Where's Mariota's white board with Marriucci?

[Tony D'Amato]

peak caucasity

Im black, hoe n1gga

 

[calh45]

ehhh, I don't see breh.

Not saying he CAN'T....but Oregon's system pretty much dtermines a pre-snap target. He probably can/does make one alternate read if the defense takes it away......but as far as sitting int he pocket and SCANNING the field left to right, I haven't seen it.

But Jameis does it, even Brett Hundley does it well.

We gotta disagree on Hundley. He makes me grind my teeth when he plays.

 

[HearNoEvil]

Mariota is overhated at this points, but that's really only because for so long cacs were going hard at Jameis. It's like a karmic reversal or something.

But I agree with the OP, if Mariota has a whiteboard session out there, and they aren't sharing it with us, the media is protecting him.

 

[CACtain Planet]

Mariota is overhated at this points, but that's really only because for so long cacs were going hard at Jameis. It's like a karmic reversal or something.

But I agree with the OP, if Mariota has a whiteboard session out there, and they aren't sharing it with us, the media is protecting him.

yea thats the thing, CACs are billing these two as the top 2 picks in the draft and some have Mariota over Winston based strictly off of off-field issues yet we cant get a fair comparison of the two on that white board, but they quick to compare 40 times and vertical jumps ..Just seems to me these CACs done co-opted Mariota as their own in hopes that the Bucs dont make Winston the number 1 pick when in reality when looking at their full body of work on the field Winston is a cut above Mariota

 

[godkiller]

We gotta disagree on Hundley. He makes me grind my teeth when he plays.

I agree. Hundley is pitifully poor at consistently going through his reads, stepping up and making throws. He's basically EJ Manuel, which translates to a 4th/5th round developmental prospect.

 

[USSInsiders]

Actually, I thought it was from blowing out top-5 teams like Michigan State and Florida State. And I'm sure the top-10 UCLA team that they blew out and the other five top-25 Pac-12 teams are really "trash ass".

MSU, FSU, UCLA - combined 150 points scored on three top-10 teams, and the LOWEST score was against that "trash-ass", lower-rated Pac-12 team.

fukk all the numbers of points, that's such a terrible way to articulate how good a team is. Margin of victory doesn't take into account a lot of other shyt.

Michigan State was not the same this year and they were on the road that game. In control the entire game until they choked and Oregon made some phenomenal plays and tacked on a meaningless touchdown at the end to cover the spread and run the score up.

UCLA is mediocre as fukk and Oregon coming off the Arizona loss so it made sense for Oregon to bounce back and beat'em.

FSU was not that good they just got lucky as fukk all season and were riding off of momentum from last year, that's why they were ranked top four. Anybody watching their games knew this wasn't the same dominant team that was blowing people out last year. Their penchant for turnovers killed them because ORegon doesn't turn the ball over, or didn't, rather.

FSU fell behind all year but climbed back because other teams turned the ball over or couldn't turn them over in the second half.

FSU wasn't subbing people out fast enough on defense and got murdered by their tempo in the Rose bowl, also the turnovers killed them.

Other pac-12 teams: Stanford wasn't the same and was on the road, Utah catastrophically imploded and just about every other team isn't worth naming. It was Oregon's year and they took advantage of it, but they were a gimmicky team that padded Mariota's stats.

Washington State was one of the teams that played them well, but so what? Washington State was still a shytty team, sometimes weird things happen in games.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

fukk all the numbers of points, that's such a terrible way to articulate how good a team is. Margin of victory doesn't take into account a lot of other shyt.

Michigan State was not the same this year and they were on the road that game. In control the entire game until they choked and Oregon made some phenomenal plays and tacked on a meaningless touchdown at the end to cover the spread and run the score up.

UCLA is mediocre as fukk and Oregon coming off the Arizona loss so it made sense for Oregon to bounce back and beat'em.

FSU was not that good they just got lucky as fukk all season and were riding off of momentum from last year, that's why they were ranked top four. Anybody watching their games knew this wasn't the same dominant team that was blowing people out last year. Their penchant for turnovers killed them because ORegon doesn't turn the ball over, or didn't, rather.

FSU fell behind all year but climbed back because other teams turned the ball over or couldn't turn them over in the second half.

FSU wasn't subbing people out fast enough on defense and got murdered by their tempo in the Rose bowl, also the turnovers killed them.

Other pac-12 teams: Stanford wasn't the same and was on the road, Utah catastrophically imploded and just about every other team isn't worth naming. It was Oregon's year and they took advantage of it, but they were a gimmicky team that padded Mariota's stats.

Washington State was one of the teams that played them well, but so what? Washington State was still a shytty team, sometimes weird things happen in games.

Man, you really had to reach reach reach with that one.

