Why are black people in Canada so weird?

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

African americans are the most influential in the world and that's a fact.

That's actually not a fact. But Jamaicans are factually as per population are. Numbers don't lie

y'all just see what you want to see

Jamaicans been influencing slang music and even diets worldwide long before nikkaz got hip to it. Having people that talk like them, dress like them, eat like them and smoke like them long before you had a clue. I can say this confidently as an African. I have no horse in this race. MY point is Americans like the one that made this thread and his cosigners don't live in reality. Everyone who isn't them is "weird" "corny" etc.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

That's actually not a fact. But Jamaicans are factually as per population are. Numbers don't lie

y'all just see what you want to see

Jamaicans been influencing slang music and even diets worldwide long before nikkaz got hip to it. Having people that talk like them, dress like them, eat like them and smoke like them long before you had a clue. I can say this confidently as an African. I have no horse in this race. MY point is Americans like the one that made this thread and his cosigners don't live in reality. Everyone who isn't them is "weird" "corny" etc.

1.Op is an WEST AFRICAN from the UK
2.Popular Jamaican music has 3 Afram Main ingredients (Jazz x R&B x Rock). Without those 3 there would be no ska...or reggae...or dancehall. We've already disproved the commonly accepted "Jamaican Hybrid music" theory for hip hop. MULTIPLE TIMES.
3.I live here. I'm in Montreal, I was in Toronto. Jamaican-ness is tenuous compared to EVERYBODY UNDER 41 BEING DRESSED LIKE SOME TYPE OF YOUNG BLACK AMERICAN. Same in Halifax...Same in small town Truro...same in small town Brockville...3/5 of y'all major cities are literal clone factories, my nikka. I'm all up through here bro, my people are the prototype, my g.
4.It's like this in the world bro: They have REGGAE NIGHTS...they have lil reggae interest. There's a TINY japanese reggae subculture. Guess what tho? All those people have HUGE HIP HOP SCENES. The only HUGE REGGAE SCENE outside of the caribbean is in HAWAII (some more of my ancestors). I've lived in NYC, Stuttgart, Baltimore, DC, Columbus, Toronto, Montreal, Halifax, San Antonio, New Orleans, ROCHESTER...Guess what they all have in common: THEY LOVE HIP HOP....A popular AMERICAN HIP HOP ACT comes through? It's selling out among everybody. A reggae legend comes through? He MIGHT do numbers...but nothing like a POPULAR HIP HOP OR R&B ACT.
Hip Hop shows outsell and outperform Dancehall shows in cities with LARGE CARIBBEAN POPULATIONS...and two of these cities have NO Afram Presence.
So wtf you talking about my g?

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

So none of y'all decided to get at U.K. brehs huh?

Nope, Canadians have a natural tendency to mentally bow down to UK people on the low. Even in real life.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Relative to size of population. Jamaicans are the most influential people in the world. That's just facts. I'm not Jamaica either...

There was a dancehall subculture in Japan before Korea caught on to ripping black music etc. Bob Marley is as big as Michael Jackson if not bigger in some place. Reggae music touched the whole world as well.

Y'all can actually give others props sometimes

You're a Somali from Toronto and Jamaicans are the biggest black population in Toronto...there are also more rappers and R&B artists than reggae artists coming out of Toronto despite there NOT being an AA presence in the city.
AAs DID have a historic neighborhood in Montreal before the first African or Islander had the idea of stepping foot up here but everything got broke up in the 50s...It was Jazzy spot called Little Burgundy in Montreal. Montreal is known for Jazz for THAT REASON. Guess who lives in Little Burgundy now? Black people...getting gentrified. Of course these folks aren't aware of the history. They came from one place and will be moved to another like usual.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

1.Op is an WEST AFRICAN from the UK
2.Popular Jamaican music has 3 Afram Main ingredients (Jazz x R&B x Rock). Without those 3 there would be no ska...or reggae...or dancehall. We've already disproved the commonly accepted "Jamaican Hybrid music" theory for hip hop. MULTIPLE TIMES.
3.I live here. I'm in Montreal, I was in Toronto. Jamaican-ness is tenuous compared to EVERYBODY UNDER 41 BEING DRESSED LIKE SOME TYPE OF YOUNG BLACK AMERICAN. Same in Halifax...Same in small town Truro...same in small town Brockville...3/5 of y'all major cities are literal clone factories, my nikka. I'm all up through here bro, my people are the prototype, my g.
4.It's like this in the world bro: They have REGGAE NIGHTS...they have lil reggae interest. There's a TINY japanese reggae subculture. Guess what tho? All those people have HUGE HIP HOP SCENES. The only HUGE REGGAE SCENE outside of the caribbean is in HAWAII (some more of my ancestors). I've lived in NYC, Stuttgart, Baltimore, DC, Columbus, Toronto, Montreal, Halifax, San Antonio, New Orleans, ROCHESTER...Guess what they all have in common: THEY LOVE HIP HOP....A popular AMERICAN HIP HOP ACT comes through? It's selling out among everybody. A reggae legend comes through? He MIGHT do numbers...but nothing like a POPULAR HIP HOP OR R&B ACT.
Hip Hop shows outsell and outperform Dancehall shows in cities with LARGE CARIBBEAN POPULATIONS...and two of these cities have NO Afram Presence.
So wtf you talking about my g?

