IllmaticDelta
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This Wakanda ass Trinidadian nikka really in here denying the Great Migration happened
these outsiders have no shame
Where was hip-hop created?
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these outsiders have no shame
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Chuck D told me personally Kool Herc started it,good enough for me...
In the Hip Hop text book it should read:
Hip Hop was discovered in the Bronx in 1973. Kool Herc combined Jamaican soundclash ideals with break beats and an unstoppable juggernaut was unleashed.
In 2018 Hip Hop controls fully 55% of the globe.
Hip Hop was discovered in the Bronx in 1973. Kool Herc combined Jamaican soundclash ideals with break beats and an unstoppable juggernaut was unleashed.
In 2018 Hip Hop controls fully 55% of the globe.
Lol mah don't know who that it is. Last name ain't AfricanAre you from Tracey Towers...Is your last name Owusu or Osei
If so....
I KNOW Y'ALL.
IllmaticDelta
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Speaking of Krs-one, if you watch his episode on "Drink Champs" he said he brought the reggae/dancehall style to the bronx from when he was living in Flatbush, brooklyn, and used to puff with the dreads in the park. Now, If Caribbeans/Jamaicans were so large in the Bronx, why would have people never heard that style before? That area of Brooklyn had just gotten big with west indians due to white flight, and caribbeans coming in large droves around 1976, but it was still a mix of black americans as well, its just they took over the area as time went on, and were the first black immigrants, so you take notice of them. He even mentions this on the song "south bronx". "it was seventy-six to 1980 The dreads in Brooklyn was crazyYou couldn't bring out your set with no hip-hop Because the pistols would go". So ask yourself, why would Jamaicans hate rap, if they started it?
Watch all the videos on hip hop if you want to learn, but me & illmaticdelta have been constantly posting videos from this channel and people don't watch like that, they just want to argue. I'm still gonna link it AGAIN!
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fat joe who is from the 1970's south bronx basically confirmed that he never heard reggae being played like that even in the early to mid 1980s which would be odd if their numbers were anywhere near aframs
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In this recent interview with Fat Joe below, he was talking about Krs "Bridge Is Over" and said that was about the first time he heard Jamaican styled/flavor music and remember, he was street kid from the South Bronx and that was already in the mid 1980s....THIS IS VERY TELLING!!!
IllmaticDelta
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predated Herc in the Bronx scene.
Dj Disco King Mario
He was actually from Bronx scene and one of the founder/leaders of the Black Spades.
REMEMBER DISCO KING MARIO
This Saturday [August 18th 2001] Hip Hop's pioneers will be coming out in full force to pay tribute to the memory of one of its legendary DJs who passed away a few years back-Disco King Mario. We often hear about the achievements of people like Bambaataa, Kool Herc and Grandmaster Flash, but very little is said about some of the other pioneers who also laid down much of the foundation we now call Hip Hop. Cats like Pete DJ Jones, Grand Wizard Theodore, the late DJ Flowers and of course Mario were key architects.
Disco King Mario never released no records. He didn't produce no major rap stars. I'm not even sure if he ever toured around the world once Hip Hop became known world wide. However, for those of us who were around back in the beginning days of the 70s, Disco King Mario who lived upstairs from my man DJ Paradise of X-Clan over in the Bronxdale Housing projects, was a household name. He was known for throwing some of Hip Hop's best jams and keeping the party going. He was staple in early Hip Hop whose name and his crew Chuck Chuck City was mentioned on many of the early tapes. One of Mario's unwritten contributions was mentioned on many of the early tapes. One of Mario's unwritten contributions was how he gave
Afrika Bambaattaa a helping hand. He used loan Bam his dj equipment. Later on Bam would face Mario in his first official DJ battle. Back in the early days it was Disco King Mario who was at the top of heap and the man to beat
Today its hard for people to understand the significance of the DJ. When Hip Hop first began it wasn't the rapper who was in charge. It was the DJ. It was the DJ came to symbolized the African drummer. It was the DJ who kept the pace and set the tone. It was the DJ who rocked the crowd and was the supreme personality who garnered the spot light. Everyone else including the rappers were secondary. Cats from all over came to your party based upon who was deejaying. Hence when Disco King Mario's name was mentioned cats came from all over because he was the man. He was the type of cat who simply had that magic and command of the crowd. Sadly he passed away before his time, unknown to many of today's bling bling artists who benefit from the culture he helped laid down.
If you happen to be in New York, you may see a flyer being circulated around that is reminiscent of the old school flyers from back in the days. 'By Popular demand DJ Cool Clyde, Lightnin Lance, The Nasty Cuzins, Quiet Az Kept Present their first annual Old School Reunion & Picnic'. It lets you know that the celebration for Disco King Mario is taking place Saturday August 18th at Rosedale 'Big Park' in the Bronx. The Big Park itself is legendary. When I was a kid living on Croes Avenue, we were absolutely forbidden to go across the street to the Big Park. That was because the Big Park was where many of many of the early Black Spades used to hang out. The Spades at that time were the largest and most notorious gang at that time. They eventually evolved to become The Mighty Zulu Nation. As for the Big Park, it eventually became the place where Disco King Mario would eventually throw many of his early gigs.
