Who should be ranked higher P4P: Errol Spence or Teofimo Lopez?

[R=G]

Isnt every fight with Porter life and death though? Kell seemed to be able to neutralize him the most. Regardless a win is a win. Beating Porter, Garcia, and Brook is no walk in the park. I'm a Thurman stan, but I can't see him beating Spence. Manny dont want those problems. I'm not convinced Crawford beats Thurman or Porter. That said if we're talking about ruling the division, Teo is a weaker argument to make compared to Spence.

It wasn't no fukking life and death. Anyone who claims it was that close shouldn't be judging fights. Knockdown or not..it was 116-112..8 rounds to Spence. With these Latino racially charges agendas now prevalent in this section..you damn sure can't trust what they say about Wilder, Spence, Crawford...been slick talking them for quite some time now. Teo...a guy afraid to fight Haney is better because he beat a hypejob..Loma would of been knocked out if he faced Mikey. It's a joke.

 

[thewiseman]

It don't matter..thats a white boy deflection because you're scared to see Canelo fight someone he can't run over.

Quick...tell me ONE name on Charlo/Andrade's resume that is better than a prime undefeated Austin Trout.

 

[TheProfessor]

spence. Loma at 135 is nothing special.

 

[Hungerpain]

Spence

nikkas really hyping up lopez as undisputed at 135 like Tank and Devin dont exist?

 

[FreedMind]

Spence

nikkas really hyping up lopez as undisputed at 135 like Tank and Devin dont exist?

At least Lopez actually showed out against a top 3 P4P fighter.

 

[Hungerpain]

At least Lopez actually showed out against a top 3 P4P fighter.

Yea Because he had the opportunity to fight him.



Now Tell him fight Tank or Devin I bet it comes with Juelzing.


Bob Arum not letting Crawford off the porch while simultaneously short changing and cherry picking his opponents so what do you want Spence to do?

 

[GzUp]

Yea Because he had the opportunity to fight him.



Now Tell him fight Tank or Devin I bet it comes with Juelzing.


Bob Arum not letting Crawford off the porch while simultaneously short changing and cherry picking his opponents so what do you want Spence to do?

U can say what u want but he beat a top pound for pound fighter.

 

[FreedMind]

Yea Because he had the opportunity to fight him.



Now Tell him fight Tank or Devin I bet it comes with Juelzing.


Bob Arum not letting Crawford off the porch while simultaneously short changing and cherry picking his opponents so what do you want Spence to do?

But you said we hyping Lopez up like he didn't just go out there and beat the #1 guy in his division/top p4p fighter.

He got the opportunity, and showed out. An unproven Haney or Tank got shyt to do with it, especially when they ain't even fought someone on Lopez's level.

I ain't got a problem if you got Spence higher pound for pound, but put some respect on the youngin's name.

 

[Hungerpain]

But you said we hyping Lopez up like he didn't just go out there and beat the #1 guy in his division/top p4p fighter.

He got the opportunity, and showed out. An unproven Haney or Tank got shyt to do with it, especially when they ain't even fought someone on Lopez's level.

I ain't got a problem if you got Spence higher pound for pound, but put some respect on the youngin's name.

One meaningful win don’t overlap all Spence has done.
Spence never ducked no smoke Teo Been ducking Haney and making exsuses for how long now?

Y’all acting like He beat prime Floyd or some shyt.
He beat Lomo in a very close fight..
Good for him but until he truly dominate the division(like Spence has) and beats Tank or Haney..
Spence>

 

[Ducktales]

Teo bytch ass ducked Devin for crumbs for a possible fight under 2 million dollars that Arum low balling because he don’t even think the fight is worth watching , when Haney team offered 4 million. He wants to fight no names after beating a guy who also ducked Haney. Lying about mandatories his team already explained he did not have to take if he makes a bigger fight. Avoid black fighters at all cost is the game, so I’m going to go with Spence who has proven himself over and over continuing to look for the biggest and best fights
Lopez: Moving on if Top Rank 'can't meet terms'

 

[TheProfessor]

At least Lopez actually showed out against a top 3 P4P fighter.

who cares about some mythical list created by folks who suck Top Rank d*kk?

Loma looked like trash at 135 against mediocre opponents and he didn’t do much at 130 while we’re at it. He was overrated to start.

