Why All the British actors end up taking American roles....

Akae Beka

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If you Yanks are complaining about us Brits taking Yank roles then come to the UK and secure some UK acting roles. Learn the multiple British accents (London ones, West Country, Brummie, Yorshire, East Midlands, Geordie, East Anglian, Scouse, Manc etc) and play a Mandem/Roadman. Or a British cop. Or a Hooligan. Or a Chip shop owner. Or a Kebab shop owner :troll:

While you're here in the UK, you yanks can learn some real culture:
Football (not Handegg)
Proper beer not the shyt you guys drink.
Football anthems
Fish and Chips
Going out then getting a Kebab
Full English Breakfast including Blood/Black Pudding

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To be fair, a lot of brits dont or havent shown that much range in black american accents. :yeshrug:. Ive been fooled before tho
 

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I'm not sure what you're trying to compare. I just pointed out that he has a ton of range and he carried that movie. Why are you trying to compare him to Denzel Washington?






Clint Eastwood was still going action hero at 78. :dead:

My bad, I miss interpreted what you posted. Thought you were saying there weren't any American actors on DDL's level.
 

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Nah, I think both countries have first-class actors. I was just riffing on DDL for a moment.

UK ain't got no Taimak Guarriello. :wow:

I don't think Gary Oldman gets enough props... I believe he's as good as DDL the difference is DDL is a recluse who only comes out of retirement every few years to take on a great role.. whereas Oldman is much more active and sometimes tends to do mediocre films so his rep as an actor isn't held in the same regard. Oldman is great at playing foreign and American characters [especiallly bad guys] because he's actually witnessed/experienced that lifestyle... Nil By Mouth his directorial debut is one of the most underrated flicks that has come out in my lifetime.
 

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The irony tied to the complaints about the hiring of Black British actors on U.S. productions is that many of the film directors, casting directors and producers in charge of making these choices are (the term that applies depends on your age and politics...) black American/African-American/ADOS/FBA.

John Singleton's heritage was from the black South like the vast majority of us in this country. He was one of the most respected film and television creatives of all time.

Yet, when it was time to cast the young lead in his South Central-based, 80s drug trade series, he chose Damson Idris.

Idris, born in Peckham, south-east London, studied drama at Brunel University London, where he received a BA Honours degree in Theatre, Film & Television studies.

The only way to seriously address this issue is to ask the directors, casting directors and producers who are making the decisions.

Focusing on just the actors themselves ignores how the casting process operates.


John Singleton's Snowfall Audition Process Sounds Insane

BY MALCOLM VENABLEJUN 30, 2017 4:02 PM EDT

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As Franklin Saint in FX's new series Snowfall, British actor Damson Idris plays a (mostly) level-headed teenager. He's the kind of kid who goes to a nice school and respects the rules of his strict mom...until he discovers the cocaine business and starts selling crack. Idris is nothing short of captivating as the man undergoing moral decline in South Central Los Angeles — a neighborhood often depicted in pop culture as dangerous, since it experienced staggering levels of gang violence and murder in the mid '80s.

Having grown up in the area, Snowfall co-creator John Singleton naturally took great pains to make sure details in Snowfall were right, including a lead actor who could get the mannerisms, accents and body language of an early '80s South Central teenager just right.

That's why when it came time to audition Idris for the part — who was born in 1991, thousands of miles away in London — Singleton made him prove he was up for the part by what else? Taking him on a field trip into the tough neighborhood.

"At first, I was like, 'Oh no - another British actor,'" Singleton told TVGuide.com, alluding to recent blowback directed at black British actors playing Americans. But after Idris nailed a script read, Singleton upped the ante with a real-time audition in the South L.A. streets — specifically Crenshaw and Vernon, where in the '80s, serial killers, broad day drug buys and the sound of gunshots were normal. "I took him out on the streets and had him hang out with some folks, and nobody knew he was a Brit."

These days, the area — rebranded as South L.A. in the early 2000s — is much safer, though its reputation as a place that doesn't exactly roll out the welcome wagon for outsiders lingers justifiably. None of it phased Idris though. "He knew how to change his physicality and talk a certain way," Singleton said. "I figured if he could do it in real life, he could do it on the screen and I was like, 'Wow. You got the part man.'"