No one number tells you how good a team is, but margin of victory (taking quality of opponent into consideration, of course) is a better indicator of a team's future success than any other number. A good team will build a big lead early and put their backups in early if they can. Getting huge 3rd-quarter leads against quality opponents is better than having to go deep into the 4th to beat those teams.

I just have to laugh at how hard you tried to dismiss the domination in the FSU game.

You just plain spouting bs about the MSU game - no one "ran up the score". Mariota took over with 8 minutes left and a 12-point lead, and executed a perfect 11-play, 6:31 minute drive to run out the clock and put the game away. That's not running up the score, that's perfect football. What did you expect him to do, kneel on it and give MSU the ball back down only 2 scores with a couple minutes left?

Oh, and Mariota was 18-27 for 318 yards and 3 TDs (no INTs) plus 42 yards on 9 carries on the ground, and turned a 27-18 3rd-quarter deficit into a 46-27 win on the strength of four straight 50+ yard TD drives. Don't act like that win was some luck or that Mariota wasn't impressive as hell in it.

And what do you mean MSU was not the same team this year? It was this year that they started #6 and this year that they finished #5 and this year that Oregon beat them down.

"mediocre" UCLA finished #10 in the nation with 4 top-25 wins, including KSU, Arizona, ASU, and USC. And they dominated ASU and USC. Besides Oregon, their only losses were a last-second FG to #21 Utah and a game they blew against #27 Stanford. Where do you get "mediocre" for a team that finished 10-3 against a schedule with 7 top-27 opponents?

Utah finished 9-4, won three of their last four after Oregon, including their bowl game, and finished #21. How you saying they imploded?

And the way you talk about the WSU/Arizona/UCLA games. Oregon was massive hurting in that stretch because they lost their RT, LT, backup RT, backup LG, and backup RG with injuries, and they were already weak at those positions after some early retirements and position switches over the last couple years. They started a true FR and a walk-on at the tackles for that stretch and had another FR as the main backup at guard/center, which is pretty much suicide. They got ONE guy back and they were fine again. Their struggles in that stretch had nothing to do with "weird things happen" and the improvement afterwards wasn't no "bounce back" after a loss.

 

[AITheAnswerAI]

I honestly don't get whats so special about remembering the play and drawing it. Mooch's sh1t was so basic. He drew a play that was no doubt in everybody's playbook, just had different verbiage.

Coaches don't want to have to explain the play to you before every practice or game...you're supposed to be a professional and know that shyt.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

And the other thing - most of the season Mariota was flirting with the all-time records for passing efficiency, QBR, and TD-INT ratio, despite having his o-line fall apart (later on lost his TE, center, and backup LT in addition to those earlier injuries), relying on a bunch of inexperienced underclassmen at WR, and playing a tough schedule from beginning to end. And he had already built up rep based on a three-year career that nearly hit the record for career passing efficiency and career QBR, not to mention a fantastic win-loss record and two big BCS bowl wins over top-5 teams. Media can't make up wins and numbers.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Coaches don't want to have to explain the play to you before every practice or game...you're supposed to be a professional and know that shyt.

Guarantee wherever he goes, the coach will have to repeat the play to him It happens to all of them. That whiteboard sh1t was not special for top propspects that cam from a pro style offense.

 

[USSInsiders]

Man, you really had to reach reach reach with that one.

No one number tells you how good a team is, but margin of victory (taking quality of opponent into consideration, of course) is a better indicator of a team's future success than any other number. A good team will build a big lead early and put their backups in early if they can. Getting huge 3rd-quarter leads against quality opponents is better than having to go deep into the 4th to beat those teams.

I just have to laugh at how hard you tried to dismiss the domination in the FSU game.

You just plain spouting bs about the MSU game - no one "ran up the score". Mariota took over with 8 minutes left and a 12-point lead, and executed a perfect 11-play, 6:31 minute drive to run out the clock and put the game away. That's not running up the score, moron, that's perfect football. What did you expect him to do, kneel on it and give MSU the ball back down only 2 scores with a couple minutes left?

Oh, and Mariota was 18-27 for 318 yards and 3 TDs (no INTs) plus 42 yards on 9 carries on the ground, and turned a 27-18 3rd-quarter deficit into a 46-27 win on the strength of four straight 50+ yard TD drives. Don't act like that win was some luck or that Mariota wasn't impressive as hell in it.

And what do you mean MSU was not the same team this year? It was this year that they started #6 and this year that they finished #5 and this year that Oregon beat them down.

"mediocre-as-fukk" UCLA finished #10 in the nation with 4 top-25 wins, including KSU, Arizona, ASU, and USC. And they dominated ASU and USC. Besides Oregon, their only losses were a last-second FG to #21 Utah and a game they blew against #27 Stanford. Where do you get "mediocre-as-fukk" for a team that finished 10-3 against a schedule with 7 top-27 opponents?

