Where does the idea that LeBron is a better all around player than Jordan come from

[Roland Coltrane]

Without the ball constantly in his hands he’d probably score the same.

Even so, he'd be a great scorer with no skill.

Nobody would respect it.

And he’d have to magically develop handles, or a post game and a consistent jump shot

Then he would be a completely different player

I’m saying take away Just the passing element from his game and judge him

Tell me his strengths/skills other than driving to the rim, jumping high & dunking hard?

pretty sure MJ has one of the highest verts ever recorded at 46"

if Bron's was higher with all the talk of how much more of a physical specimen he is I'm sure they would have let us know by now

 

[Roland Coltrane]

This goes both ways, because there are a number of posters who have "conveniently forgotten" that LeBron is an All-Time defender in crunch time and at his best was probably the best wing defender in The League...

The lengths this board goes to, to minimize his defensive greatness is cartoonish. I'm not speaking directly as to if he was better than Mike on that end, I didn't see Mike play. I know that its tiring hearing this board pretend that Bron didn't help win multiple championships based in part on some really clutch and elite defensive play, and none of the players on LeBron's level that I've seen (so I'm saying Kobe, Duncan, Shaq) were greater defenders than Bron besides Duncan, yet we run around with this implication that LeBron is some bottom tier defensive player...

So your point goes for all the cats who say LeBron wasn't a great defensive player...

and this nikka be the LOUDEST one in any MJ/Bron thread



jesus.fukking.christ


AND this nikka making up strawmen out of nowhere

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Unless it's a chase down block, bron's defense is ass and highly exaggerated. Guarding every position loses its value when you're constantly getting dunked on and game winners hit on you

 

[frush11]

Skip and Shannon asss nikkas

 

[Trojan 24]

Shoulda made the poll public so I know which 52 posters to ignore

I'll give you a hint, 90% are Cacs

 

[Roland Coltrane]

 

[DoubleClutch]

Penny was nice but

Lebron has no handles, post moves or a reliable jump shot throughout his career but

 

[Trojan 24]

Unless it's a chase down block, bron's defense is ass and highly exaggerated. Guarding every position loses its value when you're constantly getting dunked on and game winners hit on you

Anyone that watches games knows this, they still harping on Bron "clamping" Rose who didn't have a jump shot

I remember one year Kobe started off up there in terms of steals and they asked Phil if he was impressed by Kobe's activity. He said no because the only reason he has more steals is because his bad knee had him sitting back trying to get in the passing lane instead of playing D

 

[Trojan 24]

BTW when are we going to talk about the Triangle being a STAT stuffer deterrent?

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Winning a shytload of scoring titles was never the barometer of a great scorer or an All-Time great player for anybody except Michael Jordan...

"If you didn't score as prolific as Jordan did, you weren't a great scorer. If you didn't have the exact same accomplishments as Jordan, you weren't a great player". Yet you don't see the flaw in your logic?

where the fukk do you even come up with this shyt?

 

[Roland Coltrane]

I just cant take you nikkas seriously when you say shyt like this. So you dropping all these stats in favor of MJ ( I already conceded that he was better on offense and on perimeter D) but when it comes to Lebron's stats its "only because"

 

[Roland Coltrane]

You can say you favor Jordan but your info about watching tape is irrelevant because you weren't there to watch it in real time, you coulda left that part out. You're no different than anyone else who didn't see him play, we've made our opinion based on how we've interpreted the atmosphere around him, be it numbers, competition, hype machine, etc...

 

[NobleDrewAli]

To be called the greatest all around player of all time Lebron lacks handles, a post game and for most of his career he struggled with an outside jumpshot.

Lebron to this day has little to no iso breakdown down moves off the dribble

“lacks handle”



“No post game”


“he struggled with jumper”



Stop it breh.

 

[Cadillac]

He was injured for like 2 of them


Nobody told MJ to retire twice... and he still wouldn’t have been close if they both played 20

MJ was injured thru 85-86, and did not play a full season in 95.

and assist total doesnt mean hes a better passer. The assits total between them is not even big enough to make a substantial claim as if he was better than Jordan.

 

[Killer Instinct]

Jordan was just the better basketball player. Eventually, someone will come along and surpass Mike, but that someone hasn't arrived yet, and it certainly wasn't Lebron. Dude can proclaim himself as the greatest all he wants, but that's not convincing anyone outside of Rich Paul & his stan base. History certaintly won't give a fukk.