Why All the British actors end up taking American roles....

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

It's insane because our actors and actresses are far superior to their actors/actresses. Our movie awards prove that. Viola Davis alone has two Tony Awards, an Oscar, a BATFA, an Emmy, a Golden Globe and 2 Sag awards. She has more awards than all of their British actors and actresses combined. Have those Brits even won anything?? Viola was more than qualified to play Harriet. It's ridiculous.

You think because a committee awarded you something, that makes you great?

reading a lot of your responses make me wonder where in the world of reality y’all live. You got one guy who can’t really make an argument, nor refute, asks you questions instead of answering yours, after you answer him, so he calls you an agent.

that’s a sign of weakness, imho.

other posters being like “they’re vastly superior”

makes me realize I’m just talking to people who have no experience in Hollywood other than watching films on screens. You’d be surprised to see how many British people work in film, in front and behind the camera. In a lot of films y’all like too...

 

[Undefined187]

Soaps are not known for acting skills, its even stupid for you to mention soaps.

So the British soapstars that have actually made it in Hollywood. What are they doing?

Not to mention the many more who failed.

Mitzeee from Hollyoaks won an Oscar ffs

Saying something is stupid with no evidence to back it up is in fact stupid and does nothing to help this discussion.

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

If being classically trained is the reason foreign actors are getting roles why aren't the classically trained American ones getting the same opportunities?


Page Kennedy(who gets typecast mainly in stereotypical roles) is Shakespearean trained and has a degree in theater.





Why isn't he getting lead roles?

Why isn't he getting the same opportunities as those foreign actors?

Do you realize how many classically trained actors DONT get work either?

why would you think showing ONE classically, out of work trained black American actor would somehow refute a whole institution of actors being classically trained?

for atleast a century? A fukking school teaching multiple people for close to a hundred years? You gone pick one guy? And weight that against that?

for an argument, that’s false equivalence...

 

[Bruce LeRoy]

I don't agree that there aren't first-class american actors but DDL is a legend. You didn't even include...



Two actors portraying guys who are both "acting" but at the same time internalizing all sorts of heavy shyt that they may or may not let slip out onto their faces at any particular point.

I didn't even like the movie that much, thought it was way overrated, but DDL's performance is . He carried the movie, put George Clooney in that role and it wouldn't have done shyt.

George Clooney? He was never regarded as being on DDL's level

Denzel is easily as good if not better than Daniel Day Lewis... I have yet to see DDL do a scene going head up with a GREAT actor and hold his own in the same way Denzel went head to head with one of the greatest actors of all time Gene Hackman. Tommy Lee Jones almost stole DDL's awards thunder when Lincoln was doing it's rounds... Denzel has also accomplished more doing stage in the past and present than DDL has.

Also Denzel despite being great he gives his costars room to shine. DDL blasts his costars off screen to make himself look good going up against non stage trained actors like Leo and Paul Dano.

 

[null]

Meryl Streep, Glenn close, Sean Penn, Dustin hoffman and Tom Hanks are all equivalents to those two. But that doesn't change my point. Where are the young actors from Britain pulling this off? Whenever these threads come up, we're supposed to be just accepting of these British actors. But who are these young British actors blowing up the spot?

No one is saying US actors are not good. People are saying that at the top end the number of Brits grows proportionately. That's pretty normal because no one is going to hire bad British actors when they could just get equivalents at a cheaper price elsewhere. To get in they have to have some talent rather than for example just looking good or being an established star in another area.

Anyone who disputes this ain't paying attention .

The reason why people refer to the older actors is because the older actors are still holding in there and not giving up the seats to younger guys. You have 70 year old guys playing action heroes. You have 50+ year old guys playing super heroes. 60+ year old guys playing romantic leads.

We have got to the point though where this is stretching credibility and (de-aging tech notwithstanding) the old heads will be slipping out of the top roles soon enough. The other issue is that movies are not as actor driven as before so again actors take 2nd place to franchises, marketing, buzz, hype, special effects. These factors also affect young american actors too. Denzel is still Equalizing, Jackson still Furying, DeNiro/Pesci et all still Mafiosing. They need to move on.

Saying all of that Brits still have up and coming luminaries such as Domnell Gleeson (one of the best) and Florence Pugh.

As for Hollywood over all ages there is no competition. Not sure what the problem is in admitting it. People aren't denying that generally speaking the USA has the best opportunities, best software, best universities, best average salaries for a large country, best boxers overall etc.

John Hurt.
Patrick Stewart - they had to dig him up because without him.
Olivier.
DDL.
O'Toole.
Ustinov.
Ian McKlennan.
Oldman.
Cary Grant.
Alec Guiness.
Burton.
Anthony Hopkins.
Chaplin.
David Niven.
Michael Caine
Peter Cushing.
Richard Harris.
Sean Connery
Ben Kingsley.
Hugo Weaving.

Aren't Chaplin and Grant the biggest actors of all time?

You can't win them all breh.

 

[null]

George Clooney? He was never regarded as being on DDL's level

Denzel is easily as good if not better than Daniel Day Lewis... I have yet to see DDL do a scene going head up with a GREAT actor and hold his own in the same way Denzel went head to head with one of the greatest actors of all time Gene Hackman. Tommy Lee Jones almost stole DDL's awards thunder when Lincoln was doing it's rounds... Denzel has also accomplished more doing stage in the past and present than DDL has.

