Who Is John The Baptist in ISLAM?

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pick up a dictionary & fill the well drop by drop

& even then that's murky

start your own language from 0 & refer only to what you have proven/tested

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So the sons of noah are:

Ham (Black)
Shem (The Name)
Japeth (Beauty)

So lets see, Ham-Mayim was described as the deep (black water) and the wind of God went over it when God made the heaven and the earth.

So with a little abstraction, God used Ink, Gold and Beautiful numbers to fashion a new world

But from your perspective, you believe an english dictionary is where you will bathe and drink and meditate on. Sounds like high school detention to me

I did have detention with the dance team once, I might do that :noah:
 

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back on the thread topic, this is a hadith on John in Islam (Yahya the son of Zechariah)

:jbhmm: @Marks whenever I read anything from hadith or quran, it is as if the character is seized up and words are placed in his mouth

such that I either have to trust him who put the words in his mouth or trust another who put a word in his mouth

It seems to me, that the nature of having a word put in your mouth is a big part of both doctrines yet it is uncertain to me to discern from where the words came or why it is needed to be placed?
It's sort of a very old idea right, that we are or can be vessels (puppets?) for god's will. Maybe it can seem forced, maybe part of religious practice is synchronize personal will with god's will?
 
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Rock worship/moon worship that originated in Petra ancient practices



You can trace the moon god all through time, from early Mesopotamia to the Sumerians. When the Israelites came out of Egypt, God met Moses on Mount Sinai which was for people in Canaan the mountain of the moon god "Sin"(pronounced "seen"). At the time of the month when the moon god was supposed to be at his strongest.

Jericho was a city where the main god worshipped was the moon god. The tradition for the moon god was to have an akitu festival where the people marched from the akitu house outside the city into the city temple for the moon god. Well GOD had the Israelites march around Jericho and blow the shofar until the walls came down.

The moon god is still being worshipped in the world today as we can see through the crescent moon symbols on display.
 
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It's sort of a very old idea right, that we are or can be vessels (puppets?) for god's will. Maybe it can seem forced, maybe part of religious practice is synchronize personal will with god's will?
yeah...but what is weird is when you bring in ideas of spirits/daemons

so as the believer you have to either fixate where you believe the source of gods will is or use other methods

its why as soon as I read more about Jacob and meditated on him that I started seeing different patterns that i normally didnt see

IE he calls Esau his brother, his lord in some places. Yet he told his father Isaac that "The Lord Your God brought the meal to him"

Further this conundrum pops up in one of the more testy passages (and arguably one of the oldest) The Song of Deborah where she remarks how YHWH came down from Seir (Esaus domain) and that noone came to his defense

All the while this is happening the tribes associated with Ishmael followed an almost inverse pattern. If Jews and Christians borrow so much from Jacob and Abraham, what source is causing the great separation? To me it must be Hagar
 
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So the sons of noah are:

Ham (Black)
Shem (The Name)
Japeth (Beauty)

So lets see, Ham-Mayim was described as the deep (black water) and the wind of God went over it when God made the heaven and the earth.

So with a little abstraction, God used Ink, Gold and Beautiful numbers to fashion a new world

But from your perspective, you believe an english dictionary is where you will bathe and drink and meditate on. Sounds like high school detention to me

I did have detention with the dance team once, I might do that :noah:
you bullshyte just like the preacher man ha*
 
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It's a symbol of Saturn
Actually you’re actually 100% correct. Where did you get the info from? :ehh:

Zuhal :whoo: to Hubal:ohhh:

The black stone was known as “saturns emblem” and was worshiped before Islam :wow:

Seems like a lot of Muslims practices/traditions and symbols originate from planet/star/moon worship from different cultures/pagan religions throughout history

It would make sense Islam would include an undercurrent which is a mix of centuries of Arab pagan religions and sell itself as a NEW Monotheism and Abrahamic religion in disguise

And of course it has to be directly opposed to Jesus and Christianity. I wonder why? :youngsabo:
 

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Vince was wilding on those roids!
 

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Everything and all things in the scriptures lead to Yeshua….

I gotta meditate more on the scriptures all the answers you’re looking for are in the words.
 
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John was a Levite, the priestly lineage of Israel. The Muslim religion has nothing to do with the Israelites of their religion. So how could Arabs speak on John?
 

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John was a Levite, the priestly lineage of Israel. The Muslim religion has nothing to do with the Israelites of their religion. So how could Arabs speak on John?

Ask yourself what is the “Muslim religion” then? What does it have to do with?
 
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