Hip Hop News
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--> starts @ 5:15 then 8:30
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predated Herc in the Bronx scene.
Dj Disco King Mario
He was actually from Bronx scene and one of the founder/leaders of the Black Spades.
Hip Hop News
---> go and listen @ 3:41
--> starts @ 5:15 then 8:30
---> @ 4:00
---> go to 2:54 and then 4:45
I don't think Herc woke up in the middle of the night and singlehandedly invented every detail.
I realize the sort of 'official mythology' about the actual, literal first Hip Hop jam is probably a simplified version of events or maybe glorified?
This is the essence of mythology. Simplified. Embellished. Retconned.
I don't like straight up fabrications. I prefer straight down the middle 100% facts, but the Herc and the First Jam story works for me. It has enough meat on the bone that I can get behind it.
Just basing all this off of hearing people who were there speak on it on YouTube an shyt. Sounds reasonable enough tho.
No disrespect to anyone from the early Hip Hop scene. I revere all the people who co created my beloved Hip Hop.
IllmaticDelta
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the herc origins have always been questioned by people who were there at the time and they're starting to speak out on it more to show that alot of history of early hiphop has been left out/distorted
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Interesting riff between Herc and Bambattas camp (Zulu Nation) on the origin of HipHop culture. Who said there was no debate on the origins from the Og's?
Zulu Nation Says DJ Kool Herc Did Not Start Hip Hop And Is Misrepresenting The Culture - AllHipHop.com
A couple of interesting posts from Rahiem of Grandmaster Flash & The Furious 5, who came up in the Herc scene..
"I'm Rahiem of Grandmaster Flash & The Furious 5 and the minister of information of the Zulu nation is a clown and so is ANYONE else if after 40 years of Hip-hop culture and agreeing that DJ Kool Herc is the father of Hip-hop so why would that have changed after 40 years? I used to be in Bronx river when the Zulu nation began and the Zulu nation began in 1977-78 and Kool Herc began in 1973 so do the math and the Zulu nation were still the Black Spades during the "Blackout" of 1977 and shortly afterwards became the Bronx river organization and then the Zulu nation and honestly the people who are considered to be forefathers of the Hip-hop culture actually changed the game by adding to it and Everyone who was truly there you knew who did what and we know who set trends or brought something to the game to change it and Bambaataa and the Zulu nation didn't change the game! Grandmaster Flash Changed the game!!!!! Kool Herc is the genesis of the game and Bambaataa added what? More beats? STOP IT!!!!!!!!"
^^It's well known Herc is before Baambatta and Flash.
Now here is his take on how rapping started...
"Dancers that did a dance called the B-boying or that danced to Boioing music came directly from Kool Herc parties. Kool Herc's emcees didn't rhyme to the beat but they said catchy phrases that were adopted by emcees who expounded on what they were doing after Herc's emcees and then when emcees heard DJ Hollywood is when they began rhyming to the beat!"
IllmaticDelta
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Chuck D told me personally Kool Herc started it,good enough for me...
This is ashame that in the internet era, people still don't research history but can research about gossiping bullshyt!
He doesn't mean the rapping, he's talking about throwing the first party dedicated to playing break beats!
This is getting so tired. Even when August 11th comes around, it is explained that's what happened
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Notice he says RED ALERT!
It was Red who brought dancehall to the masses in NYC. I'm from Flatbush, and was used to it, but I traveled the city, and new it wasn't being played like that. This is why when red started playing it in the late 80's, it started getting big, and mixing with rap in the 90's. That wasn't no coincidence, its because that's how it was presented by red alert. He would play dancehall on Saturday, then go into rap music.
@IllmaticDelta did you study music history in school? No matter what the genre you got a thousand and 1 facts and references 
another one who doesn't know his own historyThis thread is pure jokes:
African Americans: Rapping is linked to jive talking, an Afram practice
Carribean diaspora: We were toasting before that, we didnt know of no goddamn jive talking, too busy having a good time.
Africans:fukk yall, we were spitting hot fiyah in my village over traditional drums before slavery existed. In fact my clan started that shyt foh.
I'm tired of this shyt, all yall nikkas are some idiots or just downright devils with your lying. You got pages showing the history, yet somehow these fools keep repeating the same shyt. And this has been going on for YEARS!
Ain't NO way the black man will rise up with people like this on our side. I want nothing to do with idiots like yall because all yall do is hold back blacks frpm progressing. If we show proof of something as hip hop history, and you idiots still don't want to hear, how in the fukk can we stop racism, and that shyt is covert?
For the intelligent people, pay attention to little things like this because it shows its those who look like us who are the ones holding us back from progressing the way we should, and they work with racists, knowingly or unknowingly. If you don't deal with truth, then its obvious you deal with lies!