Also Denzel despite being great he gives his costars room to shine. DDL blasts his costars off screen to make himself look good going up against non stage trained actors like Leo and Paul Dano.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

George Clooney? He was never regarded as being on DDL's level

Denzel is easily as good if not better than Daniel Day Lewis... I have yet to see DDL do a scene going head up with a GREAT actor and hold his own in the same way Denzel went head to head with one of the greatest actors of all time Gene Hackman. Tommy Lee Jones almost stole DDL's awards thunder when Lincoln was doing it's rounds... Denzel has also accomplished more doing stage in the past and present than DDL has.

Also Denzel despite being great he gives his costars room to shine. DDL blasts his costars off screen to make himself look good going up against non stage trained actors like Leo and Paul Dano.

I'm not sure what you're trying to compare. I just pointed out that he has a ton of range and he carried that movie. Why are you trying to compare him to Denzel Washington?

No one is saying US actors are not good. People are saying that at the top end the number of Brits grows proportionately. That's pretty normal because no one is going to hire bad British actors when they could just get equivalents at a cheaper price elsewhere. To get in they have to have some talent rather than for example just looking good or being an established star in another area.

Anyone who disputes this ain't paying attention .

The reason why people refer to the older actors is because the older actors are still holding in there and not giving up the seats to younger guys. You have 70 year old guys playing action heroes. You have 50+ year old guys playing super heroes. 60+ year old guys playing romantic leads.

We have got to the point though where this is stretching credibility and (de-aging tech notwithstanding) the old heads will be slipping out of the top roles soon enough. The other issue is that movies are not as actor driven as before so again actors take 2nd place to franchises, marketing, buzz, hype, special effects. These factors also affect young american actors too. Denzel is still Equalizing, Jackson still Furying, DeNiro/Pesci et all still Mafiosing. They need to move on.

Saying all of that Brits still have up and coming luminaries such as Domnell Gleeson (one of the best) and Florence Pugh.

As for Hollywood over all ages there is no competition. Not sure what the problem is in admitting it. People aren't denying that generally speaking the USA has the best opportunities, best software, best universities, best average salaries for a large country, best boxers overall etc.

John Hurt.
Patrick Stewart - they had to dig him up because without him.
Olivier.
DDL.
O'Toole.
Ustinov.
Ian McKlennan.
Oldman.
Cary Grant.
Alec Guiness.
Burton.
Anthony Hopkins.
Chaplin.
David Niven.
Michael Caine
Peter Cushing.
Richard Harris.
Sean Connery
Ben Kingsley.
Hugo Weaving.

Aren't Chaplin and Grant the biggest actors of all time?

You can't win them all breh.

Clint Eastwood was still going action hero at 78.

 

[OG Talk]

What type of nonsense is this?

Why dont white americans moan about english people playing american roles?

They do advocate in their own ways.

Do you know what made The Sopranos so authentic and great? Besides the writing it was that 90% of the roles were played by Italian Americans from the east coast.

If the roles were played by Swedish or German actors doing their best Italian impersonation based off of stereotypes then it wouldn’t have been as great.

Trust me, the real detail oriented white artists that care about their audience, DO care about stuff like this. They just don’t moan as much because they are in the positions of power to make the changes.

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

If you Yanks are complaining about us Brits taking Yank roles then come to the UK and secure some UK acting roles. Learn the multiple British accents (London ones, West Country, Brummie, Yorshire, East Midlands, Geordie, East Anglian, Scouse, Manc etc) and play a Mandem/Roadman. Or a British cop. Or a Hooligan. Or a Chip shop owner. Or a Kebab shop owner

While you're here in the UK, you yanks can learn some real culture:
Football (not Handegg)
Proper beer not the shyt you guys drink.
Football anthems
Fish and Chips
Going out then getting a Kebab
Full English Breakfast including Blood/Black Pudding

 

[EndGame]

Why are cac actors being mentioned here. It only becomes a problem when UK Blacks who have zero clue on the culture are hired to play Black American icons.
See Denzel's immortal performance as Malcolm X compared the forgettable MLK Jr in Selma.

 

[Akae Beka]

you need to add aldis hodge to that list

He's Dominican(commonwealth)

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Those are American movies for American audiences.

no one gives a shyt if a black Brit plays an American in the UK. This point seems to keep flying over people’s head.

What your dumbass fails to realize is no one gives a shyt if your don’t approve of the background of the actor playing a role. You aren’t paying for shyt and the audience for these movies is global.

plenty of black people all over the globe that can act you simple minded dimwit.

fund and pay for your movie and hire who the fukk you want.

you sound like a fukking crab ass nikka

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

It's insane because our actors and actresses are far superior to their actors/actresses. Our movie awards prove that. Viola Davis alone has two Tony Awards, an Oscar, a BATFA, an Emmy, a Golden Globe and 2 Sag awards. She has more awards than all of their British actors and actresses combined. Have those Brits even won anything?? Viola was more than qualified to play Harriet. It's ridiculous.

Those same white people giving out those awards you’re bragging about also feel Uk actors are superior.

stay furious

 

[Lhark]

This is silly. Hollywood is the world capital for movies. Every country doesn’t have its own entertainment industry that can match what we have because ours is the global epicenter. You can’t ask the entire world to watch our movies and pay their money at the box office (which we do) but then say they can’t act in them.

This is what a lot of people are forgetting

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

so the black nikka from da streets, from brooklyn, part of a gang isn't authentic enough to portray himself

FOH

Again, they’re actors you fukking idiot. They don’t need to be real in order to act in a role.

go outside