Whole Foods' Co-Founder John Mackey: "Why Intellectuals Hate Capitalism"

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And this is exactly why we as a society should allow for democratic laws to be enacted that reflect the values of the people and enforce the accepted constitutions. People think it is morally abhorrent for children to work... So they cannot work. Its that simple. Removing that restriction will NOT cause some kind of economic boom. Why would you be interested in the circumstances in which a child would work, which is obviously poverty? Your solution to this poverty is let the child work in a wealthy society for whatever rate the employer feels they are entitled to. Thats fukking unbelieveable.
Outlawing things we dont like shouldnt be the answer to everything.


I clearly advocated for a basic income as an answer to poverty. :comeon:
There is no incentive for a child to work under what I've laid, out, thus no need for the regulation, and if there wasnt its still something that should be on the table IMO.
Question what age is too young to work? in your opinion.








:sas1:... and if people are naturally as altruistic as has suggested in this thread, no child will have to work anyways, there will be more than enough charity :sas2:
 

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Outlawing things we dont like shouldnt be the answer to everything.


I clearly advocated for a basic income as an answer to poverty. :comeon:
There is no incentive for a child to work under what I've laid, out, thus no need for the regulation, and if there wasnt its still something that should be on the table IMO.
Question what age is too young to work? in your opinion.








:sas1:... and if people are naturally as altruistic as has suggested in this thread, no child will have to work anyways, there will be more than enough charity :sas2:

A basic income is a good idea but only in conjunction with the rest of the social welfare schemata. If it is in place of that, its a bad idea because children will be beholden at times to odiuos parentel spending. Furthermore, the amount given in this basic income idea must be congruent with some kind of statistical evidence that it is sufficient, and not ideological pretense.
 

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A lot of you really value democracy more than you should :heh:

I mean good god, a lot of people are REALLY too stupid for their own good and you all trust them? :heh:

I mean damn, granted I'd probably agree with like 80% of you on a functional level, theres no way the rest of the country would even understand why they need to agree with me
 

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they hate it...cause it shows Humans for what we really are....SHALLOW ..SIMPLISTIC and MATERIALISTIC

ethics don't mean shyt...............we want shyt...therefore we will take shyt (buy it)

I agree 200%.

Anthropologist, for example, have dedicated their lives to putting a deceptive gild over a 100 thousand year history of greed, ultra violence, genocide, exploitation, warfare and slavery.

When Dr. Jane Goodall first discovered and documented the infamous Chimpanzee tribal wars, her colleagues pressured her not publish her findings because of their implications on human nature. This is prime example of the pitiful fact of intellectuals--Intellectuals can't deal with reality.


So u where a BACK PACK RAPPER(Musician)....Who SUDDENLY SAW THE LIGHT :comeon:and the error of his ways and made a complete 180 TO THE MINDSET OF JOHN D ROCKEFELLER...man GTFOH :camby:...first of all THIS IS NOT A DRAKE THREAD...get off the corporate music shyt:rudy:, the best music has never been "quantified" by album sales...JZ's REASONABLE DOUBT vs JZ's Kingdom Come ....it's Reasonable Doubt hands down...but part of CORNY CAPITALISM's goal (which u clearly support) is to dull the audience into idiots that buy whatever capitalism can market best...thereby attempting to give marketeers control over the music economy at large, the artist buys into the bullshyt you kickin in your post and now we don't get material from the artist alone but also with your corny corporate hands in the mix. FUKK THAT AND FUKK THAT SHYT YOU TRYIN TO KICK:pacspit:


We know better BISH :ufdup:


This is the prime example. You can't accept that most people like vanilla-like easy-listening or non-threating music, so you make-up conspiracy theories and blame corporations.

I disagree. I have my own opinions of what is good music. However, if wanted to actually sell music for a living I would definitely get behind a drake-like character. In all honesty I hate drake, and I can't stand his music for more than 2 seconds.


If you think corporate america has some objective in making pop music, you're not living in realty. The Corporate music industry doesn't make a move without either tons of research using focus groups or (especially in today's era) by leaching-off preexisting memes and movements.

How did OT genasis, Lil B or chief Keith get popular? It wasn't corporate America. They had their own organic movements first. Even drake started off as a internet emcee.
 

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I agree 200%.

Anthropologist, for example, have dedicated their lives to putting a deceptive gild over a 100 thousand year history of greed, ultra violence, genocide, exploitation, warfare and slavery.

When Dr. Jane Goodall first discovered and documented the infamous Chimpanzee tribal wars, her colleagues pressured her not publish her findings because of their implications on human nature. This is prime example of the pitiful fact of intellectuals--Intellectuals can't deal with reality.





