Where do Juicy J and DJ Paul rank as Hip Hop producers?

[Chris Cool]

No disrespect to your dad :Peasy:
But it sounds like he was a casual fan.
If you were a serious head you fukked with he best shyt nationwide and Mobb was grade A east coast grimy shyt in their prime.
And Dogg Pound wasn’t regional either. :PPicard:
Either way, this thread isn’t about Mobb Deep or Dogg Pound.

Dogg pound post dogg food are as regional as it gets. My pops ain't causal at all. "Grade A east coast grimey shyt" ain't never popped in LA. You sound like a causal for even believing some shyt like that.

And lol @ the thread ain't about mobb when you're there one who derailed it by even bringing them up.

 

[mobbinfms]

Three Six Mafia was definitely above C level by 2000. This was a super underground group who made it to regional status and got nationwide recognition by the end of the 90's. With "Sippin' On Syrup", they were definitely beyond regional and had nationwide fame. They weren't exactly household names (which would make them A listers), but they definitely weren't C list either. 2005 was when they became super mainstream to where that album and Hustle & Flow got them an Oscar, MTV Show, and an appearance on a Justin Timberlake album without really making music that was super mainstream.

Production wise, they sit comfortably in the Top 20-25 range IMO.

I’m not mad at that. 2000 was definitely their peak before 2005. And I don’t mean A level to be household names like a A list celebrity.
So B level for that album, then they receded again before 2005. That’s how I remember it.

 

[mobbinfms]

Dogg pound post dogg dogg are as regional as it gets. My pops ain't causal at all. "Grade A east coast grimey shyt" ain't never popped in LA. You sound like a causal for even believing some shyt like that.

And lol @ the thread ain't about mobb when you're there one who derailed it by even bringing them up.

That’s the second time somebody said that. I didn’t bring up Mobb Deep, @pegasus did.

 

[Chris Cool]

That’s the second time somebody said that. I didn’t bring up Mobb Deep, @pegasus did.

my bad then.

 

[Tommy Sheppard]

Ok. If we are being strict to the point that only Infamous is a classic album, then 36 definitely does not have a classic album.

So Who Run It is on par with Shook Ones and Quiet Storm? Because of some goofy social media thing? What was that even all about anyway? I don't even remember.

36 does not have any universal across the board classics. Southern classics? Definitely. I'm not arguing that.
But 36 was a C level group until they dropped that album in 2005. And what was that album called? Most Known Unknowns. They acknowledged it themselves.

I'm not a 36 fan. But I was cognizant when they came on the national stage in 97. I thought they were comedically bad at the time. Some of their beats/songs are dope though. I've tried listening to their albums; its not for me.

you the homie but this is 100% false.

 

[28 Gramz]

Mobb Deep was never an A List group. A List in that era was Pac,Nas,Biggie,Fugees,Bone Thugs,WuTang and Snoop. If you wanna go late 90s add in Mase, Jay, DMX,Missy,Jay,Puff,Cash Money and Master P.

Quiet Storm remix was the peak of their popularity,in their actual prime they were mostly regional just like Three Six. The west and south wasn't bumping no damn Mobb Deep from 94-96.

 

[Wacky D]

Post a video of somebody free styling over that beat before the challenge.

Mobb Deep was nationwide from jump. And A level when Shook Ones dropped.
At what point before 2005 was 36 higher than C level?

that's the thing.

most of these 3-6 mafia stans weren't around in real-time.
they either got into them because of that random Oscar or because their favorite current trash rappers big them up.

as someone who actually supported 3-6 in real-time, I can tell most of these dudes are some frauds and prolly don't have half the retail material from this group that I have(if these broke L7s have any of their stuff at all).

Dogg pound post dogg food are as regional as it gets. My pops ain't causal at all. "Grade A east coast grimey shyt" ain't never popped in LA. You sound like a causal for even believing some shyt like that.

And lol @ the thread ain't about mobb when you're there one who derailed it by even bringing them up.

lol @ dogg pound dogg food being anywhere near regional.

mob deep wasn't regional either.

these were the top two duos in the game during the last golden era.​

@mobbinfms
@Wacky D

bytchass peabrain fukkboi with 2 equally retarded aliasses

this is stuff that you need to pull up and say to my face.

otherwise, stay on topic and talk like you got some sense. weirdo.

 

[PHamm]

Top 5 all time. Set the blueprint for modern day trap muzik including beats and flows

 

[Chris Cool]

that's the thing.

most of these 3-6 mafia stans weren't around in real-time.
they either got into them because of that random Oscar or because their favorite current trash rappers big them up.

as someone who actually supported 3-6 in real-time, I can tell most of these dudes are some frauds and prolly don't have half the retail material from this group that I have(if these broke L7s have any of their stuff at all).

lol @ dogg pound dogg food being anywhere near regional.

mob deep wasn't regional either.

these were the top two duos in the game during the last golden era.​

this is stuff that you need to pull up and say to my face.

otherwise, stay on topic and talk like you got some sense. weirdo.

