Why do people hate Jay-z so much?

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You haven't insulted me one time but yet you said "I'm a bytchy defensive poster" then you say "take your hand off your hips and drop that bitxhy attitude man":skip: you making yourself look bad with your contradictions, and how am I being disingenuous cause I said he barely gets hate? Compare the love Jay gets to the hate and its not even close, I know people who don't even listen to rap but like Jay, due to his business ventures, him being cool with Oprah, Obama, and being married to Beyonce, every time he has an album coming out its an event. How am I downplaying though? Its not the truth? When people are at the top of their profession, its just inevitable for hate to come, I'll say it again, look at the top people in their profession, Bron is considered the king of bball now, and he has as much haters as fans, Kobe has as much haters as fans, Michael Jackson was getting as much hate like the love he gets, do I have to dumb myself down for you to get my point?
Again, 1st you attack then you try to play the victim. Thts that passive aggressive routine. I said that you're bytchy and defensive on the strength of you attacking me simply for asking a question. There is no contradiction because I didn't insult you. If I wanted to insult you I'd have just called you a bytch.

If you dumbed down anymore I wouldn't be able to understand you. You don't seem capable of posting in complete coherent sentences as it is. I get your "people on top get hate" point. I said that you're being disingenuous when you say that Jay Z is barely hated on. That's just not true. Just because he has a lot of fans doesn't mean that he barely has haters, that makes no sense. Jay Z has plenty of haters and the question is why? I initially quoted you because your first response didn't make any sense. People don't hate on Jay Z because of how some of his fans act, that's a silly nonsensical explanation. People hate on Jay Z mainly because of his success.
 

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Again, 1st you attack then you try to play the victim. Thts that passive aggressive routine. I said that you're bytchy and defensive on the strength of you attacking me simply for asking a question. There is no contradiction because I didn't insult you. If I wanted to insult you I'd have just called you a bytch.

If you dumbed down anymore I wouldn't be able to understand you. You don't seem capable of posting in complete coherent sentences as it is. I get your "people on top get hate" point. I said that you're being disingenuous when you say that Jay Z is barely hated on. That's just not true. Just because he has a lot of fans doesn't mean that he barely has haters, that makes no sense. Jay Z has plenty of haters and the question is why? I initially quoted you because your first response didn't make any sense. People don't hate on Jay Z because of his fans, that's a silly nonsensical explanation. People hate on Jay Z mainly because of his success.

How did I attack? and people hate on Jay because of his success is partially true, so how come I don't see people hating on Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, etc. They are successful, so since one is successful that means they should get hate on undefinable levels since they are more successful than Jay. Speak for yourself, where I'm at, Jay doesn't get that much hate, dude gets props all over, he gets way more love than he does hate. Selling out shows at crazy numbers during the WTT tour, chillin with Obama, Buffett, Oprah, being on number #1 on several peoples list, considered the most popular in rap right now. The hate will come, my post made sense, but since you thought I was attacking Jay:blink: you felt the need to get into your old sohh ways
 

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Simple, because he's the top dawg.

When you on top nikkas want you to be humble. Jay is on some "fukk all that"

But whats funny is he came in the game on that cocky shiit so I don't know why nikkas is actin brand new like he only just now started braggin.

Bottom line is Jay is the only rapper I know who told you exactly what he was planning to do on his very first album...and then did it exactly like he said he would.

:win:
 

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How did I attack? and people hate on Jay because of his success is partially true, so how come I don't see people hating on Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, etc. They are successful, so since one is successful that means they should get hate on undefinable levels since they are more successful than Jay.
Silly analogy which does nothing to refute the idea that Jay Z's success is the main source of the hate.

