Why are AA's the only group in the diaspora who are told get in tune with their culture?

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

unwillingness to acknowledge the biases held in a culture are part of the reason it is so hard to change*

which culture?

Africa has so many peoples and cultures hence the problem....

The idea of this singular held mindstate on a bias is an utter joke. One I only encountered in the west.

 

[Turk]

I read this whole thread and I still don’t know what it’s about

The crux of this thread is......why do other groups of Black people in the diaspora, who have a shared history of chattel slavery and the stripping of their Africans roots, not face the questions of having culture or knowing their culture?

I tried to make the point of this thread clear, but it appears my presentation was lacking

 

[xoxodede]

You are annoying because you are stupid and probably the dumbest person on the TLR...

You probably the most insufferable and stupidest person I ever met on the internet.

I listed African American thinkers and scholars that defined the African American race and our worldview.

Every single race and ethnicity has that because that's how society works.

African American equivalent of Plato and Aristotle already existed, it's just most Black Americans aren't educated on them

You have thought leaders that outlines the world for everyone within their group. That's how human societies work.

WEB Dubois and his the Double Consciousness theory and all his works

Alain Locke and the New Negro movement and the Harlem Renaissance.

David Walker and the Appeal

Frederick Douglass and his countless works

These are the works that is the foundation of post slavery African American life, expression, identity and outlook on the world.

Not food. Not music. Not celebrities.

No Japanese person gonna tell you anime and sushi is what defines them.

No Italian person is gonna point to Mafia movies and pizza and spaghetti as a defining their identity.

I get you. The thing is - as you mentioned we have those individuals as well - they know about them - as we do. But, they will not highlight them as representatives of Black culture.

America and the long-held created narrative about AA is we are great entertainers and cooks. Our scholars/inventors/creators will always be placed in the background and challenged - not only by whites but by other Blacks. It's sad - but it's the way it's set up.

The best thing that can happen to Black America in this day and age - is either take back Hip-Hop and change the image/and narrative around it - or give it to white folks. Another option is figure out how to control the image that is being sent out globally of Black American people and our culture.

Because until that happens - white media will continue to present it as Black Culture. I have even seen Black people say our culture is Hip-hop/Rap. It's pretty sad.

 

[xoxodede]

which culture?

Africa has so many peoples and cultures hence the problem....

The idea of this singular held mindstate on a bias is an utter joke. One I only encountered in the west.

This is true. But, we are the ones hearing we don't have one - so that question would have to be directed to those who ask us or claim they have one and we don't.

 

[xoxodede]

I tried to make the point of this thread clear, but it appears my presentation was lacking

I think someone answered the question early on.

Which is, people feel like AA don't have a home country - not recognizing or crediting America as our home - and that we had a huge part of creating it and it's culture.

 

[Shadow King]

Those other disasporans have more aspects of their culture derived from Africa...we don't. This is not a reason to belittle AA culture though.

 

[010101]

which culture?

Africa has so many peoples and cultures hence the problem....

The idea of this singular held mindstate on a bias is an utter joke. One I only encountered in the west.

the majority on that

by extension of tribalism its a strained relationship then peppered by nationalism

and at the end of the day if you and your folks got love for us let it be known it's on you to make it clear

*

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

This is true. But, we are the ones hearing we don't have one - so that question would have to be directed to those who ask us or claim they have one and we don't.

Clearly that's not even remotely true, AA's have a lot of culture. Anyone who would pose that question is either ignorant or spiteful..

My response was to directed to a particular question not in general.

 

[xoxodede]

Clearly that's not even remotely true, AA's have a lot of culture. Anyone who would pose that question is either ignorant or spiteful..

My response was to directed to a particular question not in general.

Well, it's A LOT of ignorant, spiteful people out there.

And cool...

 

[BmoreGorilla]

You are annoying because you are stupid and probably the dumbest person on the TLR...

You probably the most insufferable and stupidest person I ever met on the internet.

I listed African American thinkers and scholars that defined the African American race and our worldview.

Every single race and ethnicity has that because that's how society works.

African American equivalent of Plato and Aristotle already existed, it's just most Black Americans aren't educated on them

You have thought leaders that outlines the world for everyone within their group. That's how human societies work.

WEB Dubois and his the Double Consciousness theory and all his works

Alain Locke and the New Negro movement and the Harlem Renaissance.

David Walker and the Appeal

Frederick Douglass and his countless works

These are the works that is the foundation of post slavery African American life, expression, identity and outlook on the world.

Not food. Not music. Not celebrities.

No Japanese person gonna tell you anime and sushi is what defines them.

No Italian person is gonna point to Mafia movies and pizza and spaghetti as a defining their identity.

