Which Fighting Discipline Would The Most Useful In A Real Fight: Wrestling, Ju-Jitsu or Boxing?

which would be most useful in a real fight?

  • wrestling

    Votes: 14 18.7%
  • BJJ

    Votes: 18 24.0%
  • boxing

    Votes: 43 57.3%

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I'm not here to convince you of anything. Believe what you want.

Just know that you are wrong.
typical manchild responding like 3 year old, no facts, no insight just delusional denial, wrong about what everything I said was fact which is you can't respond
sheesh, if you're not able to have an adult conversation why even respond, put down your pom poms and look at reality
I don't have to believe, you are the one who is believing the myth of what has been marketed to you lmao, jiujitsu ain't shyt in japan and they invenetd it, boxing is the number one combat art in japan
you know why, because they use to have fights on the army bases no holds barred and the western boxers beat up all the martial artist so they had to learn boxing it had evolved into a science by time of world war 2
Sakuraba submitted all the gracies lmao and he's a wrestler lmao, Rickson was too scared to fight him and this is the same guy who would slap guys in brazils in front of their students to get them to fight him lmao
they all frauds, the shyt is a business they marketed bjj stands for basically just judo, and got you morons fooled
 

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typical manchild responding like 3 year old, no facts, no insight just delusional denial, wrong about what everything I said was fact which is you can't respond
sheesh, if you're not able to have an adult conversation why even respond, put down your pom poms and look at reality
I don't have to believe, you are the one who is believing the myth of what has been marketed to you lmao, jiujitsu ain't shyt in japan and they invenetd it, boxing is the number one combat art in japan
you know why, because they use to have fights on the army bases no holds barred and the western boxers beat up all the martial artist so they had to learn boxing it had evolved into a science by time of world war 2
Sakuraba submitted all the gracies lmao and he's a wrestler lmao, Rickson was too scared to fight him and this is the same guy who would slap guys in brazils in front of their students to get them to fight him lmao
they all frauds, the shyt is a business they marketed bjj stands for basically just judo, and got you morons fooled
You're not a clean person from the heart. You have to look yourself in the mirror and start there pal.

Dishonest people don't deserve a real reply, which is why you continue to hound me. You want something you don't deserve.

I demand you apologize to me, the posters in this thread and the entire sub-forum The Ring.
 
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You're not a clean person from the heart. You have to look yourself in the mirror and start there pal.

Dishonest people don't deserve a real reply, which is why you continue to hound me. You want something you don't deserve.

I demand you apologize to me, the posters in this thread and the entire sub-forum The Ring.

LMAO, what type of butt hurt shyt is shyt, you are a fukking clown, like now the truth comes out, another butt hurt roodie poo man child upset after the reveal of facts on a message board lmao, unbelievable wonder this country is on the brink of destruction
 

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LMAO, what type of butt hurt shyt is shyt, you are a fukking clown, like now the truth comes out, another butt hurt roodie poo man child upset after the reveal of facts on a message board lmao, unbelievable wonder this country is on the brink of destruction
There's no point arguing with you. You argue in bad faith.

You know the evidence points the other way. That's why you will shoot anything out, hoping something sticks.

Apologize, now.
 

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Muay Thai or boxing and a weapon art/skill like Kali.

I got no interest fighting anybody out in public but something like Muay Thai or boxing does help if you need to drop someone quick and get away before their friends rush in. An elbow is devastating.

If it's life and death, fukk a fair one, weapons all day and I'll look for anything that looks like it could be used as one. If you're trained with a weapon, it'd be a serious mistake for somebody to engage.

Kali I know is one of the only skills that will train to think of everyday objects as weapons.
I trained a bit of Kali sikaran.. shyt was useful af
 

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One On One.....It's Gracie Jujitsu, In a one on fight it's about survival and I'm trying to end this quick by crippling you or choking you out
 

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I'd say boxing and
Jiujitsu. Probably be best to keep the fight standing but if it went
to the ground you'd have something for them there. WrestlIng your taking them down, not where'd you wanna be.

If it's life or death though, vs a bigger stronger person, I think a jiujitsu guy has the best chance of survival.
 