I said everything they've done post dogg food is regional. And even with the g-unit backing mob deep was regional.

 

[JustCKing]

Dogg Pound's popularity is being overstated here. They were huge during the Dogg Food run. It was downhill from there and a much of their appeal came from Death Row running the game with Snoop being an unofficial member. Everything post Dogg Food was nowhere near a big deal and the solos even with Kurupt dropping a solo didn't reach the heights of Dogg Food.

 

[Wacky D]

I said everything they've done post dogg food is regional. And even with the g-unit backing mob deep was regional.

I see that you said it now. I missed it the 1st time because of your typo.

but we're dealing with their heydays. dogg pound solos came years later. mob deep on g-unit was WAY later. they were beyond washed by that point.

now where was 3-6 mafia in their heyday?? a C-List group, and bottom-feeder B-List at best. all these people acting like they were some dons, are half their age.

Dogg Pound's popularity is being overstated here. They were huge during the Dogg Food run. It was downhill from there and a much of their appeal came from Death Row running the game with Snoop being an unofficial member. Everything post Dogg Food was nowhere near a big deal and the solos even with Kurupt dropping a solo didn't reach the heights of Dogg Food.

they had an incomplete run as a group, but theyre not overstated.

and youre over-looking the fact that they were red hot for 3 years leading up to the album.
and lets not act like they were snoop sidekicks. kurupt outshined snoop on darn near every track they did together on death row. and dat nicca daz was a top producer in his prime.​

 

[28 Gramz]

Mobb Deep was never a big deal like that outside of the tristate with Quiet Storm and the shyt died right back down after that. Alot of nikkas didn't even know about them until Pac dissed them on Hit em up.

I see that you said it now. I missed it the 1st time because of your typo.

but we're dealing with their heydays. dogg pound solos came years later. mob deep on g-unit was WAY later. they were beyond washed by that point.

now where was 3-6 mafia in their heyday?? a C-List group, and bottom-feeder B-List at best. all these people acting like they were some dons, are half their age.

they had an incomplete run as a group, but theyre not overstated.

and youre over-looking the fact that they were red hot for 3 years leading up to the album.
and lets not act like they were snoop sidekicks. kurupt outshined snoop on darn near every track they did together on death row. and dat nicca daz was a top producer in his prime.​

Three Six's heyday was 2000-2001 with the back to back releases of When The Smoke Clears and Mista Don't Play (Pat wasn't in the official group but you get the point). They were just as popular as Mobb Deep ever was at their peak popularity. Not sure why you acting like Mobb was ever anything above a gold selling niche NY group outside of one national hit record.

 

[Xerces]

Mobb Deep got no burn at anypoint in their careers down in my part of Florida

 

[JustCKing]

I see that you said it now. I missed it the 1st time because of your typo.

but we're dealing with their heydays. dogg pound solos came years later. mob deep on g-unit was WAY later. they were beyond washed by that point.

now where was 3-6 mafia in their heyday?? a C-List group, and bottom-feeder B-List at best. all these people acting like they were some dons, are half their age.

they had an incomplete run as a group, but theyre not overstated.

and youre over-looking the fact that they were red hot for 3 years leading up to the album.
and lets not act like they were snoop sidekicks. kurupt outshined snoop on darn near every track they did together on death row. and dat nicca daz was a top producer in his prime.​

They didn't have an incomplete run. Dogg Food was their ceiling given where Death Row went after that album dropped specifically Snoop's trajectory. Them being red hot was mostly attributed to Death Row being red Hot. Pretty much everything they dropped was hot.

Kurupt outshining Snoop lyrically on a song is neither here or there. Snoop was still a bigger star and was easily one of, if not most charismatic rappers of his time. Snoop was the star of The Chronic and Doggystyle had him as one of the biggest rappers out. Not too many are matching what Snoop was at that time.

 

[JustCKing]

Mobb Deep was never a big deal like that outside of the tristate with Quiet Storm and the shyt died right back down after that. Alot of nikkas didn't even know about them until Pac dissed them on Hit em up.


Three Six's heyday was 2000-2001 with the back to back releases of When The Smoke Clears and Mista Don't Play (Pat wasn't in the official group but you get the point). They were just as popular as Mobb Deep ever was at their peak popularity. Not sure why you acting like Mobb was ever anything above a gold selling niche NY group outside of one national hit record.

Mobb Deep had "Shook Ones Pt. 2" which was a big deal. Sure, a lot of people down here weren't into them like that even if they loved that song, but Mobb Deep was beyond regional with Infamous. Hell On Earth might've been a bit more regional and created more for niche audience, but they had a few hits before "Quiet Storm", which catapulted them platinum.