Why didnt San Fran draft Aaron Rodgers in 2005?

[#1 pick]

obviously hes improved, hes arguably the best qb in the league...as opposed to just one of the pretty good qbs in college.

Ive watched cal football for years now, and his mechanics wasnt all that different from him holding the ball high close to shoulder and because of that he was coming off snaps weirdly. it was like one thing that looked weird and he corrected it.

otherwise his mechanics werent all that fukked up.

He had a great situation. Had weapons, and able to learn behind and a great coaching staff. The year before he started, they went to the NFCCG and was an INT away from the Super Bowl.

49ers was a terrible situation when he came out the draft. No weapons. Terrible OL. Average coaching. Most QB's can't survive that.

 

[Bboystyle]

While i do agree Rodgers has gotten better with time,there's somethings that are uncoachable like accuracy,mobility,able to throw on the run,and reading D's and audible at the line. I think every player gets better with time. Rodgers only took 3 years to become a beast. I think it'd be dumb to say he wouldnt be who he is today had he gone to San Fran

 

[Lee_Land]

at me criticizing a draft selection when the Vikings took Troy Williamson at number 9 that year

That Top 10 is easily one of the Woats.
Alex Smith
Ronnie Brown
Braylon Edwards
Cedric Benson
Cadillac Williams
Pacman Jones
Antrell Rolle
Troy Williamson
Carlos Rogers
Mike Williams

 

[#1 pick]

While i do agree Rodgers has gotten better with time,there's somethings that are uncoachable like accuracy,mobility,able to throw on the run,and reading D's and audible at the line. I think every player gets better with time. Rodgers only took 3 years to become a beast. I think it'd be dumb to say he wouldnt be who he is today had he gone to San Fran

Five years and there was a great chance it wouldn't have happened in SF. Even Brady said, you put him at Zona at the time he came out can could have been a bust. Situations and systems matter. Ask VY.

 

[the next guy]

Kolb sat for years too. I think sitting is overrated. No amount of sitting prepares you for the game. Yes, it helps you familiarize yourself with the offense but beign familliar with an offense doesn't make you a good QB.

If Carr, Jamarcus, Smith, etc sit behind Favre for 3 years, do they even come close to what Rodgers has done? I don't think so. Dude is just beastly, period.

For the record I didn't know enough about Rodgers when he was drafted to have much of an opinion...but I deff did not want Smith. There are posts on when he was drafted where I was I still gave him a shot and thought he might even be competent when he came in for Hill and started balling with VD....but that was short lived.

I sort of agree. I do think Favre did help him somewhat, even if it was just watching. But Rodgers was better then any of those guys. I was a smith supporter but that is gone now.

 

[#1 pick]

obviously hes improved, hes arguably the best qb in the league...as opposed to just one of the pretty good qbs in college.

Ive watched cal football for years now, and his mechanics wasnt all that different from him holding the ball high close to shoulder and because of that he was coming off snaps weirdly. it was like one thing that looked weird and he corrected it.

otherwise his mechanics werent all that fukked up.

Naw, his mechanics was pretty sh**ty. Look at his low 3rd, head, and his footwork in college. He greatly improved. He always had great talent. Everyone knew that but so did JaMarcus Russell. If you have critical flaws, you can fail early and fast.

 

[#1 pick]

Carr or JaMarcus could have been elite. Smith, No. He was never that talented but he never played in his system out of college either and he never had offensive minded HC's. Carr and JaMarcus went first for a reason.

 

[Brady-Carter]

While i do agree Rodgers has gotten better with time,there's somethings that are uncoachable like accuracy,mobility,able to throw on the run,and reading D's and audible at the line. I think every player gets better with time. Rodgers only took 3 years to become a beast. I think it'd be dumb to say he wouldnt be who he is today had he gone to San Fran

Not that I disagree with the premise of your post. But re the bolded, all those are coachable for the most part ..

