Which nba star from the 90s or early 2000s do you think would be average in today's game?

[Professor Emeritus]

bird would average at least 35 in this era

Bird was a 32% three-point shooter in the playoffs. He struggled with his three under defensive pressure. He would ball in this era but he wouldn't be the guy you make him out to be.

 

[ISO]

Yea Steve Kerr couldn't play in today's league but old ass Jose Calderon was still in the league last year.

Steve Kerr couldn't play in today's league but old no defense playing jj redikk just signed another 2 year deal.

Calderon is in the league based off his veteran status, he’s a guy getting picked up as a second and third point guard just for his experience, he was solid in his day.

Calderon is like Vince Carter, team hopping well past his prime, all teams need a veteran presence/mentor.

Redikk is a G.O.A.T. level shooter

Both Calderon and Redikk are much better players than Kerr actually.

 

[The Fire]

Bird was a 32% three-point shooter in the playoffs. He struggled with his three under defensive pressure. He would ball in this era but he wouldn't be the guy you make him out to be.

on 1.5 attempts a game it wasn’t even a part of the game back then. In today’s spacing and ball movement Bird would be a white KD
harden just averaged 36 ppg off free throws and ISO 3’s But Stockton and Bird would be bums

 

[The Fire]

I had a response about Stockton but it got deleted on my phone. I’m not even gonna continue this because y’all just wanna cherry pick stats for when it’s convenient. you can’t just take an older player for their face value, put them in todays game and assume they won’t be any different and won’t be more advanced than they were back in their age.

 

[Columbo]

@Rhakim thinks you have to be a great perimeter player to be great in todays game

I dont want to say Toronto is undeniable proof but they took and made alot more mid range shots then were used to seeing from other teams. And it worked too

Mike could average more then Harden without attempting a single 3, because of how great his mid range and post game were, and he would live at the free throw line

 

[Gravity]

You said that Mike Conley was unathletic and that John Stockton was just as athletic as him, I pointed out to you that Mike Conley is literally in the top 0.01% at least of most athletic people in the world, and you wanna take your ball and go home.

You deliberately ignored the context. Conley's game is "unathletic" in the sense that he doesn't rely on athleticism. For damn near all of his career dude has led a slow paced half court inside out team. Point being that there's no denying that Stockton was athletic enough to have success in similar ways that Conley and the other guys that I named have been. All you're doing is trolling.

Calderon is in the league based off his veteran status, he’s a guy getting picked up as a second and third point guard just for his experience, he was solid in his day.

Calderon is like Vince Carter, team hopping well past his prime, all teams need a veteran presence/mentor.

Redikk is a G.O.A.T. level shooter

Both Calderon and Redikk are much better players than Kerr actually.

Boy you kids are slow as fukk. The point was that if those guys can still play in today's game at their advanced ages then obviously a Steve Kerr who was a career 45% 3point shooter would have a spot in the league.

 

[ISO]

You deliberately ignored the context. Conley's game is "unathletic" in the sense that he doesn't rely on athleticism. For damn near all of his career dude has led a slow paced half court inside out team. Point being that there's no denying that Stockton was athletic enough to have success in similar ways that Conley and the other guys that I named have been. All you're doing is trolling.



Boy you kids are slow as fukk. The point was that if those guys can still play in today's game at their advanced ages then obviously a Steve Kerr who was a career 45% 3point shooter would have a spot in the league.

Nikka he was a 50th pick in 1988 he isn’t getting drafted today and he isn’t making the league

Calderon and J.J. are better players than fukking Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr was a reserve player his entire career. You tried to equate an utterly washed Calderon who is signed off veteran status as reason for Kerr playing today.

Jimmer isn’t on a team he’s far more talented than Kerr. Kerr said this why would he say it? Would you know more than him?

Also I already said Stockton would be good he just wouldn’t have the perception he had in his day

 

[ISO]

on 1.5 attempts a game it wasn’t even a part of the game back then. In today’s spacing and ball movement Bird would be a white KD
harden just averaged 36 ppg off free throws and ISO 3’s But Stockton and Bird would be bums

Harden putting up those numbers because of the system he plays in. Besides, his I.Q., ball handling skills, footwork, shooting ability are fukking elite. He is better than Stockton what are you getting at.

Bird would be great today

 

[#1 pick]

A lot of the bigs.
Most of the PGs and SGs who couldn't shoot

That's about it. The rest who were great still should be great

 

[The Fire]

Harden putting up those numbers because of the system he plays in. Besides, his I.Q., ball handling skills, footwork, shooting ability are fukking elite. He is better than Stockton what are you getting at.

Bird would be great today

I was talking about Bird but thanks for highlighting all the things Stockton is good at as well.

 

[#1 pick]

Youre wrong about Mark Price. He was the father of splitting the pick and roll plus could finish with either hand. He would eat today.

Mark Price is in the group that would be better in today's NBA. The game is made for his skill-set but it wasn't back then

 

[#1 pick]

This is another bad assessment. What made Barkley special was that he was a banger and a stretch 4. You act as is other 6’6 players were doing what he did at the time. That niqqa, even back then, was viewed as the biggest anomaly in the NBA. Hes still the biggest NBA outlier of damn near the last 50 years

Any outiler like Barkley would be great in any great era.

 

[#1 pick]

The current NBA era is tailor-made for Bird lol


@Rhakim
I definitely get the Clyde Drexler arguments tho. But dude had a elite quickness and although he had emphasis on driving right he was always effective off ball, had a great post up game, and was a good facilitator. Bum ass Wiggins can’t compare

That’s not the first time I’ve heard about his basketball IQ tho. OGs told me before those late 80’s early 90’s Trailblazers teams were immensely talented but really dumb.

The issue with Bird was he got to fully develop and get polished in college. If Larry existed today, he would have left as a sophomore

 

[#1 pick]

the thing is we can't say that if we are going to do this thread right. If we are going to take 80s- 90s legends, we are doing it with them having access to modern strength and conditioning.

not to mention most of them are way more mentally stronger then than now, you couldnt rely on the ref to bail you out.


GP would EAT. Look at all the defensive specialists now, hes bigger and more athletic than all of them

GP was one of the guys who got killed by the end of the hand check era and PnR era. While I love GP, his fall from grace in the modern era would be tragic

 

[ISO]

I was talking about Bird but thanks for highlighting all the things Stockton is good at as well.

Tbh I’m not disagreeing with you I told you Stockton would be good just not as good as he was in his era