Speak for yourself, where I'm at, Jay doesn't get that much hate, dude gets props all over, he gets way more love than he does hate. Selling out shows at crazy numbers during the WTT tour, chillin with Obama, Buffett, Oprah, being on number #1 on several peoples list, considered the most popular in rap right now. The hate will come, my post made sense, but since you thought I was attacking Jay:blink: you felt the need to get into your old sohh ways
I always speak for myself, who else do you think that I'm speaking for? What do you mean he doesn't get much hate where you're at? You're on the Internet just like I am. You keep trying to cloud the issue and make this about how much love he gets in comparison to the hate when that's not what the thread is about. It's ironic that you tried to accuse me of derailing the thread. Go back and read the op, this thread is asking why do some people hate on him so much. Stop talking about how much love he gets as if the amount of love he gets justifies the hate. Your post made no sense. You have another posters meat on the brain and you can't think straight.
 

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Bottom line is, Jay is the only rapper I know who old you exactly what he was planning to do...and then did it exactly like he said he would.

:win:

really Jay-Z is the only successful rapper? Curtis Ratson didn't accomplish just as much in a shorter period of time? Birdman ain't stunting on nikkas? Baby don't have the nonly hip hop label that moves actual units? What is Jay doing that makes him different? He smiling and schucking and jiving for corporate whites? I thought he was gonna remain hood and make them embrace it? Instead he embraced their snootiness.
 

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Silly analogy which does nothing to refute the idea that Jay Z's success is the main source of the hate.

Speak for yourself, where I'm at, Jay doesn't get that much hate, dude gets props all over, he gets way more love than he does hate. Selling out shows at crazy numbers during the WTT tour, chillin with Obama, Buffett, Oprah, being on number #1 on several peoples list, considered the most popular in rap right now. The hate will come, my post made sense, but since you thought I was attacking Jay:blink: you felt the need to get into your old sohh ways
I always speak for myself, who else do you think that I'm speaking for? What do you mean he doesn't get much hate where you're at? You're on the Internet just like I am. You keep trying to cloud the issue and make this about how much love he gets in comparison to the hate when that's not what the thread is about. It's ironic that you tried to accuse me of derailing the thread. Go back and read the op, this thread is asking why do some people hate on him so much. Stop talking about how much love he gets as if the amount of love he gets justifies the hate.[/QUOTE]

How is it silly? You said he gets hate for being successful(your logic). So how come people more successful, Gates, Buffett don't get the same hate, just using your logic, so why not attack everyone for saying Jay gets love in this thread, I'm not the only one that has said he gets ton of love but you empathize on my post:aicmon: Let me say it for you one more time, since you just don't understand, Jay gets hate, but it comes with the territory since he is the biggest rapper in the game now, it just comes with it. Why can't you comprehend that?
 

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I don't hate him, I'm a fan, offline most people I know don't hate him, a few, some aren't that big fans, some are huge fans, varies.
 

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really Jay-Z is the only successful rapper? Curtis Ratson didn't accomplish just as much in a shorter period of time? Birdman ain't stunting on nikkas? Baby don't have the nonly hip hop label that moves actual units? What is Jay doing that makes him different? He smiling and schucking and jiving for corporate whites? I thought he was gonna remain hood and make them embrace it? Instead he embraced their snootiness.

I didn't say that, I said he planned out what he was gonna do and he did it. He didn't really come into the game sayin he was already a boss, he came in sayin one day he was gonna BE a boss.

All these other cats are "bosses" off jump apparently. Ross, Baby...fukking Game.

The only cat that came close was 50.
 

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How is it silly? You said he gets hate for being successful(your logic). So how come people more successful, Gates, Buffett don't get the same hate, just using your logic, so why not attack everyone for saying Jay gets love in this thread, I'm not the only one that has said he gets ton of love but you empathize on my post:aicmon: Let me say it for you one more time, since you just don't understand, Jay gets hate, but it comes with the territory since he is the biggest rapper in the game now, it just comes with it. Why can't you comprehend that?
I'm starting to think that you're mentally slow. On one hand you agree that Jay Z gets hated on because he's successful(it comes with the territory), but on the other hand you seem to be challenging that opinion by bringing up Buffet ad Gates. Which is it? Do you agree that Jay Z gets hate because he's successful or dont you? The clear difference between Jay Z and those guys is that Jay Z is a black man from the urban community. Unfortunately the hater or crab in the barrel mentality is a lot more prevalent in our community than it is in the white community. Jay Z is also an entertainer while those other 2 guys aren't. How many "fans" do Buffet or Gates have? Those guys aren't really public figures, paparazzi doesn't follow them.

