Where's Mariota's white board with Marriucci?

[1ncognegro]

He "led" that team?

Look at Kaps stats in the playoffs and the SB breh he "LED" that team. Our defense let us down big time against the Ravens and Kap put the team on his back and put on a show. He just couldnt seal the deal because of horrendous play calling from his OC and Head Coach at the goal line

 

[WhoShotCha]

Remember the RG3 stanning?

This, too, will run it's course.

The reception and coverage of RG3 in college and that of Jameis is nothing alike though..

 

[WhoShotCha]

Lol @ people all of a sudden diminishing Kaep like he was "game managing" for the 9ers during their run.

Sure Kaep has now been figured out like all qb's of that yolk has, but before last year he was cooking.

I doubt Mariotta is even as successful as Kaep tbh

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

I'm not going to knock Mariota for not knowing the white board stuff.

He comes from a different system.

I didnt like when Gruden asked Cam to recall a play with a lot of verbiage......knowing his playbook didnt have a lot of verbiage.

 

[jadillac]

Does Mariota cycle through his reads and hit guys with anticipation on normal rhythm plays? - Yes.
Can he hit guys in stride and in tight windows? - Yes.
Does he ignore the rush and step up into his throws? - Yes.

I can assure you I know enough about football and QB'ing to know the kid is proficient. I've seen all 3 of those consistently since last season like I said. You throw RG3 under the bus, but honestly his failures in the NFL are on the Shanahan's not Bob. If Shanahan had taken his lumps like the Colts did with luck then RG3 would be further ahead than he is now. Mariota's not Peyton coming out of college, but to say it's all gimmick is bullshyt. You're claiming he failed based on playing in championship games. That's ridiculous.

ehhh, I don't see breh.

Not saying he CAN'T....but Oregon's system pretty much dtermines a pre-snap target. He probably can/does make one alternate read if the defense takes it away......but as far as sitting int he pocket and SCANNING the field left to right, I haven't seen it.

But Jameis does it, even Brett Hundley does it well.

 

[The Jewnited States]

Jamarcus had no issues with arm strength either

Mariota has no issues with the buffet and lean though

 

[jadillac]

Marriota kinda reminds me of Christian Ponder

I just dont see the hype

I'd take Bryce Petty over him in a heartbeat

Petty is a litttle underrated

But to my eyes, as a passer he's a better version of RGIII.

His only knock and it's a BIG one, is Baylor ran a one-read system. Snap the ball, one WR would go deep & the other 3 would basically do nothing. The positive is, he was incredibly accurate enough to still complete those passes. But he RARELY stood in the pocket for any length of time and made reads.

If he can do this, he has the physical tools for sure

 

[NYC Rebel]

Yeah, the credit goes to the quarterback whether deserving or not. Kaep was the piece that took them over the hump wsn't he?

No...the credit goes to common sense. No amount of credit does Samchez deserve for the Jets going to 2 straight AFC championships.

Let's not give credit to the undeserving.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

ehhh, I don't see breh.

Not saying he CAN'T....but Oregon's system pretty much dtermines a pre-snap target. He probably can/does make one alternate read if the defense takes it away......

Simply false. Oregon ran a ton of "package plays", where entirely different plays were going on at the same time, involving multiple parts of the field. This would lead to multiple different option plays on the same play - for instance, where Mariota would choose between keeping the ball or handing off, then chose between two different developing pass plays on different sides of the field. I agree that the nature wasn't that he often went past his second pass read after the run read, but every QB usually makes his decision by the 2nd read.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

They were under sanctions

And SC still put up 50. Its more than just offense.

USC's classes under sanctions were still much better than Oregon's classes, sanctions or not. And USC scoring 44 (they only got to 50 with a garbage-time TD on the final play) has nothing to do with whether USC had "figured out" Chip's offense.

So I ask again, what year did USC figure out Chip's offense? How can you use sanctions as an excuse if the offense was "figured out"???

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You are fukking stupid if you believe Mariota has tore up better defenses than Kap

Really?

Let's take a look at Kap's career against BCS schools and bowls:

Fr: Didn't really get on the field in the BCS games early in the year. Got shut out in the bowl game loss to end the year against...New Mexico

So: 19 on Texas Tech, 17 on Missouri, 35 in bowl game loss against Maryland

Jr: Shut out against Notre Dame, 21 on Missouri, 10 in the bowl game loss against SMU

Sr: 52 on Cal-Berkeley, 20 in the bowl game win against Boston College.

And's that his whole career outside of the Mountain West games and the such.


You're really going to compare that to Mariota averaging 40+ against the Pac-12 over three years, not to mention Kansas State (35), Texas (30), Virgina (59), Tennessee (59), Michigan State (46), and Florida State (59)? And in all those games but MSU, the scoring was pretty much over by the time the 4th quarter rolled around.

 

[lutha]

the only qb in the draft that's ready to start day 1 is winston....yea he has the physical tools and is intelligent, but another one of his qualities teams like is he ran a pro style offense at fsu....so the adjustment gonna be a lot easier for him.....the rest of them need to sit, watch, and learn if teams want them to be successful....they might have the physical tools and/or be intelligent, but they gonna need that time to adjust......the problem is that teams arent gonna do that, at least with mariota, cause of the hype around him, so he's gonna be forced to take over a team a lot sooner than he should....which is gonna end up hurting him....it'd be best for mariota if the hype started to go away from him and it got put all on winston....that way so much so early wouldnt be expected from him, but i doubt that happens, especially if he goes #2....

as for mariota: besides the eagles of course, he'd would be best going a system like andy reid runs...look what that system did for qbs like smith and garcia, and he can be better than both to me...

 

[Pesci]

You are fukking stupid if you believe Mariota has tore up better defenses than Kap

Kaepernick had a nice career at Nevada, but Mariota is one of the greatest college players of all-time.

I should probably just put this thread on ignore at this point

 

[CACtain Planet]

Kaepernick had a nice career at Nevada, but Mariota is one of the greatest college players of all-time.

I should probably just put this thread on ignore at this point

 

[Roland Coltrane]

You're so emotional. Jameis G Sanford will be a bust and no doubt catch a rape charge.

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