Who wins

  • Cavs in 4

    Votes: 15 3.5%
  • Warriors in 4

    Votes: 91 21.5%
  • Cavs in 5

    Votes: 2 0.5%
  • Warriors in 5

    Votes: 161 38.1%
  • Cavs in 6

    Votes: 38 9.0%
  • Warriors in 6

    Votes: 45 10.6%
  • Cavs in 7

    Votes: 64 15.1%
  • Warriors in 7

    Votes: 7 1.7%

  • Total voters
    423
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This series is over tonight. Lebron played well but his team is terrible. Defensively, they might be the worst to make the playoffs.

I got the Warriors in a blowout. Steph takes back Finals MVP. Start up the draft/free agency talks
 

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This series is over tonight. Lebron played well but his team is terrible. Defensively, they might be the worst to make the playoffs.

I got the Warriors in a blowout. Steph takes back Finals MVP. Start up the draft/free agency talks
They legit are the worst ever. There’d never been a team that was bottom 3 in defensive rating at mid season to make the playoffs before, let alone the finals. For a decent stretch this season, they were on pace to set the record for worst defensive rating ever.
 

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I kinda want the Dubs to lose tonight

Don't nobody want to celebrate winning another Finals in Cleveland, word to Joachim Noah

Lose tonight for the coronation at home in Game 5
Nah the streets need to see GS turn the lights out on this corny ass "Cleveland era" the right way, run them off the floor
 

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Jalen Rose just said he thinks KD will win Finals MVP. I hope he’s right. Lol.
 

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LeBron shouldn't even play tonight after one of them weak ass teammates say if they have kyrie they'll be up 3 - 0...

Damn nikkas have no heart to compete and showing they could go up against golden state
 

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Game 1 killed their willpower in my opinion. Game 2 they put a good fight for a while but honestly seeing how many stars GSW has, its not even fun to watch them. Not hating, they did it the right way through the draft and FA but adding KD is pretty much unfair, way more potent than LeBron with the heat but in the general sense it's same. "NOT 1,2,3,or 4", Lebrons words...

I know he's frustrated as hell but if he does stay in CLE he can't go thru what he did this year. Again If he goes WEST then that will make the NBA more unwatchable in my opinion. To me his logical choices are to figure out a way to add a guy who can create his own shot. Even if he goes to philly, you really think embiid & simmons will be ready for a loaded boston team or even worse HOU or GS?

I agree with kobe, LeBron is ball dominant that he has made EVERYONE he played with spot up shooters, look at what happen to bosh's game when he went to Miami, K-love the same. Hood couldn't get in the rotation,etc... Right constructed I don't know what wiggle room they have roster wise to sway him, maybe derozen from Toronto or power move for kwahi.
I think Lebron has to lose his obsession with his stats. He has to decide if he wants to put up numbers or win basically. He has to stop trying to do everything and empower teammates and play within the flow of an actual offense. He has to be part of a system and stop trying to be the system.

Just adding a guy who can create his shot isn't enough. Last year he had Kyrie and still lost 4-1.

The Cavs need more two way players. Lebron has to stop being so obsessed with having shooters around him and get more players who can play both ways even if they aren't great three point shooters. He has to play less minutes and actually commit to playing more defense even if it means him doing less on offense. He has to play less minutes. Not than he can't play more but it's good for the team to get used to playing with him not on the floor and giving them a chance to develop an identity without him. That shyt doesn't happen overnight. Pop showed he's willing to lose games during the regular season in order to build these identities for the long run.
 

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Oh no question Game 1 was awful for morale. There's legitimate criticism that Lebron could've rallied the troops in that time before overtime, but I'm sympathetic - that was a massive team collapse after playing a damn near perfect game. That shyt would probably break anyone but a complete psychopath.

Agree on Game 2 - no way they were winning that.

Kobe's criticism is fair - just had a chance to read that piece he was interviewed for in the New York Times.

I've always thought that because Lebron is so damn good at everything, the way for him to work with whatever talent he's got on the roster is to first identify their particular strengths. If they're rhythm shooters, let them get into a rhythm. If they're good finishers, let them work that drive and kick play he's got down pat. If they bang in the post, then let them do that. And so on down the line. Once those strengths have been identified, then Lebron steps in to fill any gaps - whether its shooting (he's a damn good shooter now, its incredible how much he's progressed), passing, post play, driving to the rim, whatever. Because of his size and dexterity, dude can legit play (as well as guard) 1-5. He's a human Swiss Army Knife.

Then at the end of games, if shyt is close or guys are having off nights, give Lebron carte blanche to take over and just do all that amazing Lebron shyt (like that pass to himself off the backboard with the dunk finish :banderas:)

This is sort of like how Belichick approaches building & fielding a football team - he fires scouts and coordinators that tell him all the things a player can't do. His focus is always on what they can do, and then putting them into a position to succeed given those talents. He's got the GOAT QB that can get any of them the ball anywhere it needs to be, so he can stay 100% focused on how to leverage that amazing asset into wins.

I know its a bit counterintuitive to focus on players other than your all-time great superstar when thinking about the sort of offense you're trying to build...but I really think it could work just because of how amazing Lebron is.
Great post. Exactly what I've been saying about Lebron dating back to the Miami days. Lebron is so great at so many things why not play to the strength of your teammates and let them cook while filling in the gaps and making up for their deficiencies. Especially with the Cavs the last few years with Love and Irving being horrible defensively but good to great offensive players with the ball in their hands. Let them use their energies on offense while focusing on being great defensively and causing havoc. Be a Draymond on defense anchoring the D and a greatly souped up Draymond on offense using the attention Kyrie and Love would generate to create for the others on the court and still get 22-26.
 
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