Where does Lebron rank all-time now?

Bilz

Superstar
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
16,129
Reputation
1,360
Daps
37,293
Reppin
Los Angeles
Saying he felt cheated from not meeting up with Boston or LA is saying he considered them the best competition & test of his talents. If he considered someone else better competition that could only mean he didn't consider what he faced the best competition.

Good lord :snoop:

I'll keep using terms you may have some hope of understanding. Why was beating Phoenix in 2010 gratifying for Kobe? Was it because they were the best team or was it because they had embarassed him previously. I'll wait. :beli:
 

Peruvian Connect

All Star
Joined
May 11, 2012
Messages
6,373
Reputation
-2,205
Daps
12,027
Reppin
NULL
Neither Magic nor Bird were better individual players than Mike was in '88-90. If you think that Bird and Magic were better than Mike during those years then you just feel that they were better players period. Mike wasn't a better player in '91 than he was in '88-90, the team around him was better.

You're basically rehashing what I've already stated. The difference is I do not believe Jordan is the greatest ever, you do.
 

Gravity

Banned
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
18,826
Reputation
2,195
Daps
56,262
You're basically rehashing what I've already stated. The difference is I do not believe Jordan is the greatest ever, you do.
Ive said nothing about Mike being the greatest ever. I'm speaking about him being the best player in the NBA for a specific time period, '88-90. I'm saying that Mike was a better individual player than Magic or Bird, and the only thing you have to counter that is the fact that Magic and Bird were on better teams.
 

YBE

Banned
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
5,125
Reputation
9
Daps
5,514
I'll keep using terms you may have some hope of understanding. Why was beating Phoenix in 2010 gratifying for Kobe? Was it because they were the best team or was it because they had embarassed him previously. I'll wait. :beli:

:beli:

why do you think Kobe was hinting at meeting up with Miami in the Finals when they first got together? because he know beating Bron-Wade-Bosh is better than beating up on Dwight or the Celtics.

It's not rocket science Bilz.
 
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
4,130
Reputation
1,009
Daps
8,543
Reppin
SoFla
ay idiot Kobe stans... if rings is the end all be all, then why does everyone consider MJ to be the GOAT and not Russell
 

Bilz

Superstar
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
16,129
Reputation
1,360
Daps
37,293
Reppin
Los Angeles
why do you think Kobe was hinting at meeting up with Miami in the Finals when they first got together? because he know beating Bron-Wade-Bosh is better than beating up on Dwight or the Celtics.

It's not rocket science Bilz.

Because he had already taken part in beating those teams, which is exactly my point. Who would say they wish they could have played against a team they already beat? Are you just trolling?
 

Houston911

Super Moderator
Staff member
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
46,843
Reputation
13,785
Daps
198,507
Stop comparing Kobes rings to lebrons. It's not necessary and it makes no sense cuz.kobe been in the league longer

prime kobe is better than any version of lebron we've seen if you just analyze their games
 

ReggieFlare

Superstar
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
10,517
Reputation
536
Daps
24,266
Reppin
#ITGang
Saying he felt cheated from not meeting up with Boston or LA is saying he considered them the best competition & test of his talents. If he considered someone else better competition that could only mean he didn't consider what he faced the best competition.

Good lord :snoop:

You're reaching breh, Bilz is right
 

Peruvian Connect

All Star
Joined
May 11, 2012
Messages
6,373
Reputation
-2,205
Daps
12,027
Reppin
NULL
Ive said nothing about Mike being the greatest ever. I'm speaking about him being the best player in the NBA for a specific time period, '88-90. I'm saying that Mike was a better individual player than Magic or Bird, and the only thing you have to counter that is the fact that Magic and Bird were on better teams.

Michael Jordan was never the clearcut best player until the league was devoid of talent. This is fact, not opinion. Magic and Bird had better teams thats true, but they were also seen as the apex of players Jordan was in that discussion but it was said he could not be the best until he won. Yes, he beat Magic and Magic soon retired and Bird had injuries. This is not a knock on Jordan. But once Magic and Bird left who was the real competition? The guys you name were not in thgat discussion eventhough they were in the league already.
 

Malta

Sweetwater
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
66,896
Reputation
15,149
Daps
279,724
Reppin
Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
prime kobe is better than any version of lebron we've seen if you just analyze their games

It pains me, but I can't agree with this, the version of Bron we just saw in the playoffs this year was better than any Kobe. Also, this might be the start of LeBron's peak as a player.

I started to question if he was ever going to win a title, even thought the wiring was messed up, but that was an absolutely monstrous playoff run and is considerably better than any run Kobe went on in the playoffs.
 

Gravity

Banned
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
18,826
Reputation
2,195
Daps
56,262
prime kobe is better than any version of lebron we've seen if you just analyze their games
Kobe was never the playmaker that Lebron is, he's never been the leader that Lebron currently is, and he's never been the defender/rebounder that Lebron currently is. The only advantage I'd give Kobe over this current Lebron is in jump shooting.
 

YBE

Banned
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
5,125
Reputation
9
Daps
5,514
It pains me, but I can't agree with this, the version of Bron we just saw in the playoffs this year was better than any Kobe. Also, this might be the start of LeBron's peak as a player.

I started to question if he was ever going to win a title, even thought the wiring was messed up, but that was an absolutely monstrous playoff run and is considerably better than any run Kobe went on in the playoffs.

(real question)

what exactly did Bron do this year that Kobe didn't before? intangibles? stats? willing himself to a ring?
 
Top