Who's the better Quarterback? And whos career was better? Tom Brady or Peyton Manning

[Johnny Kilroy]

So in your estimation Brady's Generaling has fallen off over the last 7 years?

And actually it is a mistake because it takes the multitude of other factors outside of QB's performance out of the equation (unless of course nikkas like a QB in which case they can rattle off all the reasons an L isn't his fault ).

Ok it's not like a nikka gon win every year. But yeah, he has fallen off in that regards. But it ain't like Peyton is doing much better. The both putting up numbers now so they'll always be in the elite convo but at the end of the day, gimme a SB ring over any individual milestone.

Truth is, I'm taking ELI over both them nikkas and I never thought I would say that shyt. But Eli gets it done. I can't even front on him no more.

 

[sfgiants]

Joe Montana was a 2 time SB MVP while jerry rice was in highschool/college

 

[FTBS]

Ok it's not like a nikka gon win every year. But yeah, he has fallen off in that regards. But it ain't like Peyton is doing much better. The both putting up numbers now so they'll always be in the elite convo but at the end of the day, gimme a SB ring over any individual milestone.

Truth is, I'm taking ELI over both them nikkas and I never thought I would say that shyt. But Eli gets it done. I can't even front on him no more.

Why not? If, based on you logic, your greatness as a QB is manifested through W's and L's and nothing else matters but the QB, why wouldnt' the best General win every year?

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Why not? If, based on you logic, your greatness as a QB is manifested through W's and L's and nothing else matters but the QB, why wouldnt' the best General win every year?

That's NOT my logic at all. That's your misconstruction of my logic. If that was the case then EVERYBODY sucks but everybody has went a year when they didn't win the Super Bowl.

The question is who is the best QB (General) out of Brady and Manning. So to answer that we have to look at the resumes of Brady and Peyton. Brady's career speaks for itself. 3x as many rings and multiple playoff wins OVER Peyton.

Now how you figured that means Brady has to win every year...

I'ma just let you discuss that among yourself.

 

[FTBS]

That's NOT my logic at all. That's your misconstruction of my logic. If that was the case then EVERYBODY sucks but everybody has went a year when they didn't win the Super Bowl.

The question is who is the best QB (General) out of Brady and Manning. Brady's career speaks for itself. 3x as many rings and multiple playoff wins OVER Peyton.

Now how you figured that means Brady has to win every year...

I'ma just let you discuss that among yourself.

So in other words you just wanna have it both ways. You can't talk about rings and playoffs wins and talk about QB's being measured by W's and L's and then turn around and say "bu..bu..but you can't expect him to win every year." Why the fukk not? If rings and even playoff wins are a function of a QB's individual greatness why wouldn't the best QB be able to win every year?

 

[PTBG]

Peyton easily. Last season proved who was the better QB and how valuable he was compared to Brady. With Peyton gone for a year, the Colts are the worst team, when Brady was out for a year in 08, Matt fukking Cassel led them to 10 wins. And career wise, give me Peyton and his MVP's and his SB MVP>Brady. prime Peyton>prime Brady. Peyton had a bunch of bums he constantly carried. Brady not so much until recently once the Pat's defense got terrible, which was responsible for the Pat's success during the early 2000s, not Brady.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

So in other words you just wanna have it both ways. You can't talk about rings and playoffs wins and talk about QB's being measured by W's and L's and then turn around and say "bu..bu..but you can't expect him to win every year." Why the fukk not? If rings and even playoff wins are a function of a QB's individual greatness why wouldn't the best QB be able to win every year?

It's not that difficult. Obviously neither one is perfect like how you apparently want it. You look at the totality of their work and Brady wins. It's really pretty simple.

Based on your fukked up logic every QB who has ever won a game is the GOAT and every QB who ever lost a game is the WOAT, which means everybody gets a C. You're clearly confused, buddy.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

Truth is, I'm taking ELI over both them nikkas

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Did you not watch Eli shyt on Brady twice?

I used to be a Eli hater, but cotdamn that nikka has made me a believer. You'd be a fool to bet against Eli when the stakes are highest. He out-Bradied Brady twice.

And the Giants are one of my least favorite teams of all time, along with the Patriots and Cowboys but I gotta give respect where it's due. Eli > Brady > Peyton.

A few years ago I would have had the order reversed.

And that's as unbiased as it comes because like I said, I fukking hate the Giants and the Patriots.

 

[FTBS]

It's not that difficult. Obviously neither one is perfect like how you apparently want it. You look at the totality of their work and Brady wins. It's really pretty simple.

Based on your fukked up logic every QB who has ever won a game is the GOAT and every QB who ever lost a game is the WOAT, which means everybody gets a C. You're clearly confused, buddy.

/ at you trying to flip it. The fukked up logic is the QB is fully resposnible for W's and L's bullshyt that you posted. A variety of factors play a part in W's and L's. A QB can play great and lose. A Qb can play average or poorly and win. It's lazy, myopic, and unrealistic to attach a QB's greatness to team success. I prefer to look at how a guy actually plays, the players around him, the play calling, what he's asked to do in order to judge a QB. You like to just look and see who won and formulate your opinion of a guy based off that. I have to at least give you props for at least being consistent with it though.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

/ at you trying to flip it. The fukked up logic is the QB is fully resposnible for W's and L's bullshyt that you posted. A variety of factors play a part in W's and L's. A QB can play great and lose. A Qb can play average or poorly and win. It's lazy, myopic, and unrealistic to attach a QB's greatness to team success. I prefer to look at how a guy actually plays, the players around him, the play calling, what he's asked to do in order to judge a QB. You like to just look and see who won and formulate your opinion of a guy based off that. I have to at least give you props for at least being consistent with it though.

QB is "fully responsible for W's And L's"? Sorry, breh. I never posted that.

You're right about a QB can play great and lose and play poor and win though. But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about 2 of the game's elite QB's. So neither one of them plays poorly often. 2 great QB's. What separates them? W's. Especially head to head.

Number 1 criteria for being an elite QB: you must be elite. Once that's established, as is with these 2, then you delve deeper.

But I'ma end it here because I know you've gotta be trolling. Nobody can be this fukking dumb and work a computer.

You got me, breh. Good shyt.

 

[FTBS]

QB is "fully responsible for W's And L's"? Sorry, breh. I never posted that.

You're right about a QB can play great and lose and play poor and win though. But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about 2 of the game's elite QB's. So neither one of them plays poorly often. 2 great QB's. What separates them? W's. Especially head to head.

Number 1 criteria for being an elite QB: you must be elite. Once that's established, as is with these 2, then you delve deeper.

But I'ma end it here because I know you've gotta be trolling. Nobody can be this fukking dumb and work a computer.

You got me, breh. Good shyt.

If you use rings or victories as criteria to rate or judge QBs then you are putting the full responsibility on them. Like I said it's all good as long as you are consistent.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

If you use rings or victories as criteria to rate or judge QBs then you are putting the full responsibility on them. Like I said it's all good as long as you are consistent.

And you consistently lack reading comprehension.

 

[FTBS]

And you consistently lack reading comprehension.

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I said some bullshyt. You called me on it and now my only recourse is to throw out insults.

Got it.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

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Let's start with that you dumb fukk .