Who is the next leader of the Democratic Party?

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His military background is too problematic for me. Unless you have more things I can use on him to make the republican smear campaign easier.
 

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Why folks keep avoiding this obvious debacle for him blows my mind

A lot can happen in 2-4 years. If he can demonstrate California's ability to resist the worst of the Trump Administration, and also make California better (reduce crime, homelessness, cost of living) then he'll have an excellent resume hearing into the primaries and disqualify Kamala's bum ass from even thinking of running for governor :mjlol:
 

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A lot can happen in 2-4 years. If he can demonstrate California's ability to resist the worst of the Trump Administration, and also make California better (reduce crime, homelessness, cost of living) then he'll have an excellent resume hearing into the primaries and disqualify Kamala's bum ass from even thinking of running for governor :mjlol:

He has
- high taxes
- residents leaving
- high costs of living
- companies leaving

And the state is the shyt too. It's beautiful and world-class cities and shyts on 90% of places in America.

The image of him is baked in man.
 

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He has
- high taxes
- residents leaving
- high costs of living
- companies leaving

And the state is the shyt too. It's beautiful and world-class cities and shyts on 90% of places in America.

The image of him is baked in man.

All that is true now, and if that image doesn't change in 2-4 years then yeah he's not the best candidate to put forward. Especially for the "mid" wing of the party
 

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Chris Murphy is someone that I've had my eye on for a while now as a potential Presidential candidate. Really knowledgeable about foreign policy, thoughtful, etc.

For the posters that are further on the left, I would guess Murphy is a bit much of a centrist/too establishment for you to support his full platform. But I'm curious about your thoughts on how he speaks about the adoption of neo-liberalism by Democrats and says that the changes implemented under the Biden Administration were positive but not fundamental/structural. What do you think specifically of his economic message?

The interview I'm referencing is at the end of the latest "Pod Save the World" Episode (linked below)

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I like his message but I don’t think he has the “look” to be taken serious as a Presidential candidate.

Very shallow but as we know most Americans are very shallow when they vote.

I think it’ll be Beshear. He was my first pick as VP. If he picks a populist VP the think it would unite the party.

If AOC is old enough she would be a great choice for his VP
 

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Instead of worrying about the next white savior like this is Dune, Dems are gonna have to work till the midterms to completely shift the countries perception of the party. All the good they've done is gonna be wiped out because their prior leader and President had a level of hubris only told in Greek legends.

We could get a massive shift back towards the left if the Dems can properly stratigize off Trump's blunders. I'm not sure if Schumer and Jefferies are up to the task. It's gonna take some playing dirty and getting it out the mud and I feel they'd rather just raise a lot of money and let the chips fall where they may :francis:
But if they're ready to go gloves off for once there's hope.

A true leader will arise during the primaries but there's much to do before hand so they have something to actually lead.
 

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I like Beshear on paper. But, after seeing some of his media hits. He's going to need to polish up for a national run. I really would prefer him to take the Turtles seat. Getting a Dem to hold a Senate seat in a red state that isn't fence straddler like Manchin is going to be clutch in the future.

I'm leaning towards Pritzker. Middle of the country, fiery guy. Talks the shyt and backs it up. Independently wealthy, seemingly a solid Governor. I think he checks all the needed boxes. Pair him with a Newsom or Wes Moore and it's a fairly strong top of the ticket. But, Newsom will never want to be a VP.


Feel like Whitmer is stuck as a VP or some kind of party head as a future. Country clearly ain't voting a woman in the top spot. Pete's probably also ceiling out as a VP/Senator. If not in a cabinet seat again.
 

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I like Beshear on paper. But, after seeing some of his media hits. He's going to need to polish up for a national run. I really would prefer him to take the Turtles seat. Getting a Dem to hold a Senate seat in a red state that isn't fence straddler like Manchin is going to be clutch in the future.

I'm leaning towards Pritzker. Middle of the country, fiery guy. Talks the shyt and backs it up. Independently wealthy, seemingly a solid Governor. I think he checks all the needed boxes. Pair him with a Newsom or Wes Moore and it's a fairly strong top of the ticket. But, Newsom will never want to be a VP.


Feel like Whitmer is stuck as a VP or some kind of party head as a future. Country clearly ain't voting a woman in the top spot. Pete's probably also ceiling out as a VP/Senator. If not in a cabinet seat again.
JB would make sense but he wouldn’t have a cult that would be able to excuse his obesity like the orange felon. 2028 would be full of excuses back to we need to see his medical records could he make it 4 years full of stress etc
 
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