Why are black people in south/Latin America completely missing from their society's public sphere?

[ChatGPT-5]

I dont eve know what his point is, I can see your point is to show they do have presence. Which I know that also

but what exactly is his point? Ok the U.S has more blacks on tv and Brasil is racist, what's that got to do with anything? Thats not what this thread is about.

 

[Birnin Zana]

This thread got way off topic, damn.

 

[PikaDaDon]

I'm going to have to stay in the US a little while longer to get my money up. Then I'll move to South America. I'd rather live like a king in a 3rd world country than be a middle class (or upper middle class) 2nd class citizen treated as a social pariah (especially by law enforcement).

 

[PikaDaDon]

 

[Primordial]

I dont eve know what his point is, I can see your point is to show they do have presence. Which I know that also

but what exactly is his point? Ok the U.S has more blacks on tv and Brasil is racist, what's that got to do with anything? Thats not what this thread is about.

whole thread is

they caping for nikkas that dont want even want to be caped. what part of nationality comes before ethnicity/whatever these nikkas callin themselves in these countries that they don't get? its literally too hard for these coli militants to comprehend that even in majority-black nations in the caribbean, there are complex racial constructs that divides nikkas into 10+ different categories, but they will identify themselves first and foremost by the country that raised them

and ppl really comparing the socio-economic issues of still developing latin american nations to a global super power



nikkas really think there is any type of comparison between Brazil (or any latin american country) and the U.S. just cuz wikipedia says so

 

[Tommy Knocks]

I dont eve know what his point is, I can see your point is to show they do have presence. Which I know that also

but what exactly is his point? Ok the U.S has more blacks on tv and Brasil is racist, what's that got to do with anything? Thats not what this thread is about.

on top of that the term "brazil is racist" is simply absurd. That's why I posted that french dudes quote. No country is racist, there are racists IN countries (all countries) and there are discriminatory factors to keep one group over another, which is a human trait, I want my group to be in the lead over your group ei natural competition, but name ONE non-homogenous country that doesn't have that. Whether it be racial, tribal, religious, there's ALWAYS some form of discriminatory elements in all society. Heck, there's some in Japan, and no its not toward blacks, its toward chinese, people of the same race, but historically they're enemies so they make sure to keep the chinese under them. vice verse in china. Its just life. You can go to India, and Hindus will discriminate against the muslims, go to america, whites discriminate against blacks. Go to Brazil, and the same applies. But Black Militants do nothing more than go around calling a bunch of countries they've never step foot in racist. shyt is so stupid on so many levels.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

From a French black man.

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Black Americans so often want to impose their limited idea of 'blackness' on everyone, going about the world looking for racism. "Is this place racist, is that place racist?" Places aren't racist. People are & no group of people represent the entire country. Racism is just discrimination. One type of discrimination is no more worse than the other. Everyone faces some sort of discrimination everywhere. If a white guy is told, 'Go away, Gringo,' he's not gonna let that guy (or a handful of guys) represent the entire country. Folks were doing 'Kick a ginger' in The States a few years ago. So, the whole idea of, "Is a country racist?" is juvenile & racist. It's just looking for problems. Black Americans should stop assuming all blacks are alike or have the same experiences. I think a lot of black Americans are scared to travel because they listen to things like this. When I travel, folks tend to respond to me as an individual, based on my dress, accent, presentation, nationality. In the end, there is no singular experience that blacks have in Paris. Don't listen to any body tells you about what it's like to be black here or there. They only know what it's like to be them.
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and just about every single black person that has traveled abroad will echo this notion.

Let me just go ahead and rewind this again.

 

[theworldismine13]

I dont eve know what his point is, I can see your point is to show they do have presence. Which I know that also

but what exactly is his point? Ok the U.S has more blacks on tv and Brasil is racist, what's that got to do with anything? Thats not what this thread is about.

What do you mean that isn't what the thread is about? Did you read the the thread title? The op wanted know why there is no black presence in Latin media

You guys retorted that there is SOME black presence

But that still leaves there question as to why Latin America, especially counties like Brazil and Columbia that have more black people than the United States have less of a black public presence than the us?

 

[theworldismine13]

whole thread is

they caping for nikkas that dont want even want to be caped. what part of nationality comes before ethnicity/whatever these nikkas callin themselves in these countries that they don't get? its literally too hard for these coli militants to comprehend that even in majority-black nations in the caribbean, there are complex racial constructs that divides nikkas into 10+ different categories, but they will identify themselves first and foremost by the country that raised them

and ppl really comparing the socio-economic issues of still developing latin american nations to a global super power



nikkas really think there is any type of comparison between Brazil (or any latin american country) and the U.S. just cuz wikipedia says so

This is an incoherent argument, you get mad at me for suggesting Brazil is behind the us

Then you guys write essays on why it's behind

Your explanation doesn't change the fact that Brazil is behind, you can make up whatever complex explanation you want but you just admitted that Brazil is behind if you have to cop pleas

Why the fuk wouldn't I compare the racial issues in a still developing country to the us? I have no idea why I wouldn't make the comparison, that is the whole purpose of this thread, and it's a very important comparison to make because basically all countries in the Western Hemisphere have in common the fact that they are made up of native Americans, European settlers and African slaves, but with different ratios

It is imperative that we compare these countries if you want to explore the history of black people in the Americas, comparing the black experience in Brazil and the us is a completely valid comparison

 

[ChatGPT-5]

What do you mean that isn't what the thread is about? Did you read the the thread title? The op wanted know why there is no black presence in Latin media

You guys retorted that there is SOME black presence

But that still leaves there question as to why Latin America, especially counties like Brazil and Columbia that have more black people than the United States have less of a black public presence than the us?

