White People Didn't Steal Rock.

IllmaticDelta

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can you recommend me some more good black rock n roll artist from the 50s??


Depends what you're looking for. More electric blues type stuff, jump blues, horn based or organ/piano type stuff?

This Bill Doggett classic was like the early guitar hero type song of early Rock N Roll that everybody had to know how to play. It's the first Rock N Roll instrumental hit song.

 

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Rock came from the blues and the blues is black music....the earliest rock hits were songs that white artists directly stole from black artists and released as remakes and got the marketing push bc labels felt consumers would be more receptive to whites doing the music.....this thread is retarded, know your history man ....even if they jacked rockabilly as u claim it's still an offshoot of blues/country which was being done by predominantly black artists at the time...even the very term rock and roll was black ppl slang for fukkin
 

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.even if they jacked rockabilly as u claim it's still an offshoot of blues/country which was being done by predominantly black artists at the time...

Black people didn't really do Rockabilly but you're correct that was Blues rooted. For example

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This is a Rockabilly (blues + Country) version of basically the same song



...all oldschool Country music has Blues in it though because guitar based Country music is a white imitation of the Blues but with more nasal/twangy vocals.

Jimmy Rogers, the "Father Of Country" music was basically a Blues musician

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Almost all of the early Country pioneers (Carter Family, Jimmie Rogers, Hank Williams to name a few) claimed to have learned the guitar/blues music directly or indirectly from black musicians. Roscoe Holcomb, claimed he was taught the guitar by a black man and you can hear the blues in his guitar playing but his vocals are pure nasal, country twang.

 

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Elvis got his stage act and swag from this guy...

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Wyonnie Harris

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nah, not all of it. maybe some of it.

Elvis was a chuck berry fan, and often tried to emulate his style and stage presence.

not to mention Elvis would re-do chuck berry songs and they both were from the same era

Presley’s first studio recording of a Chuck Berry song was an informal one. During the legendary “Million-Dollar Quartet” session at Sam Phillips’s Sun Records studio on December 4, 1956, Elvis sang three segments of “Brown-Eyed Handsome Man,” a recently released Berry single on Chess Records.

It wasn’t until seven years later that Elvis finally formally recorded a Chuck Berry tune. In RCA’s Nashville studio on May 27, 1963, he recorded Berry’s “Memphis, Tennessee.” Jorgensen states that Elvis had the song in mind for his next single. That’s probably why Elvis returned to the studio again on January 12, 1964, to record the song again. ”
 

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Breh the difference is hip-hop has never denied using sampling to create something new. Led Zepplien the Rolling stones and there fans act as if they created new music of thin air

And? The Rolling Stones and most rock bands gave their props to black artists. And if we're gonna be real, white fans know more about the black artists posted in this thread than the average black person. Go find me a black kid who knows about John Lee Hooker, whereas you can go to a cac highschool and find white kids who love that shyt and are learning how to play it.


Stones, Beatles, even Elvis, etc treated black artists like 90s rappers treated 80s rappers: with the utmost respect.
 

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And? The Rolling Stones and most rock bands gave their props to black artists. And if we're gonna be real, white fans know more about the black artists posted in this thread than the average black person.

That doesn't help your argument.
 

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That doesn't help your argument.

And why is that. If the argument is that white fans love the Stones/Zep/Elvis etc while pretending like they created rock, your argument is invalid considering those same white people love Muddy Waters/JLH/etc.

Music doesn't belong to anyone exclusively for christs sake. The British Invasion was inspired by black American music, everyone knows that. But it was also inspired by other forms of American music, including Appalachian - which is basically cac music.

BTW who created metal?
 

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And why is that. If the argument is that white fans love the Stones/Zep/Elvis etc while pretending like they created rock, your argument is invalid considering those same white people love Muddy Waters/JLH/etc.

Music doesn't belong to anyone exclusively for christs sake. The British Invasion was inspired by black American music, everyone knows that. But it was also inspired by other forms of American music, including Appalachian - which is basically cac music.

BTW who created metal?

:snoop:
 

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And why is that. If the argument is that white fans love the Stones/Zep/Elvis etc while pretending like they created rock, your argument is invalid considering those same white people love Muddy Waters/JLH/etc.

Blues is/was a regional music so a black person from regions where Blues dominated (Mississippi, Texas, Louisianna etc.) would know more about it than a black person from, let's say, New York.

Music doesn't belong to anyone exclusively for christs sake. The British Invasion was inspired by black American music, everyone knows that. But it was also inspired by other forms of American music, including Appalachian - which is basically cac music.

Appalachian music had very little impact on the British Invasian.

BTW who created metal?

You know where Metal's roots are in, right?
 

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nah, not all of it. maybe some of it.

Elvis was a chuck berry fan, and often tried to emulate his style and stage presence.

not to mention Elvis would re-do chuck berry songs and they both were from the same era

Presley’s first studio recording of a Chuck Berry song was an informal one. During the legendary “Million-Dollar Quartet” session at Sam Phillips’s Sun Records studio on December 4, 1956, Elvis sang three segments of “Brown-Eyed Handsome Man,” a recently released Berry single on Chess Records.

It wasn’t until seven years later that Elvis finally formally recorded a Chuck Berry tune. In RCA’s Nashville studio on May 27, 1963, he recorded Berry’s “Memphis, Tennessee.” Jorgensen states that Elvis had the song in mind for his next single. That’s probably why Elvis returned to the studio again on January 12, 1964, to record the song again. ”


He was def a fan of Chuck but his swag was different. Elvis sold sex appeal whereas Chuck made songs that spoke for the teenage crowd. Wyonnie Harris and Jackie Wilson had the sex appeal part in their styles.
 

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"Godmother of Rock n Roll", Rosetta Thorpe was doing Rockish things (she actually played a mixture of Gospel and Blues) in the 1930's and was cited as an influence by the likes of Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Johnny Cash, Elvis and Bob Dylan:ehh:


aint gonna lie that was pretty badass
 
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