Where do Juicy J and DJ Paul rank as Hip Hop producers?

[28 Gramz]

They are as innovative soul sampling or arguably better than rza or dilla combined.
Next their actual music has stayed a staple of black music.
Whereas once the fire occurred for rza.
Plus rza had to go alternative because once he lost his shyt in said fire.

He never recovered.
just like tip never recovered from his flood or fire
Excuse me if I get whether rza or tip had a flood or fire. It has been years since I thought to remember the exact circumstances of their loss to their vinyl and files.
Plus, rza's workrate was never on par with the bulk larger volume workrate of Paul and juice.
Speaking of workrate...
They work considerably faster and in larger bulk than anyone you can name that is perceived from nostalgia over them.

Plus their workrate sonically is ahead, on par and even better than anyone you can name to try to dispute as, well.
Plus they learned to create and mix live instruments into the fold of their sound.
Without losing a step of their edge production wise, or sonically.

Plus mastered it faster than anyone in rap, history as well.

Whereas, it is not the same dre who made no one can do it better, or nikka, for life at all.

Nex, they etched out an entire sound for a region that still is and will always be relevant. Without selling out or glossing up that sound to appease a pop crowd.

Like I said earlier...
People maybe resistant to the facts or the discography. Yet right now I could make a case for them being the goats.
Yet, I feel others could raise an argument based on the past.

Instead of the consistency to the here and now. Including the full past and timeline.
As I feel trap rap is nothingnore than horrorcore by style beat'em up anthem chant ny style rap. Similar to a legion record, with horrorcore score and sample base at its core.
Based on consistency, workrate, relevency to the future, discography....
Right now, I could make a case for them being the best ever and I would be factually accurate to do so.

You really are just being your dispute upon nostalgia.

When real talk, the facts point to right now juicy and Paul being rap's goat producers rather easily.

No one over the course of their career is as versatile, innovative sonically, with the workrate to factually win the argument against juicy j and Paul.

For nostalgia sake I will honor the idea of:

dilla
Rza
Primo
Bomb squad
Marley marl
Are

As being close or the goat

Yet real talk,...the real long term goat producers in rap is;

Juicy j and DJ Paul

Nobody you can name can fukk with them, when the points of the argument are legitimately raised.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

preciate it ,....handshake.


Art Barr

 

[SEC Hater]

Somewhere between 10 and 15

 

[BigSteve]

If you took their average soul sampled beats and put Rick Ross on the vocals most Coli members would praise it as groundbreaking. And you'd barely be scratching the surface of the tip of the tip of the iceberg for these two.

 

[JustCKing]

Love their work, but they are Top 20-25 to me. They are definitely underrated, but so is Earthtone III. Most don't even know that they (OutKast and Mr. DJ) did the bulk of Aquemini, Stankonia, and Speakerboxxx/Love Below. They also did work on other Dungeon Family releases and other artists. Organized Noize, Mike Dean, and Beats by the Pound are also underrated. In fact, some of those guys are more underrated.

 

[Art Barr]

Love their work, but they are Top 20-25 to me. They are definitely underrated, but so is Earthtone III. Most don't even know that they (OutKast and Mr. DJ) did the bulk of Aquemini, Stankonia, and Speakerboxxx/Love Below. They also did work on other Dungeon Family releases and other artists. Organized Noize, Mike Dean, and Beats by the Pound are also underrated. In fact, some of those guys are more underrated.

During that time,...

Triple six still had better production.
Plus beats by the pound were mostly cut and paste ghetto whistle dr dre copied template records.
Also, you really can not name me one kast record that rivals the legion of known or unknown triple six records.

juicy j and Paul beat are all trance inducing.
Nobody in the history of rap has that quality.
They are so good,....i looked past the anemiac lyrical quality of most people on their work.

Name me another producer I was able to stomach doing that for.
Consistently over the entire course of their career.
Example, i did it once for primo....
For triple6,... I do it damn near every record.
To the point pat is my guiltiest wtf pleasure in rap history.
Nobody in the south is seeing triple six period on production, EVER!!
All time after it is all said and done.
Nobody will be seeing triple six in the goat argument either.


Art Barr

 

[Lavish]

Project Pat Ft. Gangsta Boo - Ballers - YouTube

Project pat - Chickenhead - YouTube

Project Pat-Dont Save Her - YouTube

La Chat - You Aint Mad Iz Ya - YouTube


And I ain't even posted none of the non singles yet. These cats production is that $hit.

Ballers is produced by mannie fresh breh

But they definately top 10 producers

 

[krackdagawd]

Def top 5 and GOAT workout music

 

[Obtain Knowledge]

Ballers is produced by mannie fresh breh

But they definately top 10 producers

Opps, yep that's right.

 

[Insensitive]

I have the 3-6-Mafia retail albums someone put me up
on their underground work, I might have to check that out.....

 

[DoomzdayzV]

PURE fukkING EVIL ON WAX

 

[Breh Obama]

nikkas dont even know that paul and juice can mix and master as well

and this shyt right here is just

 

[HalfwayHandsome]

In front of eminem. Smh

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Arguably the GOATs, one of the few you could actually call super producers. This was the track that did it for me...

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Haven't really sat down to think about it..but I know for a fact that a great deal of people that I would place them above would anger the Big Mel types of the world