White People Didn't Steal Rock.

[Gentle Jones]

and i fool with bob wills heavy

 

[IllmaticDelta]

i am referring specifically to fiddle and banjo music (a style which i am a big fan of)

That's called "Old Time" or String Band music. European fiddle and melody + African Banjo and Syncopation.

 

[USSInsiders]

It's a shame we can't, as humans, enjoy music made by other humans without squabbling over complexion. Good music is good music.

 

[UpAndComing]

To the OP

I'm surprised you didn't post this song



Yeah, seems white people created a whole new form of rock and roll alllllllll by themselves

 

[The Real]

It was never "black"..Whites stole rockabilly and that's where the confusion comes in. Rockabilly definitely influenced the British invasion but white people themselves innovated to what made it popular. Please someone show me where black people in mass were making the rock music we are referring to. You can't because we weren't making it. Big Joe Turner, Chuck Berry are rockabilly artists and that's where your Elvis' come from and Carl Perkins.

Hendrix had to leave and reintroduce himself. It's like Bob Marley. Eric Clapton introduced him to American audiences. Black people didn't get hip until Clapton made "I Shot the Sherriff"..

A scene from the new documentary, “Marley,” shows an all-white crowd gathered to watch Jamaican reggae artist Bob Marley perform in the U.S. in the late 1970s. Even though Marley was influenced by American rhythm and blues artists, his own music was slow to catch on with African-Americans during his lifetime.

“He had issue with it,” Marley’s son Ziggy Marley told “Nightline,” “because he wanted African-Americans to hear his message.”

Yeh your mom and pops might have put ya'll on Marley but they probably only got hip after Clapton introduced it. Black people were into soul and from there came funk and R&B..Our parents weren't listening to no Lou Reed, CCR. It was Stevie Wonder, O'Jays, etc.

Rockabilly is a subgenre of Rock and Roll. Chuck Berry and Joe Turner aren't Rockabilly, their rock and roll is closer to R&B. Elvis invented Rockabilly, then other White artists picked up on that sound, which was a country-leaning version of Rock and Roll. But the British artists weren't only influenced by Elvis. They were also influenced by Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Little Richard, and R&B like Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf, Buddy Guy, John Lee Hooker, and even country blues like Robert Johnson, Son House, Skip James, etc.

What Little Richard was playing, for example, was Rock and Roll,100%, but not remotely Rockabilly.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Rockabilly is a subgenre of Rock and Roll. Chuck Berry and Joe Turner aren't Rockabilly, their rock and roll is closer to R&B. Elvis invented Rockabilly, then other White artists picked up on that sound, which was a country-leaning version of Rock and Roll. But the British artists weren't only influenced by Elvis. They were also influenced by Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Little Richard, and R&B like Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf, Buddy Guy, John Lee Hooker, and even country blues like Robert Johnson, Son House, Skip James, etc.

What Little Richard was playing, for example, was Rock and Roll,100%, but not remotely Rockabilly.

100% on point. A couple of points

* 1) early Rock N Roll and Rockabilly was more based in R&B with the hard backbeat. Im talking people like Elvis, Little Richard, Fats Domino, Jerry Lee Lewis etc..

* 2) The more guitar based Rock N Roll is based on Urban Electric Blues and the older acoustic "country blues". Im talking people like Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Muddy Waters etc...

The Brits were influenced by both types but type #2 was the biggest influence w/o question since it layed the foundation for the modern Rock band setup (Muddy Waters) and is the true root of Rock guitar vocabulary. This is why the majority of the British Bands were called "Blues bands".

 

[NormanConnors]

Subs

 

[IllmaticDelta]

"Godmother of Rock n Roll", Rosetta Thorpe was doing Rockish things (she actually played a mixture of Gospel and Blues) in the 1930's and was cited as an influence by the likes of Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Johnny Cash, Elvis and Bob Dylan

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Boogie woogie was contributing factor in the creation of rock and roll

Boogie on the guitar

 

[The Bilingual Gringo]

fukkton of good YouTube links in here.

I've got some downloading to do tonight.

 

[JayGatsby]

are we gonna talk about white ppl stealing black ppls "underground" hits and making them mainstream "hits" n claiming the writing credits

 

[h2o_proof]

Fact is, we don't own anything, because it's not in our nature to exploit for profit. Those verbs and adjectives that we use to describe the sound coming through the speaker, be it Bee-Bop, Funk, Hip-Hop, Rock-N-Roll, or whatever, we never took ownership of. I don't know if it's a bad or a good thing, but left up to us, music would just be music. No legal description of the rhythm, style or tempo of the music needs to be translated into a possesive noun that is now classified as a "genre" in order for people to enjoy what they are hearing. Genre's serve no purpose other than to program and profit from programming.

Art vs Commerce always leaves me conflicted

 

[IllmaticDelta]

 

[cole phelps]

some 50s rock

 

[IllmaticDelta]

some 50s rock

^^He was a big influence on Jimi Hendrix. Another guy from the 40's/50's who you can hear in Hendrix is Lowman Pauling