I think it is more the drive to be the best. A mindset more then anything. Like Brady with Drew. I think Rodgers thought he was a better QB then Favre. And kept honing is craft to be better. Then like Brady, Rodgers tries to prove he is better then his predecessor every snap.

If that makes sense..

 

[Bboystyle]

Five years and there was a great chance it wouldn't have happened in SF. Even Brady said, you put him at Zona at the time he came out can could have been a bust. Situations and systems matter. Ask VY.

It took him 3 years breh. Look at his 2008 and 2009 numbers. look at his playoff loss in 2010. He exceeded my and many expectations when he started. You acting like he barely started beasting.

 

[Bboystyle]

Not that I disagree with the premise of your post. But re the bolded, all those are coachable ..

I think it is more the drive to be the best. A mindset more then anything. Like Brady with Drew. I think Rodgers thought he was a better QB then Favre. And kept honing is craft to be better. Then like Brady, Rodgers tries to prove he his better then his predecessor every snap.

If that makes sense..

How do you teach mobility and accuracy? Those things come with you naturally. Technically u can teach a QB to read D's so ill give u that. But there's no way u can teach mobility or accuracy

 

[Bboystyle]

double post

 

[Brady-Carter]

How do you teach mobility and accuracy or how well a QB reads a D? Those things come with you naturally. Technically u can teach a QB to read D's so ill give u that. But there's no way u can teach mobility or accuracy

So QB's just magically know how to throw the ball, and know when to roll out the pocket?

Bra, calm down. I am just saying those things are coachable. Mechanics and situations. But mind set is not(intuition/Instincts).

Re read my post, I agree with what you're saying. But there is something special that separates the ARod's and the Brady's from other QB's. And being accurate and able to run does not do them justice. That is all.

 

[Bboystyle]

So QB's just magically know how to throw the ball, and know when to roll out the pocket?

Bra, calm down. I am just saying those things are coachable. Mechanics and situations. But mind set is not(intuition/Instincts).

Re read my post, I agree with what you're saying. But there is something special that separates the ARod's and the Brady's from other QB's. And being accurate and able to run does not do them justice. That is all.

90% of the league knows how to throw a ball. That doesnt mean its gonna be accurate. How u gonna teach a QB to fit balls in tight areas? u cant. Matter of fact they teach you NOT to throw in those areas. lol

And mobility depends on your athleticism. Yeah they tell u to run out the pocket but that doesnt mean its gonna be successful

Calm down? im having a convo here with you,not arguing or typing mad breh

 

[yseJ]

Naw, his mechanics was pretty sh**ty. Look at his low 3rd, head, and his footwork in college. He greatly improved. He always had great talent. Everyone knew that but so did JaMarcus Russell. If you have critical flaws, you can fail early and fast.

jawalrus never had the talent rodgers had...he just had physical talent. shot up draft charts because LSU had a damn strong year. bowe was beasting for them

rodgers fell on other hand. he was considered one of the best prospects but teams soured on him at the end. he was looking mighty salty when packers finally drafted him

again, his mechanics were just fine besides one random thing. sitting and learning obviously helped but lets not act like if he didnt change his mechanics hed be a wothless bum or something

 

[#1 pick]

jawalrus never had the talent rodgers had...he just had physical talent. shot up draft charts because LSU had a damn strong year. bowe was beasting for them

rodgers fell on other hand. he was considered one of the best prospects but teams soured on him at the end. he was looking mighty salty when packers finally drafted him

again, his mechanics were just fine besides one random thing. sitting and learning obviously helped but lets not act like if he didnt change his mechanics hed be a wothless bum or something

Both of them had the physical talent and rely on it too much. Both didn't have to read defenses or make pre snap reads in college in their systems. Rodgers was stubborn in college and Russell was lazy. Who knows what JaMarcus would have been in a less toxic situation.

You are underestimating JaMarcus based on what we seen in the NFL when he wasn't in the right situation to being with. Monday scouts are the only thing I hate more than Monday QB's.