation where mixing was illegal AAs didnt have much mass mixing with white people compared to Dominicans.

As far as "such and such looks african" that is some c00n shyt so that doesnt mean much to smart people who arent white washed.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

You do know that mix on the chart was for the dark skinned brother in the video right?

Poster was proving that people have no fukking clue what black is. You'd look at him and say "he's black"

But according to his dna he's 25% white but none of his parents were white and he's dark yet he's still 25% white


So is he black or mixed?



See why this is stupid? You cannot possibly tell what % someone is from looking at them or their parents. And yet we are going to walk the streets with clip boards, telling people what race they are

BINGO!

 

[Sauanaffe Tustunnagee]

BINGO!

nah that shyt don't add up for obvious reasons

 

[IllmaticDelta]

never denied there has been some/limited breeding between members of the AA community and cacs throughout our time in Amerikkka but that still doesn't support your theory..now post a reputable source which proves AAs mixed with whites during any point in history on frequently enough and on such a scale significant affect our genes as a whole

Im not sure if you're serious Black people in the USA have always been aware of admx on the whole and never claimed to be "pure" african for that reason. The true rate of white american-black american mixing in the USA is hidden to this day because of the many "blacks" that passed into the white community and/or "isolate" groups.

wait a minute...you really post a racist blog comparing pure blacks to monkeys to prove a pointsomeone ban this Ayran pigfukker

GTFOH that post/article wasn't from a racist blog, that came straight from a book on Black consciousness/black indentity/black power in the USA. The guy who said that was an Afram in the 1800's that knew his people were mixed and to him, didn't adhere to the white conception of a "true negro".

 

[Yo Mama]

People seem to confuse complexion with "race".

You can be biracial with dark or light skin.

You can be any race with dark-light skin.

I'm not sure what this "pure African look" some people posted about. The diversity we have is...

In my family:
I am dark skinned. Both my parents are dark skinned. All my siblings are dark skinned.

My hubby is dark skinned but visibly shades lighter than me. His mother was very dark skinned, his father very light skinned. All his siblings but one is light skinned. All his siblings including the light skinned one have dark skinned kids.

Our two girls are several shades lighter than my hubby/me.

All these "dark skinned" family members are various shades of brown.

So some biracial look completely black and some look white. Or dark skin and straight hair, light skin and coily hair or any combination. But biracial nonetheless.

Where is the"percentage" cutoff point? I don't know. And it shouldnt matter. Unfotunatey in this evil world it still does.

We should keep in mind, biracials are not super/sub human, they are not hybrids or something else. They are human like everybody else. Same feelings as you and me.

So stop with the "mutt" comments.

Its evil and disrespectful. Shows what you really are.

 

[Sauanaffe Tustunnagee]

Im not sure if you're serious Black people in the USA have always been aware of admx on the whole and never claimed to be "pure" african for that reason. The true rate of white american-black american mixing in the USA is hidden to this day because of the many "blacks" that passed into the white community and/or "isolate" groups.



GTFOH that post/article wasn't from a racist blog, that came straight from a book on Black consciousness/black indentity/black power in the USA. The guy who said that was an Afram in the 1800's that knew his people were mixed and to him, didn't adhere to the white conception of a "true negro".

cleanly you aint AA Opey while many black Americans may not consider themselves African it's more so cultural reasons and the continent being alien to us but at the same time most AAs claim just/pure black ....the truth is Eurocentric pigskins and self loathing house slaves exaggerate the minor affect of admixing had on AAs


comparing blacks smile to apes is what was passing for black power/consciousness back in the 1800sthat shyt sounds like a page out the KKK bible...the only figure in the AA community i could think of pushing such anti blackness as pro blackis OG NAACP new blacks/mongrel house slaves like WEB Dubois whom pretended to advocate for AAs as a whole for their personal gain while begging massah to love and accept them

 

[iBrowse]

What if mulattos lovin the kid?

You practice juju so it doesn't count .

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Whether it be from rape AAs didnt mix much with white people. Any bit of white most of us have in us isnt close to half.

The true rate of white american-black american mixing in the USA is hidden to this day because of the many "blacks" that passed into the white community and/or "isolate" groups.

"This infiltration was common not just in Virginia but all over the United States. The most interesting document listed in the amicus briefs for Loving vs. Virginia is a statistical study called "African Ancestry of the White American Population" by Robert Stuckert, a sociologist and anthropologist from Ohio State University. Stuckert's statistical models are tough going, but eye-opening for what they show. Simply put, he examined census and fertility data to arrive at estimates of how many white Americans had African blood lines and how many fair-skinned blacks had crossed over the line to live as white. Stuckert's tables show that during the 1940s alone, roughly 15,550 fair-skinned blacks per year slipped across the color line--about 155,500 for the decade. Stuckert estimates that by 1950 about 21 percent of the whites--or about 28 million of the 135 million persons classified as "white" in the census--had black ancestry within the last four generations. He predicted that the proportion would only grow in the coming decades. The belief that one's ancestors are "racially uniform" is a basic American fiction, Stuckert wrote, but a fiction nonetheless."