We understand that hate comes with the territory when you reach the top when you're black, the question is why? Why should a black person have to deal with automatic hate from a section of their own community when they reach the top?
 

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How is it silly? You said he gets hate for being successful(your logic). So how come people more successful, Gates, Buffett don't get the same hate, just using your logic, so why not attack everyone for saying Jay gets love in this thread, I'm not the only one that has said he gets ton of love but you empathize on my post:aicmon: Let me say it for you one more time, since you just don't understand, Jay gets hate, but it comes with the territory since he is the biggest rapper in the game now, it just comes with it. Why can't you comprehend that?
I'm starting to think that you're mentally slow. On one hand you agree that Jay Z gets hated on because he's successful(it comes with the territory), but on the other hand you seem to be challenging that opinion by bringing up Buffet ad Gates. Which is it? Do you agree that Jay Z gets hate because he's successful or dont you? The clear difference between Jay Z and those guys is that Jay Z is a black man from the urban community. Unfortunately the hater or crab in the barrel mentality is a lot more prevalent in our community than it is in the white community. Jay Z is also an entertainer while those other 2 guys aren't. How many "fans" do Buffet or Gates have? Those guys aren't really public figures, paparazzi doesn't follow them.

We understand that hate comes with the territory when you reach the top when you're black, the question is why? Why should a black person have to deal with automatic hate from a section of their own community when they reach the top?[/QUOTE]

So you just going to throw race into it? hate comes no matter what race you are, now you just trying to look for an argument:snoop: I'm just using your logic, you say Jay gets hate because he is successful, so I bring up people more successful. No matter how much sense I make you'll just try to spin it to something else, whats next, Jay gets hate because he is the most successful from Brooklyn? You're starting to reach heavy now
 

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Because hes the GOAT... any other reason is illogical and irrelevant
 

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So you just going to throw race into it? hate comes no matter what race you are, now you just trying to look for an argument:snoop: I'm just using your logic, you say Jay gets hate because he is successful, so I bring up people more successful. No matter how much sense I make you'll just try to spin it to something else, whats next, Jay gets hate because he is the most successful from Brooklyn? You're starting to reach heavy now
So there's no difference between being a black man and being a white man? The idea that Jay Z's success is the main motivation of his haters is foreign now? Haters will come out and tell you that they hate because they feel as if he has been put on a pedestal that he doesn't deserve. What happened to that "it comes with the territory" stuff you were talking earlier because that's what I'm basically saying. This thread is asking why does it come with the territory. My posts have nothing to do with reaching, you're just having trouble comprehending.
 

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in what way is he the goat?

most consistent discography of all time, was able to dominate the mainstream and keep it 100% hiphop at the same, GOAT wordplay, top 5 technical rapper, and will kill your favorite rapper on a track at any given moment... only person close is pac

the same reason you see the greatest in other niches get hate is the reason why jay gets the same unwarranted hate... because hes the GOAT
 

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I like Hov musically but as a person he can suck a fukking dikk, he's a complete a$$hole in everything he does. From being a former crack dealer, to fukking Beyonce, to now being 40 years old and still doing that annoying ass, 'young hova' ass voice or maybe it's because he's said every single album from like 2003 onwards was his last. Don't even get me started on how he's rode every large producers wave to stay relevant from The Neptunes, to Just Blaze, to Kanye etc. etc. Some may call me bitter but it's not about the vast amount of riches he has, Dr. Dre and 50 Cent are fukking ballers and none of them even come close to comparing in being complete dikkheads to Jigga and these dudes are a$$holes themselves!

The real question is how can any body like this dude? He's a snake, he makes good music but he's a fukking Jew cock sucking bytch.
 
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