Who is a bigger mark for themselves and their own perceived greatness?

[Premeditated]

I came in just to say HHH but it looks like that's already taken care of.

 

[SuikodenII]

@ everyone choosing Triple H



I'm going with him as well

 

[Sypress]

Lets ask Chico, Razor ramon what he thinks



@ the end of the clip

 

[TheGreatShowtime]

Ric Flair

But Brets right behind him.

I was waiting until someone said Ric Flair. He's the answer, BY FAR.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Randall Orton.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

The thing was he originally didn't wanna lose to Shawn at all.. he said he'd drop it to anyone eelse but when Vince insisted it'd be Bret he needed Vince to compromise by not having it be in Canada which to me is fair considering Shawn disrespected the fukk out of him for years. Refused to lose to Bret at Mania 13 to return the favor for the Iron Man match. I don't blame Bret for not wanting to end his illustrious WWF Career by not only dropping the belt to someone who refused to have the courtesy to do the same, but to do it in front of fans who treated him as a patriot at the time considering it was during the US vs Canada feud.

This is just a bunch of b.s. Yeah, HBK was an immature dyck, but Hart is like 10 years older than him, and yet he was still acting just as immature. Bret was out the door, and Vince was trying to do what was best for his company, which was put the belt on his biggest heel in order to build towards Austin taking it. Hart dropping the title to anyone else wouldnt have made sense, and would have fcked things up. That belt is not Bret's, and the company shouldnt be held hostage because he's all hung up on some teenage drama feud backstage. Bret could have shown the world just how much more of a pro he is than HBK. He didnt.

wow..warrior DEFINITELY has a place in this conversation. dude LEGALLY CHANGED HIS NAME TO WARRIOR

I think hes more certifiably insane than mark for himself. Steroids fcked that dude's brain.

 

[TrueEpic08]

The thing was he originally didn't wanna lose to Shawn at all.. he said he'd drop it to anyone eelse but when Vince insisted it'd be Bret he needed Vince to compromise by not having it be in Canada which to me is fair considering Shawn disrespected the fukk out of him for years. Refused to lose to Bret at Mania 13 to return the favor for the Iron Man match. I don't blame Bret for not wanting to end his illustrious WWF Career by not only dropping the belt to someone who refused to have the courtesy to do the same, but to do it in front of fans who treated him as a patriot at the time considering it was during the US vs Canada feud.

As for Bret being a mark for himself, that's an unarguable fact. You can tell he loves talking about his career. He always goes on about being proud of never hurting anyone in the ring, and how it always looked real at the same time. But you never get an egomaniacal vibe from Bret, nor has he ever tried to hold others down and put his friends on. Plus he doesn't come across as a dikk like Punk or Hogan

Not only that, but even after the whole "Lost My Smile" exaggerated knee injury thing happened, Bret was STILL willing to do the job. As a matter of fact, he told Shawn to his face that he would do so. And Shawn replied by saying that he wouldn't do the same. Basically spitting in his face. No chance that I would job to somebody that did that to me.

Another thing people don't understand: Bret still had a month on his deal. He could've dropped it to anyone else, then had that person transition the belt onto Shawn. The screwjob was completely unnecessary and caused by Shawn's inability to be a professional in front of a professional.

With that said, as a Bret defender, he is a GIGANTIC mark for himself. But not in a malicious way, and not to the detriment of others, like Hunter tends to be.

Aight, you got this one.....only because I can't think of an instance where Nash acted like he was somehow more important to wrestling history than anyone else

Or this a$$hole Kevin Nash.

Read this: Wrestling star Kevin Nash is making headway in Hollywood, but something still keeps him up at night - Grantland

Specifically footnote 13 and the paragraph immediately preceding it.

Isn't it amazing that I dragged the belt to the ring, had the glass break? They took everything that worked, revved it up after I told them the basic premise of the future champion, and they gave it to Steve. He took it to heights that I couldn't take it to. He took what I blueprinted. Was there any difference between Diesel's entrance and Steve's? Same glass break.

