Who's Better: Jadakiss vs Prodigy

[DPG4Life]

Ia I the only one who like kiss' s albums they were all dope to especially kiss of death and the last kiss

i think the world expected more from Kiss

 

[torcher]

prodigy
kurupt
bun b
andre 3000 ESPECIALLY
and alot of others

people need to pump their breaks on these niccas.

Prodigy doesnt belong in that class and hands down was an elite rapper in the 90's

Kiss has always been overrated. Imo he epitomizes 2000's mixtape rapper(even though he's not really from that era);good for a freestyle or feature verse here and there but his music is only ok at best. I bunch rappers like him Fabolous, Lloyd Banks and Cassidy in the same class.

 

[mobbinfms]

prodigy
kurupt
bun b
andre 3000 ESPECIALLY
and alot of others

people need to pump their breaks on these niccas.

 

[mobbinfms]

Prodigy doesnt belong in that class and hands down was an elite rapper in the 90's

 

[Farrinto]

Kiss has always been overrated.

How? Kiss may not have a strong discography but he was a problem and still is.

 

[Wacky D]

this is why i dont like comparing group artists to solo artists.

if mobb deep wasnt a group, havoc wouldve kept most of those beats for himself. and whatever concepts havoc brought to the table would stay with him as well.

and whos to say that prodigy wouldve had it in him to hold down full songs by himself and still maintain infamous' spot as a top 10-20 album(top 5 in some circles)? i seriously doubt that he could. at best, it would just be a classic. and he certainly wouldnt have had anywhere near the same following. he doesnt have that IT factor by himself.

kiss has solo albums better than HNIC. and his mixtapes are way better.

nobody wants to address this.

 

[Wacky D]

i think the world expected more from Kiss

yup.

people grade kiss albums on a different scale, based on supreme expectations.

its illmatic or bust for the guy. all his mainstream albums were dope tho, and he has numerous albums better than any prodigy solo. and thats not even counting the mixtapes, which blow prodigy out the water. so i cant sit here and say that prodigy is the better artist. he didnt do anything great on his own. would he have been able to in his prime? who knows.

i can say that mobb deep is the better group.
while the lox is the better collection of emcees.
jadakiss is a better emcee than prodigy
and seeing that jada has the better body of solo material & impact, im gonna have to say hes a better solo artist than prodigy as well.

 

[pointproven214]

yup.

people grade kiss albums on a different scale, based on supreme expectations.

its illmatic or bust for the guy. all his mainstream albums were dope tho, and he has numerous albums better than any prodigy solo. and thats not even counting the mixtapes, which blow prodigy out the water. so i cant sit here and say that prodigy is the better artist. he didnt do anything great on his own. would he have been able to in his prime? who knows.

i can say that mobb deep is the better group.
while the lox is the better collection of emcees.
jadakiss is a better emcee than prodigy
and seeing that jada has the better body of solo material & impact, im gonna have to say hes a better solo artist than prodigy as well.

this just because it ain't a classic or whatever don't mean it is wack it's like it is one extreme or the other extreme where is the balance.

 

[Wacky D]

Prodigy doesnt belong in that class and hands down was an elite rapper in the 90's

i agree.

and i wasnt exactly grouping him with them dudes. im just saying they all like solo runs.

this just because it ain't a classic or whatever don't mean it is wack it's like it is one extreme or the other extreme where is the balance.

EXACTLY

 

[mobbinfms]

I neg stupid shyt like that

I don't like to delve into "what if" fictional alternative history, but if P had spit additional verses over Hav's beats, that were of the quality he had on those albums, same concepts and all, both albums would be 10s. The opposite is not true.

Yes. See above.

This is alternative fictional history. Fact is - the great solo material was great (regardless of who was listening).

Clowned? Isn't this about the music? No one was clowning Return of the Mac on the music. And that's better than any Jada solo.

These quotes are out of order, but @Wacky D me and @TheDarceKnight already preemptively addressed the fictional alternative history argument. And who knows what would have happened if P dropped a solo album with different song concepts over other producers beats. Other than that it wouldn't have been the Infamous, an album that is more than just the sum of its parts. A big part of what makes the Infamous as timeless as it is is the perfect combination of Hav's dark beats with P's voice content and imagery. Really, that's what makes the album what it is. Shout out to Q Tip for beefing up the drums.

@Stainzz

I took him off ignore, negged him, then put him right back on ignore

this is why i dont like comparing group artists to solo artists.

if mobb deep wasnt a group, havoc wouldve kept most of those beats for himself. and whatever concepts havoc brought to the table would stay with him as well.

and whos to say that prodigy wouldve had it in him to hold down full songs by himself and still maintain infamous' spot as a top 10-20 album(top 5 in some circles)? i seriously doubt that he could. at best, it would just be a classic. and he certainly wouldnt have had anywhere near the same following. he doesnt have that IT factor by himself.

kiss has solo albums better than HNIC. and his mixtapes are way better.