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typical manchild responding like 3 year old, no facts, no insight just delusional denial, wrong about what everything I said was fact which is you can't respond
sheesh, if you're not able to have an adult conversation why even respond, put down your pom poms and look at reality
I don't have to believe, you are the one who is believing the myth of what has been marketed to you lmao, jiujitsu ain't shyt in japan and they invenetd it, boxing is the number one combat art in japan
you know why, because they use to have fights on the army bases no holds barred and the western boxers beat up all the martial artist so they had to learn boxing it had evolved into a science by time of world war 2
Sakuraba submitted all the gracies lmao and he's a wrestler lmao, Rickson was too scared to fight him and this is the same guy who would slap guys in brazils in front of their students to get them to fight him lmao
they all frauds, the shyt is a business they marketed bjj stands for basically just judo, and got you morons fooled
I thought Rickson turned down Sakuraba because his son died :jbhmm:
 
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I thought Rickson turned down Sakuraba because his son died :jbhmm:

his son dying made him stop fighting all together, he had plenty of chances to fight sakuraba prior to that, he ain't won't the smoke

the gracies are full of shyt, just like they said Helio was undefeated when Kimura beat his ass, then they tired to come up with these excuses like He knew he was going lose and he just wanted to test himself against the bigger master lmao, Kimura came to Brazil from Japan to accept his challenge they were so arrogant they brought a coffin saying this for Kimura

then kimura chokes him, only lets him go because he wouldn't tap and he didn't want to kill him, they continue the fight and he beats him again using the very same hold that is named after him
 

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his son dying made him stop fighting all together, he had plenty of chances to fight sakuraba prior to that, he ain't won't the smoke

the gracies are full of shyt, just like they said Helio was undefeated when Kimura beat his ass, then they tired to come up with these excuses like He knew he was going lose and he just wanted to test himself against the bigger master lmao, Kimura came to Brazil from Japan to accept his challenge they were so arrogant they brought a coffin saying this for Kimura

then kimura chokes him, only lets him go because he wouldn't tap and he didn't want to kill him, they continue the fight and he beats him again using the very same hold that is named after him
Yea the gracies tell a bunch of :duck:

The one about helio being frail and sickly and coming up with brazilian jiu jitsu moves to overcome bigger opponents:mjlol:

Whole bunch of fukkery in that family.
 

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I would say Boxing because you can learn the basics in a very short time and it would serve you immediately. I have been doing Judo and Kung Fu for years and I could admit I'm only ok at best which is to say proficiency at martial arts takes a real time investment and constant repetition before you can use it effectively in a street fight.
 

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Out of the choices given, assuming it's a 1-on-1 fight, probably BJJ. It's the only discipline where you can control how much or how little you want to hurt the person. You can simply hold them or go so far as killing them with many of the same techniques. Obviously, you are taking someone to the ground, and against multiple people this isn't a great idea. I would contend however, that no art or fighting style is great against multiple opponents. The best ides there is to run and ideally have a blade or a firearm. Boxing would be very useful against multiple attackers if you needed to engage.

I've done martial arts for 24 years (BJJ for the past 14 years, Wrestling for the past 5 years, Judo for 4 years in the 00's, boxing and Muay Thai for the past 3 years. Prior to those I was doing TMAs) and most of what people teach for "self defense" is garbage. Any style where you can compete is going to give you a massive edge because prepping for a fight or competitive situation and then going in and doing the thing against someone that isn't concerned about your safety is going to help prep you way better than learning some "self-defense based art" like Krav Maga.

Basically my thoughts on self defense (Time-coded to start and lasts 3 mins and 10 seconds)


Boxing cause it's good against more opponents, hit and run, in and out.

wrestling and grappling are cool but really you have to be occupied with only one person for those and if the friends of the opponent decide to join in you stuck in there with more people on you who will overwhelm you so it's a wrap.

That's absolutely a concern re: grappling, but I've always liked that you get to choose what level of damage or control you inflict. Obviously these types of cases are incredibly rare but an MMA guy with a boxing base in my city got jumped at a barn punched a guy in the eye, the guy's orbital bone broke into his eyeball and blinded him, and the guy that got jumped is now in prison serving some years for maiming and assault with intent to inflict serious bodily harm. Again, you gotta protect yourself first and worry about the law later, but it's a fukked up situation.

I think if someone is serious about self defense they need to be not looking down at their phone, keep good posture, don't fumble for your keys at your car or home door, don't look like a victim, be good at verbal de-escalation, be looking for where the are exits in buildings, sit facing the front door whenever possible in public, carry a gun or a blade and train with it, and be mentally and spiritually prepared to hurt or possibly kill someone if your life or the life of a loved one is in danger. And even then it may not be enough. Sometimes you're just gonna end up fukked. But preparing mentally and physically for those things are way more important for self defense IMHO than a single fighting discipline, because they all have weaknesses.
 
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now they didn't, look at the level of athletes in the early UFCS lmao, shyt was laughable, 52 year old Karate guy lmao

if Royce Gracie fought Roy Jones who would've got his head knocked off
The early UFCs did have a lot of really bad talent, but that's also kind of where martial arts was at the time. Royce's BJJ was pretty rudimentary in retrospect. There were some beasts back then though. Ken Shamrock, Oleg Taktarov, Kimo...there were some guys back then that knew how to fight and were athletes as well. But you're right there were a lot of scrubs too.
 
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