when you compare the finals opponents of Lebron, Jordan and Kobe

[Dwight Howard]

lets take a good look at 2 of those 5 rings



You tryna tell me Bron couldn't have done this


2000 NBA Finals

Shaq- 38 PPG, 17 RPG, 2.5 APG, 2.7 BPG, 61% FG 96/157----6 games
Kobe-16 PPG, 5 RPG, 4 APG, 1.4 BPG, 36% FG%, 33/90----5 games

2001 NBA Finals

Shaq- 33 PPG, 16 RPG, 5 APG, 3.5 BPG, 63/110 57% FG-----5 games
Kobe- 24 PPG, 8 RPG, 6 APG, 1.4 BPG, 44/106 41% FG------5 games

5-3 > 3-6

 

[Trojan 24]

Leandro Barbosa did.

Nash and Amare didn't exist I guess

 

[Shadow King]

Bosh and Love are number one options. With that logic anyone who didn’t win a ring weren’t number one options in hindsight. Was Barkley not a number one option? Patrick Ewing? Gary Payton? Reggie Miller? Clyde Drexler? If Love was still in Minnesota with all the guys they have now, they’d be a dangerous team. If Bosh was still in Toronto with all the guys they have now, they’d be a dangerous team. Both dudes were averaging like 22 & 8. That’s Tim Duncan numbers.

This is the issue with the "stacked deck", narrative Bron haters run with. Breh...Bosh has 2 First Round exits in 7 years as the man with no more appearances. Love has no playoff appearances. In 13 seasons of basketball between them there's 3 playoff wins total. And you're comparing them to cats who made runs to the Finals.

 

[Shadow King]

5-3 > 3-6

By this logic:
Sam Jones > Kobe
Havlicek > Kobe
Pippen > Kobe

Correct?

 

[Reece]

This is the issue with the "stacked deck", narrative Bron haters run with. Breh...Bosh has 2 First Round exits in 7 years as the man with no more appearances. Love has no playoff appearances. In 13 seasons of basketball between them there's 3 playoff wins total. And you're comparing them to cats who made runs to the Finals.

You don't know what Love or Bosh would've did, they cut their solo careers short playing with Bron for 5 plus years.

Besides, I can just bring up players who didn't make the Finals. Was Alonzo Mourning not a first option (not counting that gimme ring he got in 2006)? Was Dominique Wilkins not a first option? Was Stephon Marbury not a first option? Was T-Mac not a first option? That logic is real shaky.

 

[Darealtwo1]

By this logic:
Sam Jones > Kobe
Havlicek > Kobe
Pippen > Kobe

Correct?

your wasting yur time....I asked him a legit question if he thinks Bron could have don what Kobe did the first 2 rings and he just trolled

He's trolling

 

[Shadow King]

You don't know what Love or Bosh would've did, they cut their solo careers short playing with Bron for 5 plus years.

Besides, I can just bring up players who didn't make the Finals. Was Alonzo Mourning not a first option (not counting that gimme ring he got in 2006)? Was Dominique Wilkins not a first option? Was Stephon Marbury not a first option? Was T-Mac not a first option? That logic is real shaky.

7 and 6 years is enough. Being a first option on garbage teams =/= being one on contending teams. Bosh missed the offs in his last 2 years in Toronto meaning there was no positive trend. They weren't gonna do shyt.

No to Alonzo. He would've been better served being a #2.
Yes to Nique but he was Melo before Melo in being a great scorer who didn't do much else.
Marbury; see Alonzo, matter of fact being a PG in that era he might've even been better served being #3.
T-Mac was a first option, he had poor luck with the health of Grant Hill in Orlando and himself in Houston.

You're also in here saying Pippen wasn't half as talented as Wade so I shouldn't even be taking you serious.

 

[10bandz]

Bron fans showing they ass again

 

[TheNig]

Bron fans showing they ass again

This is why I'm out bruh. These nikkas are terrible. They soft as shyt too. They make it seem like it's ok to lose whether the circumstances favor him or they don't.

Like Kobe once said... Figure that shyt out.

 

[Reece]

7 and 6 years is enough. Being a first option on garbage teams =/= being one on contending teams. Bosh missed the offs in his last 2 years in Toronto meaning there was no positive trend. They weren't gonna do shyt.

No to Alonzo. He would've been better served being a #2.
Yes to Nique but he was Melo before Melo in being a great scorer who didn't do much else.
Marbury; see Alonzo, matter of fact being a PG in that era he might've even been better served being #3.
T-Mac was a first option, he had poor luck with the health of Grant Hill in Orlando and himself in Houston.

You're also in here saying Pippen wasn't half as talented as Wade so I shouldn't even be taking you serious.

I’m not gonna bother to reply to your points because your logic is full of holes.

Wade is and was a superstar. At worst a top 3 shooting guard. Pippen wasn’t a superstar and is not a top 5 anything. I’ll give him top 10 small forward. It’s pretty cut and dry

 

[Draje]

ok now do it for all playoff opponents..

I thought the finals is when legends are made.

 

[TheNig]

I thought the finals is when legends are made.

If that's the case then the only numbers that should matter are

6 and 0

5 and 2

3 and 6.

 

[Shadow King]

I’m not gonna bother to reply to your points because your logic is full of holes.

Wade is and was a superstar. At worst a top 3 shooting guard. Pippen wasn’t a superstar and is not a top 5 anything. I’ll give him top 10 small forward. It’s pretty cut and dry

Because you can't.

You cannot definitively name 5 SFs better than Pippen, but that's based talent+accolades and the point is solely talent. Pippen has just as much talent as any other ATG but didn't have the drive to be the alpha dog, though playing next to Jordan he didn't have to.

 

[TheNig]

Because you can't.

You cannot definitively name 5 SFs better than Pippen, but that's based talent+accolades and the point is solely talent. Pippen has just as much talent as any other ATG but didn't have the drive to be the alpha dog, though playing next to Jordan he didn't have to.

KD
LeBron
Legend
Dr. J
Elgin

 

[Shadow King]

KD
LeBron
Legend
Dr. J
Elgin

No

And for as many people who say Elgin could ball in any era there are just as many who say no because of the difference in eras. Also Elgin is 0-7 in the Finals so by Kobe Stan logic isn't Pippen better?