John Singleton's Snowfall Audition Process Sounds Insane | TV Guide
 

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Where is today's version of the Negro Ensemble Company, which produced Denzel and Samuel L. Jackson?

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Prior to the 1960s, there were virtually no outlets for the wealth of black theatrical talent in America. Playwrights writing realistically about the black experience could not get their work produced, and even the most successful performers, such as Hattie McDaniel and Butterfly McQueen, were confined to playing roles as servants. It was disenfranchised artists such as these who set out to create a theater concentrating primarily on themes of black life. In 1965, Playwright Douglas Turner Ward, producer/actor Robert Hooks, and theater manager Gerald Krone came together to make these dreams a reality with the Negro Ensemble Company (NEC). The main catalyst for this project was the 1959 production of “A Raisin in the Sun.”Written by Lorraine Hansberry, of “A Raisin in the Sun” was a gritty, realistic view of black family life.

...Since its founding in 1967, the NEC has produced more than two hundred new plays and provided a theatrical home for more than four thousand cast and crew members. Among its ranks have been some of the best black actors in television and film, including Louis Gossett Jr., Sherman Hemsley, and Phylicia Rashad. The NEC is respected worldwide for its commitment to excellence, and has won dozens of honors and awards. While these accolades point to the larger success of the NEC, it has created something far greater. It has been a constant source and sustenance for black actors, directors, and writers as they have worked to break down walls of racial prejudice.

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String wasn't even the main character in his storyline.... Avon was so WTF are you talking about?

McNulty stopped being the main character after the first season... There was Bunk, Kima, Daniels and a ton of other characters who had lead roles that were American.

The fact that you don't even know who the 3rd UK actor was tells me you probably didn't even watch the show... the cat the played Tommy Carcetti is from the UK... He also played LIttle Finger in Game of Thrones.

Stop projecting the bullshyt you're doing in this thread onto me:gucci:
Nikka you named Bruce leRoy

And are arguing against actors taking on broad roles across cultures in a movie thread

:stopitslime:

Some of you nikkaz lack all self awareness

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Some would constitute that character to be a cultural appropriation.

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Don't @ me
 

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Why are cac actors being mentioned here. It only becomes a problem when UK Blacks who have zero clue on the culture are hired to play Black American icons.
See Denzel's immortal performance as Malcolm X compared the forgettable MLK Jr in Selma.:hhh:
Another dumb dumb with a double standard he is trying to juelz. "But it's um not the same because uh you see and..."

:bryan:

It only becomes a problem because you dislike foreign nikkaz. Nobody cares about why, you got more baggage than a bytch.

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@Stringer Cochran stay out of this one. Last time you got embarrassed so bad in this argument you had to change your name.
 

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Another dumb dumb with a double standard he is trying to juelz. "But it's um not the same because uh you see and..."

:bryan:

It only becomes a problem because you dislike foreign nikkaz. Nobody cares about why, you got more baggage than a bytch.

:mjpls:

@Stringer Cochran stay out of this one. Last time you got embarrassed so bad in this argument you had to change your name.
What double standards, you emotional fruitcake? If foreign nikkaz also feel their own should rep their icons, I really couldn't give a flying fukk. I certainly won't be up in there face crying about it like a sissy.
 

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The double standard you tried to exclude from discussion. That it also happens to white Hollywood ten times more than Black. And they don't have bickering fakkits crying about it.

Do you do anything but bytch?


That's a retorical question...
What double standards, you emotional fruitcake? If foreign nikkaz also feel their own should rep their icons, I really couldn't give a flying fukk. I certainly won't be up in there face crying about it like a sissy.
 
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...funny to see which situations make folks pick and choose when to be a patriot, woke, pro-black, elitist, capitalist, political party apologist and revolutionary. Situations affiliated with the entertainment industry is great fodder
bubu humans are complex, nobody is "one thing" all the time
-manipulating self serving opportunist
 

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The double standard you tried to exclude from discussion. That it also happens to white Hollywood ten times more than Black. And they don't have bickering fakkits crying about it.

Do you do anything but bytch?


That's a retorical question...
I don't give a fukk about cacs, ho. They could get a Chinese to play one of their own and I still wouldn't care.:umad:
 
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