Where does the idea that LeBron is a better all around player than Jordan come from

[HabitualChiller]

I can't give Jordan the defense edge despite his accomplishments on that end, mainly because of the 1-3 being much better in this era. IIRC, wasn't Pippen the dude that was guarding the other team's best non-big man? If so, then how can you sit there and say that MJ was better than LeBron on D?

 

[Long Live The Kane]

I think where LeBron is gonna have the clear advantage over MJ and just about every one save maybe Kareem is gonna be the sheer length and consistency of greatness in his career...this was year 17 and he’s right there at the TOP of the game...like if this is “old man Bron” and we’re gonna get another 2-4 years of something close to that, shyt get kinda spooky ...a laker championship is like a democrat winning Texas in the legacy narrative presidential race...the all time scoring record is in play

 

[Po pimp]

Anyone who comes into a conversation saying, "I'm able to see things from an unbiased viewpoint" is exposing their ass from the start.

I mean, if you don't know that LeBron is a better passer and rebounder than MJ, not really sure what the point is of the conversation.

MJ was a much better midrange shooter, LBJ is a better three-point shooter, they were both extremely effective at the rim. Overall MJ was a more aggressive scorer and at least in his own era was more effective.

Defense can obviously be debated, they both have their strengths. MJ was more consistently a bulldog man defender, LBJ could defend more positions and was a better rim protector, they both were great in the passing lanes.

I don't think it's cut-and-dried either way.




Uh, you do know that Scottie said MJ cared so much about his stats that he would have a certain goal to reach each quarter, so that he would be sure to get his points up by the end of the game? He was literally thinking about his stats the entire game.

Is Westbrook also a better passer and rebounder than LeBron? LeBron has never averaged 10rpg, and this is LeBron’s first season averaging over 10apg. Westbrook has done it multiple times.

What makes LeBron a better rim protector? The chase down block he does every 10 games or so? Has LeBron even averaged a block a game in his career?

 

[ajnapoleon]

Is Westbrook also a better passer and rebounder than LeBron? LeBron has never averaged 10rpg, and this is LeBron’s first season averaging over 10apg. Westbrook has done it multiple times.

What makes LeBron a better rim protector? The chase down block he does every 10 games or so? Has LeBron even averaged a block a game in his career?

Westbrook is a way better player always have been

 

[10bandz]

@Art Barr once again dropping jewels throughout this thread

 

[10bandz]

Lebron is better than Kobe definitely

Who was talking about Kobe??


Y’all nikkas love to start

 

[10bandz]

I think where LeBron is gonna have the clear advantage over MJ and just about every one save maybe Kareem is gonna be the sheer length and consistency of greatness in his career...this was year 17 and he’s right there at the TOP of the game...like if this is “old man Bron” and we’re gonna get another 2-4 years of something close to that, shyt get kinda spooky ...a laker championship is like a democrat winning Texas in the legacy narrative presidential race...the all time scoring record is in play

Kobe was at the top of his game in year 17 as well. And if MJ would’ve started his career at 18, 98 would’ve been around his 17th year he was still ballin. Karl Malone also ballin 17th year

 

[DoubleClutch]

my bad. I misread

But he do everything well except shoot free throws. Bron only true flaw (besides free throws) imo is something we can’t see and that’s between the ears. He too unselfish at times and it makes him passive in weird situations. But even with me saying that he done enough to debunk that. I love Penny but outside of handle I don’t think he do anything better

I’ve never seen defenders back off Penny and dare him to shoot like players have done to Lebron.

Lebron has never amazed me with an array of post moves either

These were both big criticisms of his game throughout his career besides what you mentioned

Lebron can somewhat shoot now. But he ain’t a catch and shoot or spot up jumpshooter by any means

 

[DoubleClutch]

This shyt so dumb

Tell me why it’s dumb.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Is Westbrook also a better passer and rebounder than LeBron?

No.

What makes LeBron a better rim protector?

The fact that he more regularly comes off-ball to challenge other players at the rim to the point where you could see opposing teams affected by it. The 2013 Finals and 2016 Finals are good examples where Bron's rim protection had a meaningful effect on the course of the series.

The chase down block he does every 10 games or so?

At his athletic peak he was getting 20+ chasedown blocks a season, if you only count the ones where he came from behind on fastbreaks. And he did, you know, help secure a title on one of those.

 

[The_Third_Man]

yeah,....
as magic was called tragic magic and had his whole shyt trashed.
yet you nikkaz in this tsbloid digital era.
give complete loser passes for even worse outing than tragic magic.

Where bron will easily jag winning in numerous situations.
that could have easily been turned into winning in lebron'a favor.

a six final loss overall record proves that.
plus i know people will not sit and rant footage like me in this community.
nor do they read,...
or even know the source material.
so I already know why we are where we are in this discussion.
As this debate is flooded with non-pedigreed unactualized takes on every topic. Since the net became popular in the wake of digital devices in mass droves. Past the original unveiling and usage of the net in 97.

Art Barr

PROTEGE TO A LEGEND :
LEGENDARY LIEGE : THE SERIES

ok Art Barr

I can't give Jordan the defense edge despite his accomplishments on that end, mainly because of the 1-3 being much better in this era. IIRC, wasn't Pippen the dude that was guarding the other team's best non-big man? If so, then how can you sit there and say that MJ was better than LeBron on D?

and in his 2nd 3 peat, Ron Harper used to guard the better guards

 

[Dwight Howard]

I can't give Jordan the defense edge despite his accomplishments on that end, mainly because of the 1-3 being much better in this era. IIRC, wasn't Pippen the dude that was guarding the other team's best non-big man? If so, then how can you sit there and say that MJ was better than LeBron on D?

 

[HabitualChiller]

K

 

[YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy]

ok Art Barr


and in his 2nd 3 peat, Ron Harper used to guard the better guards

This is false

 

[viktordoomsecretwars]

I think where LeBron is gonna have the clear advantage over MJ and just about every one save maybe Kareem is gonna be the sheer length and consistency of greatness in his career...this was year 17 and he’s right there at the TOP of the game...like if this is “old man Bron” and we’re gonna get another 2-4 years of something close to that, shyt get kinda spooky ...a laker championship is like a democrat winning Texas in the legacy narrative presidential race...the all time scoring record is in play

That's because of all the vitamins he takes