When The Smoke Clears Will LeBron Join 3-6 Mafia? Cavs vs Warriors IV In The NBA Finals

Who wins

  • Cavs in 4

    Votes: 15 3.5%

  • Warriors in 4

    Votes: 91 21.5%

  • Cavs in 5

    Votes: 2 0.5%

  • Warriors in 5

    Votes: 161 38.1%

  • Cavs in 6

    Votes: 38 9.0%

  • Warriors in 6

    Votes: 45 10.6%

  • Cavs in 7

    Votes: 64 15.1%

  • Warriors in 7

    Votes: 7 1.7%
  • Total voters
    423
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GunRanger said:
His TS% was 61%. 17 of his 26 shots were 3s. It's because he took so little FTs his efficiency was more impressive
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Durant had a TS% of 82 for that game and the series for reference :russ:


Curry has a 59 TS% for the series, Klay is at 72 TS % for the series

Stop it slime :dead:
 
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threattonature said:
I think Lebron has to lose his obsession with his stats. He has to decide if he wants to put up numbers or win basically. He has to stop trying to do everything and empower teammates and play within the flow of an actual offense. He has to be part of a system and stop trying to be the system.

Just adding a guy who can create his shot isn't enough. Last year he had Kyrie and still lost 4-1.

The Cavs need more two way players. Lebron has to stop being so obsessed with having shooters around him and get more players who can play both ways even if they aren't great three point shooters.
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Ya'all really take this "LeGM " stuff seriously. :dead:

So the Cavs front office is putting 2-way players up in front of Lebron and Lebron is turning them down? Who are these two-way players that Lebron was keeping the Cavs from getting?

Where do you get the idea that Lebron has forced the Cavs to only get shooters? These are the players (not counting borderline D-league guys) that Cleveland has acquired the last two years:

Calderon
Rose
IT
Clarkson
Hill
Wade
Hood
Cedi
Crowder
Nance
Zizic
Deron Williams
Korver
Jefferson
Derrick Williams

The only guy you could call a pure "shooter" in there is Korver. Hill/Hood/Crowder can shoot a little bit but they're the closest thing to two-way players on the whole list, IT can shoot with no D but Lebron sure as hell didn't sign off on acquiring him. If Lebron is "obsessed" with getting shooters around him, how has that possibly affected any of the personnel acquisitions the last two years?

I agree that Cleveland's front office has been terrible with acquisitions, especially since they forced Griffin out. He was working on PG13, Butler, and Bledsoe - the exact kind of players Bron wanted and needed. Trading Kyrie away for pieces that couldn't help them win a title this year, and then failing to flip those pieces immediately while they were still valuable, was sheer incompetence.
 
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threattonature said:
I think Lebron has to lose his obsession with his stats. He has to decide if he wants to put up numbers or win basically. He has to stop trying to do everything and empower teammates and play within the flow of an actual offense. He has to be part of a system and stop trying to be the system.

Just adding a guy who can create his shot isn't enough. Last year he had Kyrie and still lost 4-1.

The Cavs need more two way players. Lebron has to stop being so obsessed with having shooters around him and get more players who can play both ways even if they aren't great three point shooters. He has to play less minutes and actually commit to playing more defense even if it means him doing less on offense. He has to play less minutes. Not than he can't play more but it's good for the team to get used to playing with him not on the floor and giving them a chance to develop an identity without him. That shyt doesn't happen overnight. Pop showed he's willing to lose games during the regular season in order to build these identities for the long run.
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Excellent post that highlights the issues with Bron Ball.
 
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threattonature said:
I think Lebron has to lose his obsession with his stats. He has to decide if he wants to put up numbers or win basically. He has to stop trying to do everything and empower teammates and play within the flow of an actual offense. He has to be part of a system and stop trying to be the system.

Just adding a guy who can create his shot isn't enough. Last year he had Kyrie and still lost 4-1.

The Cavs need more two way players. Lebron has to stop being so obsessed with having shooters around him and get more players who can play both ways even if they aren't great three point shooters. He has to play less minutes and actually commit to playing more defense even if it means him doing less on offense. He has to play less minutes. Not than he can't play more but it's good for the team to get used to playing with him not on the floor and giving them a chance to develop an identity without him. That shyt doesn't happen overnight. Pop showed he's willing to lose games during the regular season in order to build these identities for the long run.
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Powerful post
 
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panopticon said:
I think when coaches face other teams known to have a history of high-level coaching & ability to make in-game adjustments, they often outsmart themselves.

I saw exactly what you did in that Pats/ATL Super Bowl. I think the ATL defensive staff, rather than continuing to do what worked after halftime, thought they were being clever by making a defensive adjustment in anticipation of a Pats offensive adjustment. Made them feel like they were a "step ahead" of Belichick & Co.

Belichick might actually be aware of this, and almost bait the coaching staff of the opposing team into doing this very thing by continuing with a clearly ineffective approach until halftime. That would be some slick shyt TBH.

Shyt gets real weird and meta after a couple of iterations...one big chess match, with each side attempting to anticipate the anticipation of the other side.
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Exactly what happened to my Jags on the AFC championship game
 
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