If your gonna go that far then Afram music has roots elsewhere as well from the motherland.

Jamaicaness might tired to you but it's vibrant in a lot of places.

This isn't 10 years ago. Black people don't dress regionally exclusive. Matter fact most young people all dress the same now no matter race. This isn't the baggy clothes. Thugger out era where fits were distinctive and brands urban.

I specifically said dancehall paralleled hip hop to avoid the argument of who came first but dancehall ran the world long before hip hop bridged that gap. Ask any Black person not from America. Event today a lot of contemporary African music has west African influence.

Let's not even talk about y'all nikkaz jacking their hair styles.

Notice Jamaicans dressed like most young boys do now with the skinny fits like the Migos long before it was trendy. They been on that since the shower posse days.

Hip hop is having its moment right now. Dancehall already did decades ago. That's what I'm talking about.

There is nothing you brehs say that can't be countered.

It's really ok to give others props sometimes.

If OP is from the UK he even more goofy for making this thread. The yardies set the tone for Black culture out there.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

If your gonna go that far then Afram music has roots elsewhere as well from the motherland.

Jamaicaness might tired to you but it's vibrant in a lot of places.

This isn't 10 years ago. Black people don't dress regionally exclusive. Matter fact most young people all dress the same now no matter race. This isn't the baggy clothes. Thugger out era where fits were distinctive and brands urban.

I specifically said dancehall paralleled hip hop to avoid the argument of who came first but dancehall ran the world long before hip hop bridged that gap. Ask any Black person not from America. Event today a lot of contemporary African music has west African influence.

Let's not even talk about y'all nikkaz jacking their hair styles.

Notice Jamaicans dressed like most young boys do now with the skinny fits like the Migos long before it was trendy. They been on that since the shower posse days.

Hip hop is having its moment right now. Dancehall already did decades ago. That's what I'm talking about.

There is nothing you brehs say that can't be countered.

It's really ok to give others props sometimes.

If OP is from the UK he even more goofy for making this thread. The yardies set the tone for Black culture out there.

1.We talking about RECENT TIMES aka within the past 40-70 years. Reggae is a hybrid of Afram music and Afram music sets the tone and bpm 90% of the time. We make modern music mutate.
2.They started "RAP-TOASTING" because of us....and the first "count machuki" version of Toasting was gleaned from Afram Jive Radio DJS...that's why the rappers are still called DEEJAYS to this day. We started the root and the split, fammo. "Here comes the judge" (1969) predates the first dancehall song (1982) and the first COMMERCIAL rap song (1979) came in between both dates. Sorry breh, no compromise.
3.Hip Hop has been around for 40+ years. That's not a moment.
4.Jamaicans dressed like Migos w/ the skinny fits....ERRRRRRRRRRRT...My g? Kool Moe Dee? 80s rappers? 80s Drug dealers didn't wear those clothes? Sorry again, fam. Oh, and the migos are wearing slimmed down euro gear. That's some shyt DC brehs have been doing since the 80s UNINTERRUPTED.
5.Stealing hairstyles? Single braids naturally lock up and that's exactly where that came from on our end. nikkas was not fukking with jakes like that bro. WHITE PEOPLE got that from jamaicans. Braiding/Plaiting hair is something we retained.
6.Dancehall didn't run any world at any time, ever. It was born in 1982. Music sales DO NOT lie. The global history of hip hop sales would fukking DWARF dancehall from inception to current day, and no metric would make jamaican music look more popular. You could combine all forms and pit them against one region of hip hop, and the shyt would still look like a Virgin Megastore going up against a mom n pop retailer. No comparison.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

@Retired the young UK is doing DRILL right now, not "ragga".

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

You're a Somali from Toronto and Jamaicans are the biggest black population in Toronto...there are also more rappers and R&B artists than reggae artists coming out of Toronto despite there NOT being an AA presence in the city.
AAs DID have a historic neighborhood in Montreal before the first African or Islander had the idea of stepping foot up here but everything got broke up in the 50s...It was Jazzy spot called Little Burgundy in Montreal. Montreal is known for Jazz for THAT REASON. Guess who lives in Little Burgundy now? Black people...getting gentrified. Of course these folks aren't aware of the history. They came from one place and will be moved to another like usual.