In Nash's mind, ECW, Superstar Steve Austin, and The Sandman didn't exist, apparently. Nash seems like a cool guy away from wrestling, but he's way up his own ass at times.

 

[TheGreatShowtime]

Not only that, but even after the whole "Lost My Smile" exaggerated knee injury thing happened, Bret was STILL willing to do the job. As a matter of fact, he told Shawn to his face that he would do so. And Shawn replied by saying that he wouldn't do the same. Basically spitting in his face. No chance that I would job to somebody that did that to me.

Another thing people don't understand: Bret still had a month on his deal. He could've dropped it to anyone else, then had that person transition the belt onto Shawn. The screwjob was completely unnecessary and caused by Shawn's inability to be a professional in front of a professional.

With that said, as a Bret defender, he is a GIGANTIC mark for himself. But not in a malicious way, and not to the detriment of others, like Hunter tends to be.



Or this a$$hole Kevin Nash.

Read this: Wrestling star Kevin Nash is making headway in Hollywood, but something still keeps him up at night - Grantland

Specifically footnote 13 and the paragraph immediately preceding it.



In Nash's mind, ECW, Superstar Steve Austin, and The Sandman didn't exist, apparently. Nash seems like a cool guy away from wrestling, but he's way up his own ass at times.

Post of the year candidate

 

[StatUS]

Not only that, but even after the whole "Lost My Smile" exaggerated knee injury thing happened, Bret was STILL willing to do the job. As a matter of fact, he told Shawn to his face that he would do so. And Shawn replied by saying that he wouldn't do the same. Basically spitting in his face. No chance that I would job to somebody that did that to me.

Another thing people don't understand: Bret still had a month on his deal. He could've dropped it to anyone else, then had that person transition the belt onto Shawn. The screwjob was completely unnecessary and caused by Shawn's inability to be a professional in front of a professional.

With that said, as a Bret defender, he is a GIGANTIC mark for himself. But not in a malicious way, and not to the detriment of others, like Hunter tends to be.



Or this a$$hole Kevin Nash.

Read this: Wrestling star Kevin Nash is making headway in Hollywood, but something still keeps him up at night - Grantland

Specifically footnote 13 and the paragraph immediately preceding it.



In Nash's mind, ECW, Superstar Steve Austin, and The Sandman didn't exist, apparently. Nash seems like a cool guy away from wrestling, but he's way up his own ass at times.

Preach

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

its theeee game-ahhhhhhh

 

[ATearInMyEye]

Threadstarter always starts threads that gets "Cheap Heat" yet complains about it

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

Threadstarter always starts threads that gets "Cheap Heat" yet complains about it

You don't exist to me

 

[ATearInMyEye]

I was waiting until someone said Ric Flair. He's the answer, BY FAR.

Really, Richard Fliehr, the man who basically put wrestling on the map before Ho Kogan?

 

[krackdagawd]

Real, generational legends don't need to self high five

TSC is obviously run by the Kliq

 

[The Antagonist]

This is just a bunch of b.s. Yeah, HBK was an immature dyck, but Hart is like 10 years older than him, and yet he was still acting just as immature. Bret was out the door, and Vince was trying to do what was best for his company, which was put the belt on his biggest heel in order to build towards Austin taking it. Hart dropping the title to anyone else. Evenfef wouldnt have made sense, and would have fcked things up. That belt is not Bret's, and the company shouldnt be held hostage because he's all hung up on some teenage drama feud backstage. Bret could have shown the world just how much more of a pro he is than HBK. He didnt.



I think hes more certifiably insane than mark for himself. Steroids fcked that dude's brain.

If vince wanted to do what's best for the company he would've never put up with Shawn's drug addict ass, politicking backstage, faking injuries, refusing to lose to Vader, halting Bam Bam's push. He would've fired his ass if he had the company's best interest in hand. Shaw was a great worker but he was never a great draw. I understand he was all he had at the time to be the top main eventer, but that behavior should be grounds for termination