"Who are the Knicks? Brunson, Brunson and some other Knickas" " - Official '23 NYK Offseason Thread

[Peter Popoff]

Yeah as far as I'm concerned everybody but Brunson can be had if the price is right.

And Hart, nıgga scrappy and solid backcourt.

 

[Peter Popoff]

All I know if Randle still here next season..... there's gonna be some troooouuubbbllee....trouble...

 

[Lurk Angle]

The Wolves aren’t in any position to spend much money anymore.

4/224 million to KAT (starting now)
5/205 million to Gobert (in year 2)
Anthony Edwards Max extension incoming
Jaden McDaniels extension incoming

Yep that’s why they gonna prob end up trading Kat or gobert to free up space

Naz reid would be a good get tho he cheaper

 

[ISO]

I think he'd be fine in drop coverage, but I'm also assuming we'd be looking to move Randle and clean up rotations. If you have Grimes/George on the wings, then the perimeter defense should hold up nicely and Jonas can focus on dropping and rim protection.

Pass the spliff this definitely won’t happen

 

[ISO]

I think Knicks should go after Naz Reid. He's the perfect Center to pair with Randle. I would give up Jericho Sims and 2 picks for Naz Reid

Naz Reid is a free agent and one of my targets. I doubt we’ll get him though.

 

[ISO]

these dudes are acting like we didn't see burks play here for numerous years lmao
Good player, but absolutely no reason to run it back with him.

Leave him and KP's monkey ass in the past. Lets do a real upgrade and stop living in the past.

And if you dont think Thibs would play him Burkes at point again...then lmao

Yeah we saw him here he was a good Knick.

Among the shooters available in FA he is among the best and would be more cost friendly with some familiarity already with our cast.

Thibs wouldn’t play him at point guard anymore because we have Jalen Brunson now and he has more trust in Quickley. Again he was never a true PG…he was just a floor spacer with ball handling responsibilities to help Randle who was the offensive engine/power guard/point forward.

 

[RickyGQ]

No offense but KP being a bytch ain't got nothing to do with how he plays on the court, and by all metrics he was top 25-30 player this year. He's a clear upgrade at C an fills a dire need with shooting and spacing. If you don't want him signed because you don't like him that's fair, but the man is dumb nice. KP would be the second best player here and he was the best player in Washington this year easily. Also, his injury history is something that will likely be priced into his next contract, and if it isn't, don't sign him. I'm advocating for KP coming back under the premise he'll be less costly than other options, I'm not saying he's a must sign.

And Burks brings some shooting and secondary playmaking, we need both. Yeah it'd be nice we had a lot of better options to chose from but who's out there? We can't swing for the fences if there's no ball to hit.



I could see that happening actually.

I’m going to keep pushing back on this KP is better than Mitch narrative. He absolutely fits this roster better, but Mitch was a KEY part of us getting to the second round. You can’t throw him away because he got hoed by Bam when Bam is dumb nice and does that shyt to everyone.

 

[ISO]

But we must keep the same energy. The playoffs are the only thing that matters in the NBA. They mock teams that do great in the regular season and fail in the playoffs. Your whole concept doesn't even make sense. Folks were killing both Randle and RJ after that Hawks series loss in 2021 and it was their first playoff series ever. RJ was only 20 and expected more from him.

Grimes averaged 4 points in the playoffs. While shooting miserably. And sense both teams were doubling on Brunson and RJ meant when he did shoot he was very open but still shot 17% from 3 and what 26% overall. He's suppose to be the 3 and D guy and the worst 3 guy on the team when it needed most.

Grimes was a second year player dealing with injury in his first ever playoffs in a role where he took 5 shots a game.

It’s a bit over a handful of games and he wasn’t knocking down catch and shoots. We know bro is a high level shooter no point in overreacting.

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

I’m going to keep pushing back on this KP is better than Mitch narrative. He absolutely fits this roster better, but Mitch was a KEY part of us getting to the second round. You can’t throw him away because he got hoed by Bam when Bam is dumb nice and does that shyt to everyone.

This is a tough one because in theory you’re right. Mitch was an important factor in reaching the second round but also Cleveland was playing 2 vs 5 on offense.

If Cleveland were able to get any offensive output from their frontcourt of Okoro, Mobley and Allen this is a completely different series.

Again I agree with you that Mitch was helpful for us but to advance further you need more three point shooting.

 

[ISO]

I’m going to keep pushing back on this KP is better than Mitch narrative. He absolutely fits this roster better, but Mitch was a KEY part of us getting to the second round. You can’t throw him away because he got hoed by Bam when Bam is dumb nice and does that shyt to everyone.

Mitch is key but we can’t have that dude complaining about his role and posting shyt on social media dude is an odd character

He’s very good in his limited role and on a value contract

With sometimes shooters who like getting into the paint like Randle and Barrett who the franchise is totally committed to it might be a good idea to move towards a more shooting big man

 

[seemorecizzy]

Yeah we saw him here he was a good Knick.

Among the shooters available in FA he is among the best and would be more cost friendly with some familiarity already with our cast.

Thibs wouldn’t play him at point guard anymore because we have Jalen Brunson now and he has more trust in Quickley. Again he was never a true PG…he was just a floor spacer with ball handling responsibilities to help Randle who was the offensive engine/power guard/point forward.

if either of em misses a game for any reason, Burke is playin the point.

 

[seemorecizzy]

I’m going to keep pushing back on this KP is better than Mitch narrative. He absolutely fits this roster better, but Mitch was a KEY part of us getting to the second round. You can’t throw him away because he got hoed by Bam when Bam is dumb nice and does that shyt to everyone.

Mitch got outplayed by a better and more experienced player. It is what it is, mayb if randle stepped up Mitch wouldn't of looked so bad.

He woulda looked a lot better in this Boston series.

KP is a bytch, I'll roll with Mitch over him any day of da week.

 

[RickyGQ]

He does all he work of a classic big, but can operate further from the basket. He'll shoot open looks from deep, gives you around 2.5 apg per-36, has the size to protect the middle, and he doesn't shy from physicality. You get the floor spacing and the size only five years younger than Brook.

Can he really space the floor or is he a hypothetical shooter like iHart

 

[ISO]

Can he really space the floor or is he a hypothetical shooter like iHart

About league average % in the RS on low volume and only has one hot spot which is at the top of the key shot hasn’t fallen in the playoffs and has a flat footed set type shot

That three ball is not to be relied on

Not the guy you want to pair with Randle defensively and could be targeted in the P&R in a hypothetical 7 game playoff series

 

[Wargames]

This is a tough one because in theory you’re right. Mitch was an important factor in reaching the second round but also Cleveland was playing 2 vs 5 on offense.

If Cleveland were able to get any offensive output from their frontcourt of Okoro, Mobley and Allen this is a completely different series.

Again I agree with you that Mitch was helpful for us but to advance further you need more three point shooting.

I honestly think we need the whole damn team shooting threes better, a center definitely helps, but the zone isn’t fixed with just adding a single shooter.



They can effectively run a man defense on a single shooter and zone everyone else. It’s kind of like how ICE isn’t good against the Knicks because we have three guys who are above average at attacking the basket.