Yeah and the Lakers didn't win a championship those 4 timesPAU AVERAGED 16 OR LESS PPG 4 TIMES IN THE PLAYOFFS AS A MEMBER OF THE LAKERS
WADE AVERAGED 20 PPG IN THE 2013 FINALS .. PAU NEVER AVERAGED 20 PPG IN ANY OF HIS FINALS APPEARANCES
TRY AGAIN
He averaged: 18 PPG on 62 TS% in the 2009 playoffs and 19.6 PPG on 60 TS% in the 2010 playoffs.. Both of those runs considerably better than Wade's 15.9 PPG on 49 TS% in the 2013 playoffs.
He didn't need to average 20
he averaged 19, 12, and 4 in 2010 against the Celtics while being the most efficient scorer in the series and anchoring the Lakers defense. You're telling me that's not better than Wade averaging 1 more PPG while being less efficient and less impactful on defense 
Yeah and the Lakers didn't win a championship those 4 times
He averaged: 18 PPG on 62 TS% in the 2009 playoffs and 19.6 PPG on 60 TS% in the 2010 playoffs.. Both of those runs considerably better than Wade's 15.9 PPG on 49 TS% in the 2013 playoffs.
He didn't need to average 20
I LOVE HOW U ROUNDIN EVERYTHING UP TO FIT YOUR AGENDA
PAU AVERAGED 18.6 11.6 AND 3.7 ON 47% FROM THE FIELD (MEDIOCRE FOR A BIG)…. MORE IMPORTANTLY, HE COULD NEVER CREATE HIS OWN SHOT AND BASICALLY HAD TO BE SPOONFED MOST THE TIME.
THERES A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PAU AND WADE AND THE FACT THAT U TRYNA TELL A STORY WIT NUMBERS TELLS ME ALL I NEED TO KNOW BOUT YOUR BASKETBALL ACUMEN.
THESE GUYS ARE CLOWNS BRO. ESPN IS THEIR GOSPEL, THEY TRULY BELIEVE THIS RETARDED FUCCSHIIT THEY BE SPEWIN.
You realize giannis was the reason jrue even had the chance to make that play right? He hedged and cut off booker from blowing past pj
If he wins this title, Giannis would be ranked in the top 27
These threads are pointless….
These threads are pointless….
Ukbrotha
Superstar
I know this is the coli and we have to discuss all sorts of sports stuff but this conversation is too early. Despite his accomplishments you need to wait till the final act before you can start ranking him somewhere.
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
U juelzing, Dirk played like shyt in that series and that's why they lost, y'all wouldn't excuse any other ATG for the numbers and performance Dirk had.Avery Johnson was a bad coach. Rick was good but he ain't even got out the 1st round without Dirk since he been in the West.
That 07 Mavs team wasnt strong at all. They only won 67 cause Dirk was stupid in the clutch like most his prime. Their point differential was at the level of a 60 win team and that was their expected win total. The Mavs defense improved after they traded for Al Harrington. They was a different team and Mavs mostly got killed on the perimeter since their perimeter defense was always bad before they got Matrix.
And no after they lost Nash, Dirk was carrying average to bad casts most his prime. You cant have strong teams if Jason Terry is your Robin most your prime. That nikka never even sniffed an all star team and was a glorified 6th man. Imagine if Dirk had someone like Middleton someone who can win ECF games home or on the road himself without him? Khris been one of the best wings in the league for the past few years now. Brook Lopez is a better center than any Dirk had in his prime too. Besides Tyson Chandler who was Dirks centers? Dampier? Diop? Shawn Bradley?
Brook dropped a 33/7 game with 3 blocks in the ECF without Giannis on 78% and he a great defender too. He's a key cog for the Bucks to be a dominant defense. He's struggled guarding space more this series and the Bucks defense has been ass. Phoenix has a 118 offensive rating this series and scoring 112 PPG. Giannis is a good defender but he's great defenders around him during his prime and he wasnt even a top 5 defender when he DPOY. Bledsoe, Middleton, Jrue, Brook, Donte, Wes, Pat, Tucker is great defenders he's had and it Bud system that has their defense clicking.
