now they didn't, look at the level of athletes in the early UFCS lmao, shyt was laughable, 52 year old Karate guy lmao
if Royce Gracie fought Roy Jones who would've got his head knocked off
Which Fighting Discipline Would The Most Useful In A Real Fight: Wrestling, Ju-Jitsu or Boxing?
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now they didn't, look at the level of athletes in the early UFCS lmao, shyt was laughable, 52 year old Karate guy lmao
if Royce Gracie fought Roy Jones who would've got his head knocked off
But how many Roy Joneses are just walking the street? All those old karate guys from early UFC would still wash 80% of the human population in a 1v1. The average person hasn't even been in a fight, much less knows how to. Having any discipline would be helpful but 1v1, grappling is preferred. Multiple attackers, you'd want striking if not a mix.
how many royce gracie's are walking the street lmao, it takes longer to use martial arts than he does to learn how to box, which you can effective against most people in a matter of weeks just knowing how to throw a proper punch
the point I was making was Royce was the best representative of BJJ he was not going against the best muy thai, he was not going against the best boxer, he was not going against the best karate fighter, etc
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Idk exactly how long does it take for one to effectively use BJJ but agree w the bold part totally
A jab is good enough to beat up most people on the street after months of bjj you go out and try to use that shyt against somebody who really want smoke you are going to get beat up
this is the main reason why people think karate don't work, because somebody will be taking a character be a fukking green belt and get beat up because they haven't even mastered the basics let alone start learning how to fight
it takes a long time to be proficient at martial arts to where you can confidently use them against any opponent, its one thing using them on somebody who is weak and a push over in general, but this ain't the movies, you not gonna take bjj and in a few months go beat up your school bully lmao, but at least wth boxer you can learn how to punch fairly quickly, 90 percent of people can't defend themselves from proper snapping punches, so you would have a better chance of KOing the bully then putting a hold on him
You're free to believe what you want.
I mean, you are wrong, but you have the right to believe it.
Wrong about what, I stated facts, the best striker in the original UFC was a 52 karate guy who was Bruce Leroy from the last dragon's teacher lmao
no muy thai champions from thailand
no world class athletes really, I mean Tank Abbot was one of the type guys lmao
There were no weight classes, Evander Holyfield at the time would've folded everybody in that entire competition, just pull the videos its a glorified tough man competition lmao, there were no elite fighters in that shyt just look at the physical condition of them
besides roided up shamrock, all those guys looked like they came from the local ymca
Like I said, you can believe what you want. You're free to do so.
If you want to believe fighters that never fight outside their element would beat guys who take outside challenges for a career, you can do that.
If you want to believe that punching someone is more effective than submitting someone in a real fight scenario, you can do that.
The average person doesn't know how to fight, I agree with that. But 80% of all fight encounters turn into some kind of clinch or grappling situation. I think its more useful to have a grappling art if you had to choose.
And Royce was not the best BJJ representative, he was arguably the worst in his family. Rickson would have been the best choice but I get the point you are making
Judo. Throw somebody one time real good on concrete and that fight is over
Boxing and Muay Thai secondarily, so you can hold your own in punching/kicking distance, as you work your way in to flipping that motherfukker onto the concrete
I'm not trying to break my hand hittin some big motherfukker over the head
Boxing and Muay Thai secondarily, so you can hold your own in punching/kicking distance, as you work your way in to flipping that motherfukker onto the concrete
I'm not trying to break my hand hittin some big motherfukker over the head
Day to day most minimal training : boxing
If you are in constant conflicts & long term training : jitsu
Ideally : both
If you are in constant conflicts & long term training : jitsu
Ideally : both
Boxing, is the most practical if we talking the average person that isn't athletic or have any above average physical gifts. Learning the basic mechanics on how to punch, using basic footwork to evade, while getting accustomed to someone attacking you is priceless in learning self defense. Plus you can use it against multiple people or one on one. Small spaces or large areas.
but at the end of the day, its the individual that makes the style/discipline and not the other way around. For that reason I would never dismiss another discipline, but I will always recommend learning boxing first so you can get a proper striking foundation with your hands. After that I'd say wrestling next and then whatever after that.
but at the end of the day, its the individual that makes the style/discipline and not the other way around. For that reason I would never dismiss another discipline, but I will always recommend learning boxing first so you can get a proper striking foundation with your hands. After that I'd say wrestling next and then whatever after that.
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This happens day one in jiu jitsu.
Boxing you gotta crawl first, hit mits,cardio,footwork...no way you're gonna get a chance to spar without learning basics first in boxing.
I feel like boxing for longer term...
Depending on who's training you in boxing, that can happen day 1 as well. Of course they wouldn't go all out on you. There's mock boxing drills that can replicate striking way before you get into mitt routines, light sparring, hard sparring, etc...
With everything you gotta crawl first though. Looking to spar right away is the wrong mentality to have for any discipline.
I've trained in atemi ryu jiu jitsu and arnis for 2 years before I got into boxing and the sparring quality was definitely better in boxing. Most of the dudes in the previous discipline weren't throwing committed strikes and since you didn't shadow box in jiu jitsu, nikkas weren't getting to practice punching form and rhythm. Both focused on footwork real good tho.