 

[Champ_KW]

Teo bytch ass ducked Devin for crumbs for a possible fight under 2 million dollars that Arum low balling because he don’t even think the fight is worth watching , when Haney team offered 4 million. He wants to fight no names after beating a guy who also ducked Haney. Lying about mandatories his team already explained he did not have to take if he makes a bigger fight. Avoid black fighters at all cost is the game, so I’m going to go with Spence who has proven himself over and over continuing to look for the biggest and best fights
Lopez: Moving on if Top Rank 'can't meet terms'

It's embarrassing, really. I too think Haney still a little green on the competition side of the game.....but man these fighters must know something most of us don't know about Haney. Loma petitioned for the franchise belt when Haney became his mandatory. Teo petitioned to make a fictional belt transferable with the Loma fight so he can carry on the witness protection tradition. Pops barking in the hallway at Eddie for $10M to fight a guy they claim isn't a threat....only to have his next fight end up in purse bid and likely off of the ESPN platform if someone other than Top Rank win the bid. Oh....lets not forget how Ryan fought a title eliminator to become Devin's mandatory, won, promptly called out everyone but Devin, and likely settling with Fortuna as his next fight. So people can try to clown the young man for his resume, but the cats that get in the ring and box, unlike these arm chair pugilist, are avoiding him like he's the boogeyman. Teo can never have his name mentioned with the big dogs like Spence with this stench of him ducking on him.

 

[Ducktales]

It's embarrassing, really. I too think Haney still a little green on the competition side of the game.....but man these fighters must know something most of us don't know about Haney. Loma petitioned for the franchise belt when Haney became his mandatory. Teo petitioned to make a fictional belt transferable with the Loma fight so he can carry on the witness protection tradition. Pops barking in the hallway at Eddie for $10M to fight a guy they claim isn't a threat....only to have his next fight end up in purse bid and likely off of the ESPN platform if someone other than Top Rank win the bid. Oh....lets not forget how Ryan fought a title eliminator to become Devin's mandatory, won, promptly called out everyone but Devin, and likely settling with Fortuna as his next fight. So people can try to clown the young man for his resume, but the cats that get in the ring and box, unlike these arm chair pugilist, are avoiding him like he's the boogeyman. Teo can never have his name mentioned with the big dogs like Spence with this stench of him ducking on him.

Man it’s blows my mind cuz I didn’t even think Haney did nothing so far for them (Teo,Ryan,Loma) to be doing all that, even though of course he is super talented. I had to go back and watch all his fights. But yeah they must feel like they can’t fight his style or something. It’s not like he a big puncher like Tank, and that’s not even me hating cuz I’m a fan, but damn. I thought everyone would be scared of Tank because of his power and last knockout (which is still true) , but it’s Haney the most can’t help but root for him now lol. It’s a shame cuz I thought Teo was the real deal I’m not scared of nobody fighter, but he acting like a hoe

 

[FreedMind]

who cares about some mythical list created by folks who suck Top Rank d*kk?

Loma looked like trash at 135 against mediocre opponents and he didn’t do much at 130 while we’re at it. He was overrated to start.

This entire thread is about that mythical list, so obviously a lot of people care.

Loma is way more accomplished than either Tank or Haney. Facts.

Teo beat Commey and Loma while 'ducking' Haney, yet I bet most people couldn't even name a single fighter Haney beat before Gamboa.

I'm also willing to go out and say that if Tank or Devin beat Loma first, wouldn't no one have shyt to say about Loma being overhyped/overrated. It's a great win for a young fighter, and it's ridiculous to say otherwise.

 

[Loose]

Man it’s blows my mind cuz I didn’t even think Haney did nothing so far for them (Teo,Ryan,Loma) to be doing all that, even though of course he is super talented. I had to go back and watch all his fights. But yeah they must feel like they can’t fight his style or something. It’s not like he a big puncher like Tank, and that’s not even me hating cuz I’m a fan, but damn. I thought everyone would be scared of Tank because of his power and last knockout (which is still true) , but it’s Haney the most can’t help but root for him now lol. It’s a shame cuz I thought Teo was the real deal I’m not scared of nobody fighter, but he acting like a hoe

He's a technical fighter he's harder to beat then fighters that will come forward like a Loma tank etc. With Haney as he gets older and better he's going to be significantly hard to beat. He has height speed and reach on top of defense. He might not have top tier power but he absolutely can make you think about rushing into him, I'd bet on him to beat everyone at 135 because of that. Teo or Ryan doesn't want to have to think, they want someone who will just rush up on them. Devins ring IQ is high for being only 22. If I'm him it's fukk them I'd just run through linares comey and fortuana this year and move up.