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The Black Civil War continues :mjcry:
it aint from us, though:francis:

This lie has been going on for so long, and a lot of it is on purpose. I remember on this site a member by the name of "hoop85" or something like that repeated this same shyt, and he was proven wrong, but this guy said he "doesn't care what anyone says hip hop came from Jamaica!", even though he said prove that it doesn't come from there. It was the same for "The Retired SKJ", he actually tried to twist it, and say "illmaticdelta" and "poitier", just hates west indians because they tried to correct the lie.

When I was younger I thought it was just ignorance, and even believed it, but then I started listening to the actual people who created it, and listening to music BEFORE rap, and see that it wasn't true. Pigmeat markham's "here comes the judge" was the first record that woke me up, and my mother put me onto it. She had the 45, played it, and I was in awe that it sounded just like a rap song. Everything from the beat, to the rap flow, and the story. Then I listen to "the last poets", and rudy ray moore albums. Then I listened to old jazz songs, and it was no question that it didn't start in Jamaica. With the internet, the people who created it in the Bronx tell their story, and they say the same thing, it didn't come from the islands.

What's crazy is most latins will admit it, but a lot of black Caribbeans won't!

Black people compete for damn near everything, even history!:gucci:
 
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it aint from us, though:francis:

This lie has been going on for so long, and a lot of it is on purpose. I remember on this site a member by the name of "hoop85" or something like that repeated this same shyt, and he was proven wrong, but this guy said he "doesn't care what anyone says hip hop came from Jamaica!", even though he said prove that it doesn't come from there. It was the same for "The Retired SKJ", he actually tried to twist it, and say "illmaticdelta" and "poitier", just hates west indians because they tried to correct the lie.

When I was younger I thought it was just ignorance, and even believed it, but then I started listening to the actual people who created it, and listening to music BEFORE rap, and see that it wasn't true. Pigmeat markham's "here comes the judge" was the first record that woke me up, and my mother put me onto it. She had the 45, played it, and I was in awe that it sounded just like a rap song. Everything from the beat, to the rap flow, and the story. Then I listen to "the last poets", and rudy ray moore albums. Then I listened to old jazz songs, and it was no question that it didn't start in Jamaica. With the internet, the people who created it in the Bronx tell their story, and they say the same thing, it didn't come from the islands.

What's crazy is most latins will admit it, but a lot of black Caribbeans won't!

Black people compete for damn near everything, even history!:gucci:

:wow:

All indisputable facts
 

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Racism birthed hiphop, honestly tho...

The construction of the Cross Bronx Expressway created mass white flight, leading to urban decay in the Bronx in the late 60's/early 70's.
No resources, no school programs, shotty living conditions created street gangs.
Kids took to the streets and created this culture and the four pillars (DJ, MC, breaking, graffiti)

It wasn't like Kool Herc was on some God in Genesis shyt
"And on the fourth day, he created the MC"... :krs:

It was a process that took years to culminate.

Of course other forms of music influenced hiphop (soul, funk, reggae, disco) cuz thats the records they played in the park jams, before there was recorded hiphop music.the

But it is AMERICAN, no doubt, and started in the ghettos of NEW YORK CITY, Bronx to be more specific
:blessed:

case closed...
 
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It was the Bronx.
The dj part came from Jamaica
Actually, NONE of it came from Jamaica. Herc was just in the right place at the right time.
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i always thought hip hop started in new york, but i dont know now. kool herc, bambatta and grandmaster flash are all caribbean.


Disco King Mario and others are NOT


I swear this erasure is a concerted effort, parallel to Jamaicans and others keeping Scotians in Canada on the quiet so they can be the "recognized blacks".
You never see AAs saying "We basically gave y'all the ingredients for reggae"...and that would be true.
Without US soul radio there would be no Count Machuki...without our rhythms there would be no "riddim"...
 
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