when talking about top nba players why isnt clyde drexler talked about?

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Well, he was a SG and the primary job description of that position is to score.

People are saying he was the 2nd best SG of his era, not a few specific seasons. Era covers a lot of ground...for instance you have people in this thread saying Clyde was "way better" than Mitch. His numbers dont reflect that at all. Clyde was overrated.

:usure: In Mitch Richmond's 14 years in the league, he went to the playoffs 4 times and only 1 out of the 4 was he the main player. 2 was with Hardaway and Mullin and 1 was with the Lakers.
 

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Im not defending a position that Richmond was way better than Clyde tho. Im saying they were comparable. Sure, Clyde had a couple of monster years that trump Mitch, but taking a comprehensive view of their respective careers, in no way can I say that Clyde was clear notch above.

Clyde lead his team to final twice and WON a championship. Mitch never even made it out of the 3rd round :aicmon:
 

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:usure: In Mitch Richmond's 14 years in the league, he went to the playoffs 4 times and only 1 out of the 4 was he the main player. 2 was with Hardaway and Mullin and 1 was with the Lakers.

He played on awful kings and bullets teams that had no chance at the playoffs....Clyde's teams were loaded.
 

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Drexlers Blazer's team was more stacked than Jordan's Bulls.

he didn't win because he wasn't on Zeke, Magic, nor Jordan's level. plain and simple.

Drexler is more of a Scottie Pippen than Jordan so that why he won a titles as a "Pippen" when he was playing for the Rockets.

:what: Which team had more HOFers? Which team had more Allstars? Which team had the better shooter?
 

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:what: Which team had more HOFers? Which team had more Allstars? Which team had the better shooter?

Or maybe Jordan had them guys play a lot better

The Blazers had no fillers and talent across the roster. Stacked means more talent "2004 pistons" not talent up top "2001 Lakers"
 

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Clyde drexler was the only allstar for the blazers both years they made the finals in 90 and 92. No one else was on the allstar for those particuliar years

:comeon:

My bad, you right, Porter and Duckworth made in 91. i thought it was in 92.
 

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Or maybe Jordan had them guys play a lot better

The Blazers had no fillers and talent across the roster. Stacked means more talent "2004 pistons" not talent up top "2001 Lakers"

GTFO with that bullshyt. Jordan made Pippen play better Defense? Jordan made Grant rebound better? Jordan made Paxon a 3 pt shooter? :childplease:

And that 2001 Lakers had just as many HOFers as that Bulls team
 

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from 90-92, they were:

top 5 in scoring

top 5 in rebounding

09-10 lakers were:

3rd and 12th in scoring respectively.

top 2 in rebounding

you're so full of shyt. you'll be the same one saying terry porter would a top-5 PG in this era.

Again the 90 Pistons and 92 Bulls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09 Magic and 10 Celtics by a wide gaping margin.

Again competition matters, the lakers played a magic team that got to the finals because KG blew out his knee, and a celtic team that lost their center in the 2nd quarter of game 6.
 

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1) Name those years. This is just a flat out lie. Scottie Pippen never folded in the playoffs in his Bulls career.


2) Actually, in 1995, the Bulls were 34-31 before Jordan came back and as far as 1 good season without Jordan.....Scottie Pippen was an All-Star AGAIN and averaging at the time 22.1 ppg, 8.2 rebs, 5.1 assts, 2.9 stls, and 1.2 blks without Jordan:ufdup:

The Bulls actually LOST their first game with Jordan back to the Pacers in OT (Jordan went 7-28 FG...smh. Ball hogging in his first game back lol).

They Bulls were also never in danger of NOT making the playoffs, in reality.

On the morning of March 19th, 1995 (Jordan's return date) The Bulls were in the 6th spot at 34-31. The Magic were 1st at 48-17, the Knicks were 2nd at 42-21, the Pacers were 3rd at 39-24, the Hornets were 4th at 39-25, the Cavs were 5th at 36-27, the Hawks were 7th at 32-32, and the Celtics were 8th at 25-39.

When Jordan came back, the Bulls only switched from 6th seed to 5th seed with the Cavs....it wasnt some miraculous turnaround:manny:


3) No he wasnt.



4) Scottie was just a rookie in his first year...what did you expect him to do?:russ:


In his 2nd year (14.4 pts, 6.1 rebs, 3.5 assts, 1.9 stls) and 3rd year (regular season: 16.5 pts, 6.7 rebs, 5.4 assts, 2.6 stls, and 1.2 blks....playoffs: 19.3 pts, 7.2 rebs, 5.5 assts, 2.1 stls, and 1.3 blks) he WAS a good player.


What you talking about breh?:ohhh:

Now, I know you gotta be young.

THE WHOLE WORLD considered Scottie Pippen to be soft until they won in '91

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2. Yes, The Bulls were BARELY over .500 in an East that was nowhere near what it was in the heyday of the Celtics, 76ers, and Pistons in the '80s. Jordan came back and lifted them to only the 3rd place team in the Central Division.

They were running on empty


3. And yes, Scottie was in his rookie year, but he didn't even make the ALL-ROOKIE team his rookie year. He wasn't even one of the 10 best rookies in his draft class at the time.

Derrick McKey had a better rookie season than he did.

And since when is averaging 14 and 16 points per game make you all that in the NBA? Especially back then when teams used to regularly score 110 points a game?

Like I said, he was nowhere near a great player until his 3rd and 4th years after years of Jordan and Oakley bullying him and pushing him to get better, or else :youngsabo:

so now you gonna underrate his teammates?

u stay rewriting history.

So, wait?

Clyde played with Shaq, LeBron, and Chris Bosh caliber players now?

I don't think so.

Any one of those players is better than ANYBODY Clyde played with until he got to Houston to play with an old Hakeem Olajuwon.

i didn't duck shyt. drexler had a better squad than the 06 heat, and probably better than the 09/10 laker squads, was apart of the best backcourt duo at that time, and he couldn't get it done.

he wasn't on their level. get over it.

HAHAHAHA

Shaq alone deads that argument, and so does Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.

Please.

The best backcourt of the time was Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars

lol @ iverson not being in kobe's league.

those nuggets squads were indeed top 3 teams in the west those years. they were basically a better version of what the clippers are to the west coast now, but without the hype.

lol @ the idea that pippen was magically molded into a hall of famer by jordan & oakley. if thats the case, then why didnt they do the same for their other teammates?

the bul newzz covered the rest already.



you would do the same thing of you were in pippen's shoes tho.

1. They never made it out of the first round of the playoffs. End of discussion.

2. Who else did they need to make into a Hall of Famer?

Jordan came in '84, Oakley in '85, and Pippen in '87.

It's not like they had 10 years or something to mold other players. They just realized with Pippen and Horace Grant that the Bulls were never gonna get them any help and so they stopped bytching about it and got to work on Pippen.

Once Pippen finally stopped playing like a bytch in the playoffs in 1991, it was on. Unfortunately, Oak had to leave before that, but Pippen himself will tell you about how big a role Oak had on those old Bulls teams.
 
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