Quite a few people strongly disagree with this.

people grade kiss albums on a different scale, based on supreme expectations.

its illmatic or bust for the guy.

Nah - he's more like Method Man, Nas had it way harder because he did drop an all time classic album.

and he has numerous albums better than any prodigy solo.

See above.

so i cant sit here and say that prodigy is the better artist. he didnt do anything great on his own. would he have been able to in his prime? who knows.

Exactly. Who knows.

 

[Wacky D]

These quotes are out of order, but @Wacky D me and @TheDarceKnight already preemptively addressed the fictional alternative history argument. And who knows what would have happened if P dropped a solo album with different song concepts over other producers beats.

Nah - he's more like Method Man, Nas had it way harder because he did drop an all time classic album.

thats right. WE DONT KNOW. so why are yall so comfortable with just assuming that he wouldve did anything? because yall are fans of his?

my approach makes alot more sense dog. thats why i say, let the groups be groups and let the solo artists be solo. you cant compare who the better artist was because we didnt see prime prodigy on his own. you can only compare them as emcees, and you can compare their groups. saying prodigy is a better artist is nothing but pure assumption, based on duo material where he did less than half the work.

method man isnt on their level. and there was nowhere near as much srutiny placed on method man as there was placed on jada.

 

[Ohene]

Prodigy doesnt belong in that class and hands down was an elite rapper in the 90's

Kiss has always been overrated. Imo he epitomizes 2000's mixtape rapper(even though he's not really from that era);good for a freestyle or feature verse here and there but his music is only ok at best. I bunch rappers like him Fabolous, Lloyd Banks and Cassidy in the same class.

i kinda agree but Jadakiss has done verses with legends...and has beat them on record too. You CANNOT say the same about Fabolous, Lloyd and Cassidy. And I'm basically a Lloyd Stan. Jadakiss and the LOX fathered these dudes. it's not fair to box them in the same category because skill, legacy and success wise he's better than all three.

 

[Ohene]

yup.

people grade kiss albums on a different scale, based on supreme expectations.

its illmatic or bust for the guy. all his mainstream albums were dope tho, and he has numerous albums better than any prodigy solo. and thats not even counting the mixtapes, which blow prodigy out the water. so i cant sit here and say that prodigy is the better artist. he didnt do anything great on his own. would he have been able to in his prime? who knows.

i can say that mobb deep is the better group.
while the lox is the better collection of emcees.
jadakiss is a better emcee than prodigy
and seeing that jada has the better body of solo material & impact, im gonna have to say hes a better solo artist than prodigy as well.

nikka please. You havent said one correct thing in this post.

HNIC better than any Jada album...you could argue that Return of the Mac is as well which says a lot about Kiss considering P was in the twilight at that point. Grade D+ posting bruh

Shame Prodigy never hopped on that Last Day joint. he would've washed everyone on the record

 

[Wacky D]

nikka please. You havent said one correct thing in this post.

HNIC better than any Jada album...you could argue that Return of the Mac is as well which says a lot about Kiss considering P was in the twilight at that point. Grade D+ posting bruh

Shame Prodigy never hopped on that Last Day joint. he would've washed everyone on the record

prodigy and his struggle-raps on HNIC and everything afterwards isnt better than no dam every jadakiss album.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

thats right. WE DONT KNOW. so why are yall so comfortable with just assuming that he wouldve did anything? because yall are fans of his?

my approach makes alot more sense dog. thats why i say, let the groups be groups and let the solo artists be solo. you cant compare who the better artist was because we didnt see prime prodigy on his own. you can only compare them as emcees, and you can compare their groups. saying prodigy is a better artist is nothing but pure assumption, based on duo material where he did less than half the work.

method man isnt on their level. and there was nowhere near as much srutiny placed on method man as there was placed on jada.

In that case, if you don't take into account any of Mobb or LOX's work, I still think P edges it out, music wise. HNIC 3 is actually a really good example of Prodigy pulling a Jadakiss move and trying to make records to please everyone. Everyone listened and went "Nah man, that's not it." Which is what I think a lot of people thought when they heard a good portion of Jada's solo music. Some of it is slightly unfair from the gate, because P has access to Havoc and Alchemist, who are 2 of the best ever, and they've done great work with Jada and the LOX also, but P has almost unlimited access to them, and they compliment his style greatly. Jada doesn't have a go to producer that really fits him that will do most of, if not a whole album for him. At least no one that I know of.

I don't think it's Illmatic or bust with Jadakiss. I'd be happy with a 4.5 mic album, and I don't think he has one. I sound like I'm hating on him but I'm not. I think he's a better all around rapper than Prodigy, I just don't hear it in the music when you listen to their discographies. That's all my argument is.

I said it earlier, but I think Prodigy vs Styles P is a better comparison. Styles has made better albums than Jadakiss and I think it's a debate that just works a little easier. P and Jadakiss aren't even really the same type of rappers. All P and Jadakiss really have in common IMO is that they're both 2 of the best of all time, from NY, and are both part of 2 of the best groups of all time.