I already gave you the definition of culture so why you continue to be willfully ignorant is beyond me. I never disagreed with you that intellectualism helps define a culture. At the same time the arts and food have to be included. If food wasn’t a part of culture we’d all be eating the same exact thing. Music was essential to our survival. When you think of other countries the first things you think of are food, music, architecture, religion, history, style of dress etc. You must draw from every facet of society to define its culture

You’d think somebody who claims to be intellectual would know this


But then again you named yourself after a racist serial killer so what do I know?

 

[Soundbwoy]

I just explained to you

"What I don't get is, if you were able to retain parts of your culture or all of it, why is bleaching being done in the caribbean, and parts Africa?

Why is there still colorism? Why are they still christians, and strong ones at that?

To me, every black person who says they kept their culture are way worse then black americans, because you have reasons to not buy into white supremacy, but you still do?"

To add to that, if you are from a majority black country, you should have even less reason to allow white supremacy to creep into your everyday life. I can understand playing a game to get money, as its a global economy, but when it comes to the average person, what is their reasoning? They barely see any white people to appease!

It not that simple and as far as black peoples nobody is in a better position really. We have our own lands but it’s being managed by some of the most currupt politicians in cahoots with cacs

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

the majority on that

by extension of tribalism its a strained relationship then peppered by nationalism

and at the end of the day if you and your folks got love for us let it be known it's on you to make it clear

*

nah that's where we differ its on all of us equally. the presumption of one party having more to do for/by the other is false. you can make that point only with Diasporans in America otherwise its mute.

 

[010101]

nah that's where we differ its on all of us equally. the presumption of one party having more to do for/by the other is false. you can make that point only with Diasporans in America otherwise its mute.

aa folk amalgamate all diasporans pretty easily and willingly

the majority of bridge building & reaching out is done on this side

if everyone moved how we moved we'd be half way home by now

*

 

[Supper]

AAs are seen as not African enough...

Like we are just the facsimile of White people... but have Black skin.

And it doesn't help that AAs and Americans in general see shyt like food and music as "culture" which it's not, those are cultural products made for mass consumption and exchange.

When people see you...as nothing but the group of people that put seasoning on their food and they can dance and sing really good...then you gonna be treated as such and you gonna feel as such.

AA's need to look to WEB Dubois, David Walker and Frederick Douglass as the root of Black American culture instead of looking to fukking Michael Jackson, Oprah and Jay Z.

Every other group in the America, when it comes down to their culture, they look towards their philosophical and political leader.

They don't think about their food and music...

So yeah, AA's have a culture problem, we don't know what it is.


Culture isn't how you wear your hair, or what you eat or the music you listen to, it is how you view the world. Everything else is cultural products for sell and exchange.

Asians have Confucius, Western Europeans got Aristotle and Plato...who do African Americans point to, to represent their intellectual and philosophical heritage?

High culture
High culture - Wikipedia

Folk/low culture
Folklore - Wikipedia

Pop culture
Popular culture - Wikipedia

Perhaps you should learn to distinguish the difference, because music and food expressed through all three categories, and African-Americans culture is expressed at all three categories.

 

[AlainLocke]

I get you. The thing is - as you mentioned we have those individuals as well - they know about them - as we do. But, they will not highlight them as representatives of Black culture.

America and the long-held created narrative about AA is we are great entertainers and cooks. Our scholars/inventors/creators will always be placed in the background and challenged - not only by whites but by other Blacks. It's sad - but it's the way it's set up.

The best thing that can happen to Black America in this day and age - is either take back Hip-Hop and change the image/and narrative around it - or give it to white folks. Another option is figure out how to control the image that is being sent out globally of Black American people and our culture.

Because until that happens - white media will continue to present it as Black Culture. I have even seen Black people say our culture is Hip-hop/Rap. It's pretty sad.

I really think it comes down to education and how multicultural capitalism works...

In capitalism everything is for sale...even people and their culture...

Whatever is sold by a particular group comes will automatically equals their "culture" since that is everyone's first and only contact with that group...

For Japanese people, it's anime and food and martial arts...

For Italians, it's mafia and food

For us, it's entertainment and food...

And then for us...as a whole we have shytty education due to racism...so we can't tell anybody about ourselves...

And then...we got people in our own ethnic group that will subscribe to the whole.."we sing good and put seasoning on our food..." you know...folk culture/low culture shyt...

Culture is really your justification for existence...

If you can't tell your ethnic/racial story and beliefs and the struggle...people won't respect you.

Remember when Malcolm X was explaining the impact of having a European name vs an African name and how the African name gets respect as a Black man since it is signifies you have a history and a lineage...

That's how culture is...

Like all you can tell people about yourself is Hip Hop and food...and idk church...

But you can't tell nobody about WEB Dubois or Alain Locke and how Alain Locke created the philosophy of like African American life and birthed the Harlem Renaissance, which gave us Jazz and African American literature and then Leroi Jones aka Amiri Baraka and the Black Arts Movement in the 60s....

Then like what's the point...

If I ask a Latino man about his culture...I ain't asking about food and music....I can go to the taco place and I can get a Latin music album...I am asking him how he came to be.