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Undersized but just somehow casually picked up a few belts in the Division?
Who should be ranked higher P4P: Errol Spence or Teofimo Lopez?
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Bigblackted4
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Better wins better would win at 135 if they fought. Started at 126 and still able to put guys down at 147 and able to hurt AB almost as bad as anybody has. Just as skilled in a different.
Bigblackted4
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He’s still undersized for the division just like Mikey is but he just beat Jesse Vargas ass at Welterweight. Loma got in when the division was at the worst it’s been at the top level in a while.Undersized but just somehow casually picked up a few belts in the Division?
Knicksman20
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Stop it bro. No one was saying this when he was getting W's. Teo makes dude look ordinary & all of the sudden he's too small? Dude even fought at this weight in the ammy's yet he's too small...lol
Dallas' 4 Eva
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Depends on how you want to look at it. Accomplishments wise they are about the same. If Spence fights Ugas and picks up his strap he will have a lot more quality wins under his belt than Teofimo, even though Teofimo has a better win(even if most of us never thought much of Loma, he was still a unified champ). Teofimo has 1 great win and 1 good win. Spence if he beats Ugas will have cleared out a whole damn division of prime fighters(Brook, Porter, Danny, Mikey, and Ugas if the fight happens which I'm 99% sure is his next fight now that he is the super champ) something not too many can say in boxing currently, he will oy need to fight Crawford and he will have cleaned out 147. Who else can say they have done that currently besides Usyk and maybe Joshua?
One has been more consistent, one has had a HUGE spike recently. Depends on if you want the hot topic or the consistency.
Or we can look at it like this, if they were the same size(and size wise realistically it could actually happen) if they both fought who would win: Spence or Teofimo? I think we all know the answer to that question too. Like I said P4P is kinda ridiculous at times, it makes you completely ignore common sense at times.
Also
at this Jermell Charlo slander. How did he not make adjustments in the second Harrison fight? He gassed Harrison out because he didn't try to fight him off the end of his jab and stayed in his chest and pressured him the whole second fight. How did he not make adjustments? 
One has been more consistent, one has had a HUGE spike recently. Depends on if you want the hot topic or the consistency.
Or we can look at it like this, if they were the same size(and size wise realistically it could actually happen) if they both fought who would win: Spence or Teofimo? I think we all know the answer to that question too. Like I said P4P is kinda ridiculous at times, it makes you completely ignore common sense at times.
Also
at this Jermell Charlo slander. How did he not make adjustments in the second Harrison fight? He gassed Harrison out because he didn't try to fight him off the end of his jab and stayed in his chest and pressured him the whole second fight. How did he not make adjustments? 
Also
Y'all can hype up the man who lost to Harrison if y'all want. I know I won't.
I don't understand how Golovkin can beat Jacobs, Derevychenko, and have two competitive fights against Canelo, and you shyt on him while singing praises for Mel. G is fasholy not struggling with a fighter with a shaky chin and prominent stamina issues like Harrison. If he did, he would've been lambasted and permanently erased from P4P consideration. Yet I see Charlo struggle twice against Harrison and I'm supposed to look the other way and rank him high. Yeah alright.
"He gassed Harrison out." Not exactly premium liquor, is it?
Dallas' 4 Eva
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Y'all can hype up the man who lost to Harrison if y'all want. I know I won't.
I don't understand how Golovkin can beat Jacobs, Derevychenko, and have two competitive fights against Canelo, and you shyt on him while singing praises for Mel. G is fasholy not struggling with a fighter with a shaky chin and prominent stamina issues like Harrison. If he did, he would've been lambasted and permanently erased from P4P consideration. Yet I see Charlo struggle twice against Harrison and I'm supposed to look the other way and rank him high. Yeah alright.
"He gassed Harrison out." Not exactly premium liquor, is it?
GGG struggled with Jacobs and Derevyanchenko, it's very arguable he lost those fights(especially Derevyanchenko I feel like he got a gift). Let's be honest here what has Derevyanchenko ever done to even be ranked above Harrison? At least when Harrison got a chance to get a belt he won it, even if it was controversial. Charlo aint ever had to get gifts against glorified gatekeepers my man.
And we shyt on GGG because he is a straight up bum basher. Waiting around on Canelo like a scorned hoe instead of fighting Andrade or Charlo.
Black_Jesus
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Spence being ranked #2 is bullshyt i couldn't even take the list seriously after that.. Even more hilarious watching dudes rate Spence v Mikey as some great win as if that was was 2 top 5 welterweights fighting each other
i couldn't even take the list seriously after that.. Even more hilarious watching dudes rate Spence v Mikey as some great win as if that was was 2 top 5 welterweights fighting each other
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Bigblackted4
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At the time no but once he dropped and had Jesse Vargas shook to throw that changed my mind. Also fukked AB and Lipinets up too.Spence being ranked #2 is bullshyt
Black_Jesus
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Lipinets ain’t nobody.. He didn’t fukk AB up.. AB bytch ass just don’t throw punches anymore since he left 135.. Jessie Vargas?
Really?
Bigblackted4
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He beat AB ass what you talking aboutLipinets ain’t nobody.. He didn’t fukk AB up.. AB bytch ass just don’t throw punches anymore since he left 135.. Jessie Vargas?
Black_Jesus
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okay breh
Dallas' 4 Eva
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Worst part about it was how many people was picking Mikey to win before the fight. I won $1000 betting on that fight. I remember Sugar Ray Leonard saying Mikey is a far superior boxer and will box circles around him. nikkas was just dead ass wrong and wanna downplay it now.
Bigblackted4
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People in this thread picked Mikey
