Why do people try to say TLOU has shallow gameplay?

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Your comparison is wrong tho, you said that picking up another gun completely changes the gameplay dynamic of gears and that last of us doesn't have that.
This is true in my opinion. The different guns in gears make you play differently, and the enemies force you to use your guns and your allies in different ways.

You can literally approach any situation in a dozen different ways and the gameplay will change accordingly in last of us.
Check dishonored for the true meaning of this statement.
 

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The level design, weapon types, and enemy types force you to constantly adjust your strategy in gears of war. I don't get that same feeling from TLOU. It just feels like your going through the motions. And I know the bat breaks, by the point is, you'll pick the same bat up, stalk the same enemy, and bash him in the back of his head the same way.

No you don't. What you are saying is flat out not true. There's a difference in every weapon you get and each one requires a different strategy. And on top of the crafting weapons and health also adds depth to that strategy and so does upgrading your character.



I don't want it to be anything else. I said I prefer other types of games and I fully understand that some people don't.

:comeon:
But TLOU and other PS exclusives seem to be the only ones you have a problem with. When someone says Ryse is shallow you argue how it's not and really isn't that bad
 

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No you don't. What you are saying is flat out not true. There's a difference in every weapon you get and each one requires a different strategy. And on top of the crafting weapons and health also adds depth to that strategy and so does upgrading your character.
Not as much as other games in which I've already explained why.

:comeon:
But TLOU and other PS exclusives seem to be the only ones you have a problem with. When someone says Ryse is shallow you argue how it's not and really isn't that bad
I don't have a problem with anything. It seems that ps exclusives get highly over praised here while people go out of their way to bash Xbox games. Look how many threads we had trying to bash Xbox games. Look how many "ps exclsuisive" is the best game ever threads we have. I give my honest opinion in all of them. Ryse didn't deserve SOME of the hate it got, and TLOU is not the "best game ever" :heh:
 

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I don't have a problem with anything. It seems that ps exclusives get highly over praised here while people go out of their way to bash Xbox games. Look how many threads we had trying to bash Xbox games. Look how many "ps exclsuisive" is the best game ever threads we have. I give my honest opinion in all of them. Ryse didn't deserve SOME of the hate it got, and TLOU is not the "best game ever" :heh:

It's funny that you think this has everything to do with the platform the game is on, and not the game itself.

Sounds like every major publication outside of that one that you linked is in on the anti-XBOX conspiracy.

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Lets compare it to another game that lets you choose stealthy or action.

Dishonored. This game really lets you choose stealthy or action. Not only through your own actions, but through level design, upgrades, weapons, and even the story is impacted by your choices.
You keep saying story being impacted by your choices as some sort of requirement for a game to be good. I think that's an illusion of choice as the stories for those games are written with that in mind and each action you take simply triggers a predetermined response. You're not creating the story, you're just going down a flowchart that you don't visibly see.


)r lets compare it to another cinematic game with different weapons.

Gears of war. The weapon you have truly dictates your strategy, and different enemies and situations dictate which strategy you need to use.
:what: the hell is you talking about?? You can plow through gears of war SP with either a lancer, retro lancer or hammerburst. The enemies are mostly bullet sponges and don't really do much but shoot you back so what kind of strategy is needed?? We aren't talking about MP where the strategy pertains to weapon knowledge, map positioning and power weapon domination.
TLOU doesn't have this. You could literaly use the same bat throughout the entire game, and nothing would change.
No you can't, a bat can only last a few hits before it breaks. You don't even have access to a bat all throughout the game as weapons are scarce. Did you even play the shyt??
 

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Every one needs to keep in mind @MeachTheMonster considers Ni No Kuni GOTY 2013... A game with a shytty story.... shytty AND repetitive sidequests AND main missions AND its scripted, but its an "open world" pokemon game so its okay. Cant even make choices in the game, but gets nothing but praise from Meach... I remember him saying he even shed a tear while playing it :bryan:...

Take @MeachTheMonster opinion on games seriously brehs
 

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It's funny that you think this has everything to do with the platform the game is on, and not the game itself.

Sounds like every major publication outside of that one that you linked is in on the anti-XBOX conspiracy.

:rolleyes:
He mentioned the platform, so I gave my opinion on that point. And if you are trying to pretend that the platform of a game doesn't matter around here then you just aren't telling the truth. I've posted threads about plenty of games not exclusive to a platform and they all just die. Why is that?:popcorn:
 

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He mentioned the platform, so I gave my opinion on that point. And if you are trying to pretend that the platform of a game doesn't matter around here then you just aren't telling the truth. I've posted threads about plenty of games not exclusive to a platform and they all just die. Why is that?:popcorn:

Because unless you're a Call of Duty player (:gag:) the best games not named Mass Effect are exclusive.

Super Mario Galaxy
Uncharted 2
The Last of Us

etc...
 

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Not as much as other games in which I've already explained why.

More than Gears of War that's for sure


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don't have a problem with anything. It seems that ps exclusives get highly over praised here while people go out of their way to bash Xbox games. Look how many threads we had trying to bash Xbox games. Look how many "ps exclsuisive" is the best game ever threads we have. I give my honest opinion in all of them. Ryse didn't deserve SOME of the hate it got, and TLOU is not the "best game ever" :heh:

TO YOU. Many would disagree or at least acknowledge it's in the conversation
 

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You keep saying story being impacted by your choices as some sort of requirement for a game to be good. I think that's an illusion of choice as the stories for those games are written with that in mind and each action you take simply triggers a predetermined response. You're not creating the story, you're just going down a flowchart that you don't visibly see.
I never said it was a requirement for a game to be good. I said i enjoy games that do have some impact full choices more.

:what: the hell is you talking about?? You can plow through gears of war SP with either a lancer, retro lancer or hammerburst. The enemies are mostly bullet sponges and don't really do much but shoot you back so what kind of strategy is needed?? We aren't talking about MP where the strategy pertains to weapon knowledge, map positioning and power weapon domination.
Naw when the big dudes come, and another dude jumps on the stationary gun, then the wretches come from the side. You have to use all your weapons and all your different strategies to besuccessful.

No you can't, a bat can only last a few hits before it breaks. You don't even have access to a bat all throughout the game as weapons are scarce. Did you even play the shyt??

The bat and the next blunt object you pick up do the same damn shyt. They don't change how you approach the game, and they don't change which type of enemies you can/should engage.
 

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that opinion is based out of that guys ass. again you fail to provide your own for the subject matter at hand, thanks.
pretty sure he tried to do that and was shot down as being "facetitious and disingenuous"

might as well lock this thread too, because it's apparent no one wants to even attempt to have this conversation
 

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amazing AI graphics and story... but the gameplay to me was not that fun.
 

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pretty sure he tried to do that and was shot down as being "facetitious and disingenuous"

might as well lock this thread too, because it's apparent no one wants to even attempt to have this conversation
No he was not, stop it. Pick up items and proceed and watch scenes, really? Come on breh don't encourage ignorance. You haven't played the game either so please don't start this devil's advocate shtick you love to do.
 
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