Which nba star from the 90s or early 2000s do you think would be average in today's game?

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The issue with Bird was he got to fully develop and get polished in college. If Larry existed today, he would have left as a sophomore
Yes, same thing can be said for Tim Duncan.

Both guys were superstar level transformative players their first year in the NBA.

Even if he did leave college earlier, he probably would’ve been a fringe All-Star level player at the least.
 

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Because he works for the league dummy. Part of his job is to be an advocate not only for his team/players but for the league as a whole. I'm done even entertaining your bullshyt. I'm surprised I even argued over whether a guy who just retired in 2003 after playing 14 seasons on 5-6 championship teams with a career 45% 3point avg would be able to play in this analytics-driven specialized player league.

Y'all keep quoting/mentioning me, I'm clowning with insults and disrespect from now on.

Thats why you should just shut the fukk up. You talk too much without having understanding.

Kerr is a pr guy who advocates for the league. If the only ring you've got to contribute here is repeating some pr shyt Kerr said then just sit your little bytch ass down on the sideline and keep cheerleading waving pom poms.
2003 was 16 years ago nikka my god he didn’t just retire :mjlol:

Aight bro he just shytted on himself to make a P.R. statement why it couldn’t possibly be an honest statement from an elder statesmen who is still active in the game coaching
 

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you just compared ben fukin simmons to magic fukin johnson :mjlol:
Magic is obviously better, but Ben would be nasty in that era with just a post game and hook shot. He's honestly one of the players that would be better in the 90s.

Hell, Kobe and LeBron would average 30 easily back then.
 

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on 1.5 attempts a game :mjlol: it wasn’t even a part of the game back then. In today’s spacing and ball movement Bird would be a white KD
harden just averaged 36 ppg off free throws and ISO 3’s But Stockton and Bird would be bums
Bird sucked at ISO threes even in his own day. :francis:

I love how y'all will take something an old-school player did poorly and then just assume "but new era!" he'd magically not only add or to his game but be better than everyone actually doing it.

This gotta be the 10th guy I've heard would be James Harden in this era, but no one ever explains why there's only one James Harden in this era.
 

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You deliberately ignored the context. Conley's game is "unathletic" in the sense that he doesn't rely on athleticism. For damn near all of his career dude has led a slow paced half court inside out team. Point being that there's no denying that Stockton was athletic enough to have success in similar ways that Conley and the other guys that I named have been. All you're doing is trolling.
So you admit that that you can't name a single unathletic 6'0" pg who starred in this era and you're running with "every damn one of them being an elite athlete and 95% of the White Americans being gone" as just some random, inexplicable coincidence.
 

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So you admit that that you can't name a single unathletic 6'0" pg who starred in this era and you're running with "every damn one of them being an elite athlete and 95% of the White Americans being gone" as just some random, inexplicable coincidence.
White American players actually were alot better in previous era's

Jerry West, Bird, Bill Walton, Bobby Jones, Gail Goodrich, John Stockton, Mark Price, John Havlicek, Chris Mullen, Pistol Pete, Rick Barry

They dont even make sense when you compare them to the more recent white American players. It is inexplicable. The European whites for some inexplicable reason have been better then American whites for a few decades now, 2 decades in a row
 

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White American players actually were alot better in previous era's

Jerry West, Bird, Bill Walton, Bobby Jones, Gail Goodrich, John Stockton, Mark Price, John Havlicek, Chris Mullen, Pistol Pete, Rick Barry

They dont even make sense when you compare them to the more recent white American players. It is inexplicable. The European whites for some inexplicable reason have been better then American whites for a few decades now, 2 decades in a row
It's not inexplicable. Why do you think all the great white baseball players come from the era when baseball was segregated? Why are all the great White sprinters and running backs from that same era?

American whites could excel when the talent pool was weaker. But when every inner-city breh started getting opportunities to develop his talent from a young age, and every Euro started getting shots at the NBA, the talent pool tripled.

Go to any hick white state and you'll see some dominant white ballers. Put those same kids in an elite city- based basketball school and they're role players at best. That happens when you move from a small talent pool to a big one.

Y'all treating this shyt as inexplicable when the answer is in your face.
 
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So you admit that that you can't name a single unathletic 6'0" pg who starred in this era and you're running with "every damn one of them being an elite athlete and 95% of the White Americans being gone" as just some random, inexplicable coincidence.
I named several all star level point guards around stockton's size who's game doesn't rely on athleticism. The fact that all you can say to counter that is to talk about skin color, who their daddy was or what they did in some work out means you lost. You cant explain what guys like Lowry, Conley, and Paul do on the court athletically that Stockton wouldn't be able to do.
2003 was 16 years ago nikka my god he didn’t just retire :mjlol:

Aight bro he just shytted on himself to make a P.R. statement why it couldn’t possibly be an honest statement from an elder statesmen who is still active in the game coaching
It doesn't make any sense that's why. '03 wasn't that long ago and the league certainly hasn't advanced as much you Kerr and you want to pretend.

There's a reason that you and that other clown don't have real arguments. There's a reason that you ducked my post about steve Nash. Nash was back to back MVP in '05 and '06. Do you actually think that the league is advanced past the style of play that allowed a guy like Nash to dominate? I say that a guy like Nash would be just as good now as he was 15 years ago. Guys like Stockton and Nash would still eat in this era. Y'all don't have an argument outside of silly ass trolling.
 

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Stockton was a master of the pick n roll, could shoot the 3, handle, had elite court vision, and was pretty tough/durable for a scrawny lookin cac.

T.J. McConnell still making bread outchea, Stockton would eat in today’s league.

Mark Price was an elite shooter & use to pull up off the dribble he’d eat too
Yup Stockton would thrive in today league he made it in a rough and tough era
 

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@Rhakim thinks you have to be a great perimeter player to be great in todays game :mjlol:

I dont want to say Toronto is undeniable proof but they took and made alot more mid range shots then were used to seeing from other teams. And it worked too

Mike could average more then Harden without attempting a single 3, because of how great his mid range and post game were, and he would live at the free throw line
It is objective fact that rule changes in 06 helped perimeter players significantly.

This lady destroys these dudes argument so easily :mjlol:

Michael Jordan: Could He Really Score 50 with the Hand-Check Rule in Place?
 

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Ty Jerome is biracial breh

But Kyle Guy did get drafted

Could you imagine a white point guard winning a national title, Most Outstanding Player, All-American, playing in the McDonald’s game, winning Mr. Basketball for his state in the 80’s yet being drafted 55th overall :wow:

Ty Jerome ain’t biracial

His had is half white and his mom is white
 

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It is objective fact that rule changes in 06 helped perimeter players significantly.

This lady destroys these dudes argument so easily :mjlol:

Michael Jordan: Could He Really Score 50 with the Hand-Check Rule in Place?
I hate Michael Jordan stanleys with a passion. Everyone of them. The most stupid nikkas and bytches ever. MJ hated the zone defense. MJ would be great in any era but the zone defense is a nightmare for MJ and would require him like Giannis to develop a jumpshot which I don't believe he would have like Giannis. MJ would not average more than the usually top for today's scorers but the scouting and defensive schemes of today would not allow it.

MJ stans are the most stupid fukks in the world. Every single one.

He had weaknesses that would be a lot easier to exposes in 2019 that was extremely difficult to expose in 1996 or 1988 just due to the rules and players in place at that time
 
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