I'm not Somalian breh. I been in Toronto long enough to remember when this was a dancehall city. Up until the early 2000's. All the artists coming out now are generations removed from that. I don't fukk with Canadian trap music

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

yall dont know how to play dominoes properly. Im American but yall be sounding whack as fukk in these threads. specially you two.

you cosigning a bedbuck too

Bro you spell wack like a whiteboy, never hop in any thread after me or quote me again. You probably have a nasal maple mandem accent, aka that whiteboy jamaican hybrid bobby's world mama sounding hoe shyt that I laugh at in person.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

@Retired the young UK is doing DRILL right now, not "ragga".

And hip hop got auto tune crooning from dancehall.


Y'all don't have a monopoly on influence.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

I'm not Somalian breh. I been in Toronto long enough to remember when this was a dancehall city. Up until the early 2000's. All the artists coming out now are generations removed from that. I don't fukk with Canadian trap music

oh shyt you kenyan that's right.
Yeah and I remember when Kardinal and them + more were making fake dipset videos and "The Real Toronto" DVD, which was popular in the early 00s...when some of y'all would come down to NYC to try and get on. I can't speak on anything before that but I had MuchMusic on Satellite. "Northern Touch" was gaining traction. That Choclair song was popping too.
Plus my folks had hella tour dates up here. You know that's the first time I came to Canada right? ON TOUR.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

And hip hop got auto tune crooning from dancehall.


Y'all don't have a monopoly on influence.

Yes and no.
nikkas were using Vocoders (Troutman)....and Cher was the first person to use autotune in a commercial sense.
The Tanto Metro/Devontee song was only popular in the NYC tri state.
The first rappers to use Autotune were southern.
Nah.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

1.We talking about RECENT TIMES aka within the past 40-70 years. Reggae is a hybrid of Afram music and Afram music sets the tone and bpm 90% of the time. We make modern music mutate.
2.They started "RAP-TOASTING" because of us....and the first "count machuki" version of Toasting was gleaned from Afram Jive Radio DJS...that's why the rappers are still called DEEJAYS to this day. We started the root and the split, fammo. "Here comes the judge" (1969) predates the first dancehall song (1982) and the first COMMERCIAL rap song (1979) came in between both dates. Sorry breh, no compromise.
3.Hip Hop has been around for 40+ years. That's not a moment.
4.Jamaicans dressed like Migos w/ the skinny fits....ERRRRRRRRRRRT...My g? Kool Moe Dee? 80s rappers? 80s Drug dealers didn't wear those clothes? Sorry again, fam. Oh, and the migos are wearing slimmed down euro gear. That's some shyt DC brehs have been doing since the 80s UNINTERRUPTED.
5.Stealing hairstyles? Single braids naturally lock up and that's exactly where that came from on our end. nikkas was not fukking with jakes like that bro. WHITE PEOPLE got that from jamaicans. Braiding/Plaiting hair is something we retained.
6.Dancehall didn't run any world at any time, ever. It was born in 1982. Music sales DO NOT lie. The global history of hip hop sales would fukking DWARF dancehall from inception to current day, and no metric would make jamaican music look more popular. You could combine all forms and pit them against one region of hip hop, and the shyt would still look like a Virgin Megastore going up against a mom n pop retailer. No comparison.

You lying right now. That whole Migos look and fit was dancehall 15 years ago not the Kool Moe d skinny jeans fit the euro fashion shyt

You can't even dispute locks my dude that's out

There was dancehall superstars before there was rap superstars.

If you don't think dancehall ran the world then go party with women and see their response when ts time to whine vs throw they hands in the air.. Women of all races get open off some lovers rock tunes.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

You lying right now. That whole Migos look and fit was dancehall 15 years ago not the Kool Moe d skinny jeans fit the euro fashion shyt

You can't even dispute locks my dude that's out

There was dancehall superstars before there was rap superstars.

If you don't think dancehall ran the world then go party with women and see their response when ts time to whine vs throw they hands in the air.. Women of all races get open off some lovers rock tunes.

1.Mad dopeboys were already doing that and it's a DC look that has been so for a LONG time. You don't know our whole history.
2.Dancehall superstars like WHO? How long did that last? 5 minutes.
3.Migos have on VERSACE SHIRTS...they're slimmed down. Who was wearing versace shirts before? BIGGIE...MASTER P...ETC. Why were they wearing versace shirts? DOPE KINGPINS.
It's been a look.

Oh what's that? A whole versace fit in 1997. It's not mega baggy, either...Atlanta nikkas didn't get shyt from Jakes bro. We rotate our own looks in and out. Dominicans been wearing tight gear too...DC nikkas...always.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

@Retired and brehs started the tight wave again frfr because of the West Coast...and there is NO caribbean presence there outside of some Belizeans here and there.