You're complicating the things. The thread title is asking why there are COMPLETELY missing. More than a few actors and movies were dropped to counter the argument with a simple. No they aren't. Thread ends there.

The amount, or percentage, or comparison to the U.S is null and void reaching. Is there a presence, simple answer is yes, and not just slave and maid movies. I've seen Brasilian magazines in Angola with all black brasilian models. I forget the name since I don't speak portuguese but it would be like you americans King Magazine.

And talking about they are behind the U.S while they had things like military dictatorships, and your country is the biggest democratic country in the world, only further displays your ignorance toward the world.

You americans are very arrogant, and should do less talking about your country and more understanding about other peoples country, history and social complexities.

 

[theworldismine13]

You're complicating the things. The thread title is asking why there are COMPLETELY missing. More than a few actors and movies were dropped to counter the argument with a simple. No they aren't. Thread ends there.

The amount, or percentage, or comparison to the U.S is null and void reaching. Is there a presence, simple answer is yes, and not just slave and maid movies. I've seen Brasilian magazines in Angola with all black brasilian models. I forget the name since I don't speak portuguese but it would be like you americans King Magazine.

Why is the percentage null and void? Becuase it's inconvenient?

I'm completely dumbfounded that any black person would actually use a tokenism argument with a straighface to downplay the fact that racism in Brazil is equal or worse than the us

 

[theworldismine13]

on top of that the term "brazil is racist" is simply absurd. That's why I posted that french dudes quote. No country is racist, there are racists IN countries (all countries) and there are discriminatory factors to keep one group over another, which is a human trait, I want my group to be in the lead over your group ei natural competition, but name ONE non-homogenous country that doesn't have that. Whether it be racial, tribal, religious, there's ALWAYS some form of discriminatory elements in all society. Heck, there's some in Japan, and no its not toward blacks, its toward chinese, people of the same race, but historically they're enemies so they make sure to keep the chinese under them. vice verse in china. Its just life. You can go to India, and Hindus will discriminate against the muslims, go to america, whites discriminate against blacks. Go to Brazil, and the same applies. But Black Militants do nothing more than go around calling a bunch of countries they've never step foot in racist. shyt is so stupid on so many levels.

That's a totally valid point of view, I would not go along with the pov but I f that is the way you want to view racism that's your right, I think the only issue with your school of thought is that for it to be intellectually consistent then the United States is not racist either, which some people would quibble with

If you are saying that Brazil isn't racist and neither is the United States then I would take back what I said about your argument being incoherent

 

[loyola llothta]

Why would we give fuk about french man thoughts wait..... I mean a "black" french man thoughts

 

[Prince Akeem]

on top of that the term "brazil is racist" is simply absurd. That's why I posted that french dudes quote. No country is racist, there are racists IN countries (all countries) and there are discriminatory factors to keep one group over another, which is a human trait, I want my group to be in the lead over your group ei natural competition, but name ONE non-homogenous country that doesn't have that. Whether it be racial, tribal, religious, there's ALWAYS some form of discriminatory elements in all society. Heck, there's some in Japan, and no its not toward blacks, its toward chinese, people of the same race, but historically they're enemies so they make sure to keep the chinese under them. vice verse in china. Its just life. You can go to India, and Hindus will discriminate against the muslims, go to america, whites discriminate against blacks. Go to Brazil, and the same applies. But Black Militants do nothing more than go around calling a bunch of countries they've never step foot in racist. shyt is so stupid on so many levels.

So you were arguing with theworldismine13 the whole time? Figures.

I have him on ignore so I had no clue who you was going back and forth with...Now it makes sense.

 

[Primordial]

This is an incoherent argument, you get mad at me for suggesting Brazil is behind the us

Then you guys write essays on why it's behind

Your explanation doesn't change the fact that Brazil is behind, you can make up whatever complex explanation you want but you just admitted that Brazil is behind if you have to cop pleas

Why the fuk wouldn't I compare the racial issues in a still developing country to the us? I have no idea why I wouldn't make the comparison, that is the whole purpose of this thread, and it's a very important comparison to make because basically all countries in the Western Hemisphere have in common the fact that they are made up of native Americans, European settlers and African slaves, but with different ratios

It is imperative that we compare these countries if you want to explore the history of black people in the Americas, comparing the black experience in Brazil and the us is a completely valid comparison

Who doesn't realize that Brazil is behind on any issue when it comes to the U.S.? It's the United States of America

And no the commonalities based within your premise are oversimplified.

- The situation with the natives is completely different than the U.S. seeing that they form a significant part of the population and are a significant factor at least politically in the majority of Latin America (and some even still retained their culture untouched from modern civilization unlike what's left of the native tribes in the U.S.)

- The slaves that came to the U.S. were mainly from modern-day Nigeria,Ghana, Benin, while the slaves in Brazil were mainly from Congo, Angola, Mozambique (aka different cultures, peoples and customs with different identities and responses to slavery)

-And just like the African slaves weren't all part of one monolithic group, the same applies for the European settlers. U know already about the first European settlers to the U.S. and how they helped influence the path of this great nation. On the other hand, Brazil was a Portuguese colony with a similar colonial style to Spain and most of the rest of Latin America were colonized by the Spanish whose colonial influences have a direct influence in the way they conduct themselves politically (Most latin american strongmen and dictators are just modern-day Caudillos from the colonial era). I'm not even gonna get into their racial caste system that is the root of their racial issues

But I digress.....my main point in my "incoherent argument" is that you can compare Brazil to the other former colonies of Portugal and Spain and get a quicker answer to whatever you're trying to figure out than attempting to compare it to the U.S.