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...ute/1999/10/the_real_american_love_story.html


and

Second, the Black and White groups are not symmetrical. The mean African admixture among White Americans is low—roughly 0.7 percent African and 99.3 percent European admixture.16 To put this in perspective, this would have been the result if every member of the U.S. White endogamous group alive today had a single ancestor of one hundred percent African genetic admixture seven generations ago (around the year 1850). Of course, African alleles are not distributed evenly. Seventy percent of White Americans (like 5.5 percent of Blacks) have no detectable African genetic admixture at all. Among the thirty percent of Whites with African genetic admixture, the admixture ratio averages to about 2.3 percent, the equivalent of having a single ancestor of one hundred percent African genetic admixture from around the year 1880.17 Black Americans, on the other hand, have significant European admixture (averaging about 75 percent African and 25 percent European).

About one-third of White Americans are of between two and twenty percent recent African genetic admixture, as measured by the ancestry-informative markers in their DNA.19 This comes to about 74 million Americans. And yet, day-to-day experience teaches that virtually all White Americans look, well, White. Some may look more Mediterranean and others may look more Nordic, but very few White Americans have a distinctively African appearance. How can one reconcile DNA measurements with common experience?An anecdote may help illustrate the problem. Look again at the chart of Skin Tone as Function of Afro-European Admixture. Consider one of the graph’s outlier points—a “European American” individual plotted as having 11 percent20 African genetic admixture. Dr. Shriver, the project team leader, became curious about this individual for two reasons. First, the person’s African genetic admixture was unusually high for someone who self-identified as a member of the U.S. White endogamous group. Second, the sample had been taken from State College, Pennsylvania, the site of Dr. Shriver’s own campus.21 According to Dr. Shriver:

I had the result for two or three years before I even looked up the ID number of the person whom we tested. I looked at who it was and it was me! I checked myself and the rest of my relatives and tracked it through my family. I never considered that there were any African people in my family. There’s no real variation in my family. The admixture must have been pretty far back. It just so happens that we can detect it with the markers we have. My mom especially stood out as being surprised, maybe because I told her it was coming through her father. She still doesn’t believe it about her family! The part of Pennsylvania where my mother’s father came from is where the Underground Railroad ended. There are several towns right here in Southern Pennsylvania where there are very light-skinned African-American communities that are the remnants of the Underground Railroad.22

It seems that Dr. Shriver’s maternal grandfather moved from Pennsylvania to Iowa, then to California, leaving behind in the process most of his ties with his relatives.23 Dr. Shriver, it turns out, (see photograph above) is one of the 74 million White Americans with significant recent African genetic admixture.In a coincidentally similar fashion, Dr. Rick Kittles, Shriver’s collaborator from Howard University in Washington, discovered that he carries the FY-null genetic marker at genome position 1q23.2. This marker is found in 998 out of every thousand Europeans but found in only one out of thousand Africans. Many of Dr. Kittles’s other ancestry-informative markers tell the same unexpected story. Dr. Kittles (see photograph above) is one of the many Black Americans with strong European genetic admixture. And yet, and there is no other way to say this, Dr. Shriver “looks White” and Dr. Kittles definitely “looks Black.”

Essays on the U.S. Color Line » Blog Archive » Afro-European Genetic Admixture in the United States

Most who had a kid with them ended up having their biraical child going with a black person thus bringing the liniage back to black.

not quite but not that far off

Not to mention thanks to segregation where mixing was illegal AAs didnt have much mass mixing with white people compared to Dominicans.

See above

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

If you have a parent that is not black, you are mixed. Black people have 2 black parents

 

[IllmaticDelta]

cleanly you aint AA Opey

while many black Americans may not consider themselves African it's more so cultural reasons and the continent being alien to us but at the same time most AAs claim just/pure black ....

Obviously Aframs consider themselves "Black" but they say this with an inclusive definition and not based on genetic "pureness"

the truth is Eurocentric pigskins and self loathing house slaves exaggerate the minor affect of admixing had on AAs

It's not Eurocentric to acknowledge admx but it is to feel that you're better than other's because of it

comparing blacks smile to apes is what was passing for black power/consciousness back in the 1800s

he wasn't comparing blacks to apes as much as we was comparing the stereotype white conceived of the "true negro" phenotype

that shyt sounds like a page out the KKK bible...the only figure in the AA community i could think of pushing such anti blackness as pro blackis OG NAACP new blacks/mongrel house slaves like WEB Dubois whom pretended to advocate for AAs as a whole for their personal gain while begging massah to love and accept them

 

[Blackout]

The true rate of white american-black american mixing in the USA is hidden to this day because of the many "blacks" that passed into the white community and/or "isolate" groups.

Its not that hidden when you know that segregation is blatant to this day.

When they slip into white communities they date white and their kids date white and so on. Segregation still happens to this day which this map will show you:
The Racial Dot Map: One Dot Per Person for the Entire U.S.

So Im not sure if you are agreeing with me or not but thanks to official segregation and unofficial segregation to this day black and white people did not mix enough for the lines to be blurred like the Dominicans.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Having a parent that is one race and another parent that is another race but only "identifying" with one side is stupid.

The US has never had a black president