This is the prime example. You can't accept that most people like vanilla-like easy-listening or non-threating music, so you make-up conspiracy theories and blame corporations.

I disagree. I have my own opinions of what is good music. However, if wanted to actually sell music for a living I would definitely get behind a drake-like character. In all honesty I hate drake, and I can't stand his music for more than 2 seconds.


If you think corporate america has some objective in making pop music, you're not living in realty. The Corporate music industry doesn't make a move without either tons of research using focus groups or (especially in today's era) by leaching-off preexisting memes and movements.

How did OT genasis, Lil B or chief Keith get popular? It wasn't corporate America. They had their own organic movements first. Even drake started off as a internet emcee.
OT Genasis, Lil B or Chief Keef:stopitslime:






:russell:Suddenly I've tired of this convo
 

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The hypothetical has to many unanswered questions. Where are the parents, what about adoption, what about charity etc.

Should there be no better option, making it illegal will turn him to the streets. Which ironically is what we see today.

I see your point. I think it's much healthier to enroll that child into programs providing for them and giving them life and social experience to benefit them in future economic opportunity.
 

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OT Genasis, Lil B or Chief Keef:stopitslime:






:russell:Suddenly I've tired of this convo

Yup, three artist with 100s of millions between them. who at their primes sold out shows of varying venue sizes

I am sure the corporations intentionally launched gangam style or "watch me nay nay" in global popularity as well.

This why people like me drive Audis and Beemers and people like you work at mcdonalds and cry about the minimum wage.
 

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Yup, three artist with 100s of millions between them. who at their primes sold out shows of varying venue sizes

I am sure the corporations intentionally launched gangam style or "watch me nay nay" in global popularity as well.

This why people like me drive Audis and Beemers and people like you work at mcdonalds and cry about the minimum wage.

Define your personal worth by your material goods brehs
 

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Define your personal worth by your material goods brehs

I don't know what my personal
Worth really is. My profession benefits from market interference.

In a functioning and efficient market, income is an indication of how efficiently I allocate and process Scarce resources into goods and services.

As a CPA, market interference has artificially inflated my worth. I question the value of my goods and services. So in essence you are right. I cannot judge my true personal worth based on my income because I leach of the tax payer and probably have a negative effect on GDP-- I use scarce resources with high opportunity costs.
 

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Define your personal worth by your material goods brehs
How many love points do you have? :troll:

Whats the stock in caring trading at on the Nikkei? :troll:

I heard hugs were going to IPO :troll:

The Economist said VCs were moving to Smiles Valley :troll:

I saw a blog post that said I can trade my bitcoins for peace of mind :troll:

Its a good thing I can resell my trailer home on self esteem lane :troll:

My hemp clothing lasts way longer than these synthetic fibers :troll:

At work, we decided all to have a play day instead of fulfill orders :troll:

I just maxed out my donation to my 401-(K)indness fund :troll:

I'm glad we could reduce the national debt with happiness :troll:

Who needs profit when you have friendship :troll:
 
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Yup, three artist with 100s of millions between them. who at their primes sold out shows of varying venue sizes

I am sure the corporations intentionally launched gangam style or "watch me nay nay" in global popularity as well.

This why people like me drive Audis and Beemers and people like you work at mcdonalds and cry about the minimum wage.
I don't care about 100s of millions between them...they probably all have debts 3x that collectively(just how the music biz is set up), but never the less, their finance has nothing to do with the quality of their music. So with your logic McDonalds is higher quality then every restaurant because they clock more dollars...that's not even sound business logic...and those three artists that you named have NO longevity and most know that:mjlol:...corporations put out more one hit wonders than anything else and just eat off the publishing of major hits...they are not able really to mine for high quality long term artists, they sanction smaller labels to do that ie. Roc bad boy early cash money...

You drive Audi or BMW:upsetfavre:...that's beginner level luxury my friend...I wouldn't be throwin that around as if that's impressive in 2015:lolbron:( they're nice, just starter level...and I'm far from just starting)...and just a tip for you, the real wealthy in this country have an understanding for the need for wage adjustments(why do you think it's becoming a real topic of discussion)...so you keep driving your MIDDLE MANAGEMENT dream cars and stay in your MIDDLE MANAGEMENT state of mind you're in. And when u really wanna pick the brain of a wealthy individual maybe come with something deeper and more substantive to talk about than the kind of automobile you drive:gurl:
 
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You think feudalism is preferable to capitalism ?

People basically aren't understanding the concept that human societies change over time in terms of how they are socially organized and how they produce goods

I don't see how it is difficult to grasp that class societies can be compared to each other, whether it is slavery, feudalism, or capitalism
 
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