Supreme365
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Where does the idea that LeBron is a better all around player than Jordan come from
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steph_harden
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So now it’s gotta be a “legit center” and he has to “get busy”
Goal post moving at its finest. Bruh why would u expect Lebron to be playing the 5 full time in addition to all the responsibilities he already has? He can and has the ability to play it in stretches. MJ couldn’t match up against any center at any time because he was just too small which is why the physical differences I posted mattersYea MJ did his thing but I know you’re not implying that he played the point better than Bron are you? Bron ran away with the assist title this year....finished in the top 5 in assists 6 times already. MJ ain’t do that. You don’t think Bron could post those triple dub numbers too? He’s way ahead of MJ in that category...or is Westbrook the GOAT to you?
nikka what??You been contradicting yourself your whole post. So stats matter when “MJ dominates to the tune of 10 triple doubles in 11 games” But “longevity stats don’t matter”
“Bron never put it together”?? The fukk are you even sayin
MJ is the GOAT scorer...that’s not the argument. MJ was also a better perimeter defender. That’s coo but Bron is a better rebounder, a better passer, a better weakside defender and more versatile because of his size. If you can’t admit that then you’re just as much the stan you’re trying to label me as...
Tired a these stupid ass threads
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Long Live The Kane
Tyrant Titan
I be wanting to stop hating on LeBron, but goddamn do you stans make it hard....like Kobe Stans took a lot of heat back in the gap, but y'all running with that torch man...y'all got it
nikka get the fukk outta here
It be you fukkin haters that’s on his dikk the hardest...
Stop makin these stupid fukkin threads
Long Live The Kane
Tyrant Titan
I've never made a LeBron thread in my lifenikka get the fukk outta here
It be you fukkin haters that’s on his dikk the hardest...
Stop makin these stupid fukkin threads
I'm just here to laugh at titangraphs bout LeBron being the best perimeter defender of his era while also playing every position and locking down centers
Fans forget so much as time passes.Anyone who comes into a conversation saying, "I'm able to see things from an unbiased viewpoint" is exposing their ass from the start.
I mean, if you don't know that LeBron is a better passer and rebounder than MJ, not really sure what the point is of the conversation.
MJ was a much better midrange shooter, LBJ is a better three-point shooter, they were both extremely effective at the rim. Overall MJ was a more aggressive scorer and at least in his own era was more effective.
Defense can obviously be debated, they both have their strengths. MJ was more consistently a bulldog man defender, LBJ could defend more positions and was a better rim protector, they both were great in the passing lanes.
I don't think it's cut-and-dried either way.
Uh, you do know that Scottie said MJ cared so much about his stats that he would have a certain goal to reach each quarter, so that he would be sure to get his points up by the end of the game? He was literally thinking about his stats the entire game.
7.4 is nearly 40% more than 5.3. Fail math brehs.Lol. Since y'all love stats so much, MJ's career assist average is 5.3 per game. As a shooting guard. Lebron, who is supposedly "pass first", supposedly miles ahead of MJ in terms of passing according to some and handles the ball much more is at...7.4. An insane 2 more assists per game
Michael Jordan Stats | Basketball-Reference.com
LeBron James Stats | Basketball-Reference.com
And MJ played in a faster era too. Per 100 possessions it's 10.0 for LBJ and just 7.0 for MJ.
Or to put it a different way, LeBron assist % for his career is 36.4% and MJ's is just 24.9%.
Those aren't. even. close.
Rollo Goodlove
Palestine Titty
Penny beat Jordan in the playoffs that's something LeBron couldn't dream about
Jordan's Bulls faced some of the most forgotten teams of all time in the NBA Finals.
Lebron and the Cavaliers overcame a 3-1 deficit against the 73 win Warriors.
Penny's Magic had a larger accomplishment in your mind?
Rollo Goodlove
Palestine Titty
LeBron is 3-6 you really want to go thereJordan's Bulls faced some of the most forgotten teams of all time in the NBA Finals.
Lebron and the Cavaliers overcame a 3-1 deficit against the 73 win Warriors.
Penny's Magic had a larger accomplishment in your mind?
This is a deflection.
You are implying that nothing Lebron has accomplished is on the level of Penny Hardaway and the Magic beating Jordan's Bulls in the playoffs.
Just staggering.
viktordoomsecretwars
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There's no aspect of basketball I'll take Lebron over Jordan. Its not even a conservation worth having. No disrespect to Lebron, but its not even close between them. Lebron is more on a level of Magic and Bird - (which is an extremely high level btw).
Lebron is the best player of his generation but he has also become extremely overblown and overrated by the media. For instance, he was (rightly) put in the top 5 of all time after his crowning career performance in the 2016 finals. But then over the course of 3 years, despite ZERO championships, ZERO finals MVP's, ZERO regular season MVP's and playing in an extremely weak conference, he was catapulted by the media to being all of a sudden 2nd best of all time only behind MJ? Some even say he's best of all time? Based on what? What exactly did he achieve in that time period that made him make that jump ahead of Magic or Kareem for example?
The only people that are in a position to compare Lebron and Jordan are:
Just go back and watch Jordan's level of play in his 88, 89, 90 playoff runs. Even before he started winning Championships (because Jordan won his first ring at 28).
It's not even close. That is why this conversation is so irritating. Because you have people who don't know what they're talking about speaking with confidence about a debate that isn't even worth having.
Lebron is the best player of his generation but he has also become extremely overblown and overrated by the media. For instance, he was (rightly) put in the top 5 of all time after his crowning career performance in the 2016 finals. But then over the course of 3 years, despite ZERO championships, ZERO finals MVP's, ZERO regular season MVP's and playing in an extremely weak conference, he was catapulted by the media to being all of a sudden 2nd best of all time only behind MJ? Some even say he's best of all time? Based on what? What exactly did he achieve in that time period that made him make that jump ahead of Magic or Kareem for example?
The only people that are in a position to compare Lebron and Jordan are:
- people of a certain age range that were NBA fans or even better Bulls fans during Jordan's prime
- people who have access to collection of Old Bulls games from the 80's and early 90's
- people who have taken their time to watch some Old Bulls games from that time period on Youtube. Youtube obviously doesn't have all the games but he has some
Just go back and watch Jordan's level of play in his 88, 89, 90 playoff runs. Even before he started winning Championships (because Jordan won his first ring at 28).
It's not even close. That is why this conversation is so irritating. Because you have people who don't know what they're talking about speaking with confidence about a debate that isn't even worth having.