Utah finished 9-4, won three of their last four after Oregon, including their bowl game, and finished #21. How you saying they imploded?

And the way you talk about the WSU/Arizona/UCLA games makes you look just ignorant. Oregon was massive hurting in that stretch because they lost their RT, LT, backup RT, backup LG, and backup RG with injuries, and they were already weak at those positions after some early retirements and position switches over the last couple years. They started a true FR and a walk-on at the tackles for that stretch and had another FR as the main backup at guard/center, which is pretty much suicide. They got ONE guy back and they were fine again. Their struggles in that stretch had nothing to do with "weird things happen" and the improvement afterwards wasn't no "bounce back" after a loss.

Ok so make another ad hominem.

I'm not downplaying the FSU game at all, I just think the final score isn't indicative of the domination, it was the tempo and the fact FSU's defense was running on fumes, the retarded turnovers didn't mean shyt to me. Even if that game ended with Oregon winning by 13, I'd still call it a dominant win. They controlled (dominated) the pace of the game. FSU was a stone age style football team playing a quicker, better prepared team, that brought out all the gadgets. That was clear.

Even with a five point lead at half it felt like a 20-point lead. You could just sense FSU was really, really, really lucky to be just down five points. Then the avalanche of turnovers came n/h and it was game over.

But the MSU game was over before they scored the final touchdown. Helfrich is a degenerate fakkit and scored that meaningless TD to cover the spread. MSU wasn't coming back from that deficit.

I'm not talking about Utah's season as a whole, I'm talking about the UTah- Oregon game. Utah had all the momentum in the oregon game and their starting qb goes out and that retard fumbles the ball at the one yard line turning a walk-in touchdown into a scoop and score for Whoregon. Ripe for a great home win against Oregon and they fukked it up. fukk those fakkits.

I like to gamble on football games, I could give a fukk about all that other nonsense about arbitrary rankings because they don't mean shyt to me.

Too long didn't read: Fairychoka is gonna be trash at the next level. Get this YAC stat padding, ethnically ambiguous fakkit the fukk outta here *DNA voice*

 

[Professor Emeritus]

But the MSU game was over before they scored the final touchdown. Helfrich is a degenerate fakkit and scored that meaningless TD to cover the spread. MSU wasn't coming back from that deficit.

Name the play and gametime that Helrich even could have stopped trying. You think they should have taken a knee with 3 minutes left and given it back to MSU down only 12? You think they should have kicked a FG with 1:45 left and given it back to MSU still down only two scores?

Name the play Oregon should have stopped on. You can't. They scored on a 14-yard run up the middle on 4th-and-2 with 1:40 left when they were just trying to get the first down and end the game. There was no point before that play when they could have put the game away without scoring a TD. TD-onside kick-TD happens all the time in football - Seahawks just did it in the NFC championship, and Oregon did it themselves to Oklahoma just a few years back.

And acting like Utah's defense gave up just because the offense had a big turnover early...it was still only 7-7 after that play, so come on now. Heck, it was 30-27 a good 30 game minutes later, so if Utah collapsed because of a fumble it was quite a crazy delay on the collapse. Mariota had over 350 yards and 4 TDs on the road in a 51-27 win against a top-25 team with a quality defense, and you don't want to acknowledge it because somebody fumbled 40 game-minutes before the game was decided.

 

[satam55]

Mariota plays in an offence that simplifies his reads and allows him to make safe throws. The offense tires out defenses such that Mariota is rarely ever playing with the same handicap other QBs play against every week. In some ways Mariota is even more of a system QB than Manziel inasmuch as Manziel didn't play with as much hurry up principles and regularly threw into tight windows. When the game turned against him against OSU, Mariota couldn't make the necessary throws from the pocket like you expect from a top QB prospect. He couldn't sit back, read the defence and throw in a crowded pocket, despite multiple opportunities. Hence he is a bust (if he starts right away).

I disagree. At least the passing game in the Oregon/Chip Kelly offense is a pro-style/WCO passing game. It's just been simplified as fukk & repacked for the spread offense. Which is why Mariota to the Eagles would be the best fit.

Johnny Manziel ran the Air Raid offense at Texas A&M. That's a straight-up gimmick college offense.

 

[The ADD]

Read the title to quick this morning.

"Where is marriota's white broad"

 

[tmonster]

nikka they aint gonna show him fukking failing nikka this dude mariota is gonna be protected so hard.

talkin bout draw up brown right green left slot z flanker post 2 jet protection.

nikka gonna be like..but but chip called it "60! with a picture of obama, a pie, the state of california, and a basketball"

DRAW IT UP!!!!

I CANT!!!!