Dirk guards was Devin Harris and old ass J Kidd most his prime too. He never had an actual top player as a star teammate after Cuban fumbled the Nash bag and they prolly win it all in 03 with Nash if he aint get hurt in the WCF. They was the best team when healthy that year.
GS defense wasn't on shyt Utah had no problem scoring on them in the next round Al Harrington wasn't a good defensive player. GS just had a good defensive gameplan on Dirk of getting under him with smaller guys, being physical, and sending bodies and it worked.
Dirk's teams were always good they didn't have a traditional second star but they usually had good depth and could score the ball as a unit with Dirk anchoring. I wouldn't downplay Jason Terry or "old ass" Jason Kidd, they were significant contributors to his chip. I see you a Dirk stan though, cool.
I wouldn't compare supporting cast across eras but teams are deeper today than they were in the 2000's.
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
U fukking up the thread with this Kobe vs. LeBron shyt…it’s played out dude give it upI LOVE HOW U ROUNDIN EVERYTHING UP TO FIT YOUR AGENDA
PAU AVERAGED 18.6 11.6 AND 3.7 ON 47% FROM THE FIELD (MEDIOCRE FOR A BIG)…. MORE IMPORTANTLY, HE COULD NEVER CREATE HIS OWN SHOT AND BASICALLY HAD TO BE SPOONFED MOST THE TIME.
THERES A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PAU AND WADE AND THE FACT THAT U TRYNA TELL A STORY WIT NUMBERS TELLS ME ALL I NEED TO KNOW BOUT YOUR BASKETBALL ACUMEN.
Thread is about Giannis
You rounded up Wade's 19.6 to 20 first dummyI LOVE HOW U ROUNDIN EVERYTHING UP TO FIT YOUR AGENDA
PAU AVERAGED 18.6 11.6 AND 3.7 ON 47% FROM THE FIELD (MEDIOCRE FOR A BIG)…. MORE IMPORTANTLY, HE COULD NEVER CREATE HIS OWN SHOT AND BASICALLY HAD TO BE SPOONFED MOST THE TIME.
THERES A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PAU AND WADE AND THE FACT THAT U TRYNA TELL A STORY WIT NUMBERS TELLS ME ALL I NEED TO KNOW BOUT YOUR BASKETBALL ACUMEN.
Pau was more efficient than KG in that series and scored on higher volume. He was the most efficient player in the series, the best big in the series, and outperformed Kobe in at least three games. If you think a big who anchored the winning team's defense in a defensive series and scored 19 PPG with relatively decent efficiency did not a outperform a hobbled guard who not only didn't score efficiently but also didn't create scoring opportunities for his teammates (only averaged .7 more assists than Pau
) then you really don't know shyt about ball 
You rounded up Wade's 19.6 to 20 first dummy
Pau was more efficient than KG in that series and scored on higher volume. He was the most efficient player in the series, the best big in the series, and outperformed Kobe in at least three games. If you think a big who anchored the winning team's defense in a defensive series and scored 19 PPG with relatively decent efficiency did not a outperform a hobbled guard who not only didn't score efficiently but also didn't create scoring opportunities for his teammates (only averaged .7 more assists than Pau
LET ME GUESS YOURE ONE OF THOSE DOUCHEBAGS WHO THINKS PAU SHOULDA WON FINALS MVP, HUH?
PAU’S NUMBERS ARE A BYPRODUCT OF THE ATTENTION KOBE GOT. YOU TEAM
HIM UP WIT BRON AND THAT 18.6 TURNS TO 12.6…. THATS THE PROBLEM WIT U CASUALS, U CANT CONTEXTUALIZE THE NUMBERS, BECAUSE U HAVE TO WATCH THE ACTUAL GAMES TO DO THAT.
qnsfinest
Superstar
Top 10? Knocking on top 5??? Lmao.
Assuming Giannis wins this year, Only duncan will have a better resume than Giannis at this point.
Malone- Both got 2 MVP’s, but Giannis will have a ring and fmvp and a defensive player over him.
Barkley- Might favorite PF of all time, but he got one more MVP, ring, fmvp, defensive player over him
KG- one more mvp, a fmvp but both got one defensive player of the yr.
Dirk- one more mvp, both got one ring and fmvp, but giannis got a fmvp.
1. Duncan
2. Giannis
3. Malone
4. Dirk
5. Barkley
6. KG
