When Floyd Mayweather retires...

[krackdagawd]

nikkas like ali, mike and floyd got both .. do u wanna be a household name or just a nikka who was good boxer nikka could be on his way to half a billion by now secure your future breh

#SOG is not going to be something he is not for $, if you ask me that is more honorable than acting like a buffoon. It's not like he is broke, let him cook.

There are plenty of all time great fighters who didn't have to do any of that breh.

 

[Jello Biafra]

My comment was talking about the 90's era heavies and you know that I didn' retract anythintg you fukking imbecile
I got numbers to back up my statements
Oscar always had drawing power what are you talking

Oscar's numbers have nothing to do with the heavyweight division and all to do with him

Your stupid ass doesn't even realize that the divisions don't affect each other, people want to see stars, thats it, doesn't matter what weight they are fighting

if the heavyweights had stars now, mayweather would still be just as big, you're a fukking moron if you think otherwise

I completely forgot how truly confounding it was to have direct interaction with you and your complete lack of reading comprehension coupled with Floyd Mayweather's balls constantly being in your mouth.

 

[Black_Jesus]

My comment was talking about the 90's era heavies and you know that I didn't retract anythintg you fukking imbecile
I got numbers to back up my statements
Oscar always had drawing power what are you talking

Oscar's numbers have nothing to do with the heavyweight division and all to do with him

Your stupid ass doesn't even realize that the divisions don't affect each other, people want to see stars, thats it, doesn't matter what weight they are fighting

if the heavyweights had stars now, mayweather would still be just as big, you're a fukking moron if you think otherwise

Nah nikka dont even try it, you been backtracking this entire thread.. First you posted that Oscar had some record before Floyed.. That was quickly debunked.. then you posted this...

DLH was a bigger star than any other heavyweight besides Tyson, the NUMBERS DON't LIE

And when I brought up Ali you went as far as to say this

Ali fought on Free TV

So which is it?? Was Oscar bigger than Ali?? If not, why did you make the "free tv" comment

And like Im gonna say it again... Oscar was not a bigger star than Holyfield nor Lewis during the 90s heavyweight era.. you can post all the ppv numbers you want.. that nikka didn't hit a million until 99.. that doesn't overshadow 90-98... Also the only reason nikkas like Floyd and Oscar are able to pull those type of numbers is by exploting the Mexican (spanish) fan base.. that era of heavyweights accomplished what they did with out the core Mexican fanbase.. and they(Oscar and Floyd) did this when the HW division fell off.. believe there's no connection if you want to

 

[Master Teacher]

I completely forgot how truly confounding it was to have direct interaction with you and your complete lack of reading comprehension coupled with Floyd Mayweather's balls constantly being in your mouth.

We weren't even talk about floyd, get off the man dikks, hate is purest form of envy you know

Hit me back when Wilder becomes the next tyson, you dumb ass motherfukka

 

[krackdagawd]

We weren't even talk about floyd, get off the man dikks

Have I entered a parallel universe

 

[Master Teacher]

Nah nikka dont even try it, you been backtracking this entire thread.. First you posted that Oscar had some record before Floyed.. That was quickly debunked.. then you posted this...

And when I brought up Ali you went as far as to say this
So which is it?? Was Oscar bigger than Ali?? If not, why did you make the "free tv" comment

And like Im gonna say it again... Oscar was not a bigger star than Holyfield nor Lewis during the 90s heavyweight era.. you can post all the ppv numbers you want.. that nikka didn't hit a million until 99.. that doesn't overshadow 90-98... Also the only reason nikkas like Floyd and Oscar are able to pull those type of numbers is by exploting the Mexican (spanish) fan base.. that era of heavyweights accomplished what they did with out the core Mexican fanbase.. and they(Oscar and Floyd) did this when the HW division fell off.. believe there's no connection if you want to

I hereby demote you from black jesus to black cesare borgia

why the fukk do you get trying to box me into this argument that De La Hoya is bigger than Ali

De La Hoya was bigger than any of the other heavyweights who were active the same time as him, besides Mike Tyson, are whole debate has been about this

 

[Black_Jesus]

 

[Black_Jesus]

I hereby demote you from black jesus to black cesare borgia

why the fukk do you get trying to box me into this argument that De La Hoya is bigger than Ali

De La Hoya was bigger than any of the other heavyweights who were active the same time as him, besides Mike Tyson, are whole debate has been about this

First you say he was bigger than any heavyweight not named Tyson including Ali, who only fought on free TV. You back peddled and then said he's bigger than the 90s era heavyweights.. Now he's just bigger than any heavyweight active at the same time as him??
Oscar De La Hoya turned pro in 92, and and hadn't reached a million ppv buys until 99.. you seem to love bringing up ppvs, so explain how this nikka was bigger than any heavyweight active at the same time as him yet he hadn't reached a million ppvs until 99, while you have Holyfield averaging around a million ppv buys fighting aginst nikkas like Riddikk Bowe, Foreman, and even him and was doing better numbers than Fishnets

 

[Master Teacher]

First you say he was bigger than any heavyweight not named Tyson including Ali, who only fought on free TV. You back peddled and then said he's bigger than the 90s era heavyweights.. Now he's just bigger than any heavyweight active at the same time as him??
Oscar De La Hoya turned pro in 92, and and hadn't reached a million ppv buys until 99.. you seem to love bringing up ppvs, so explain how this nikka was bigger than any heavyweight active at the same time as him yet he hadn't reached a million ppvs until 99, while you have Holyfield averaging around a million ppv buys fighting aginst nikkas like Riddikk Bowe, Foreman, and even him and was doing better numbers than Fishnets

When did I say any of this, when you want to have a normal discussion reply back you don't even make sense breh

I never back peddled for anything

The whole conversation was about how the WW didn't gets shine while the heavyweight division was poppin, then I pointed out that DLH was big during the time heavyweight fights did big PPV numbers, and he did more numbers than all the heavyweights outside of Tyson

you replied saying that was a stupid statement, because in your feeble pea sized brain when I said all the heavyweights besides Tyson, you took at as the complete history of boxing, so I pointed out that you cannot use Ali for an exmaple because he didn't even fight in the PPV era

Man your a casual fan man
Just Because De La Hoya didn't break records everytime he fought doesn't mean he was getting huge pay days and do huge numbers
so stop it
Oscar wasn't the Welterweight Champ in 92


also De La Hoya and Ali did not fight in the same era so why would I even compare them when there's no way to

And to shut down

if Bowe and all those guys were bigger than Oscar, how come their biggest fight numbers don't compare to De La Hoya

 

[Jello Biafra]

We weren't even talk about floyd, get off the man dikks, hate is purest form of envy you know

Hit me back when Wilder becomes the next tyson, you dumb ass motherfukka

This thread is actually about Floyd, dumbass.
But that's right we weren't talking about him expressly at the time until you brought him up all defensive at the idea that boxing wouldn't crumble and die once he retired.

 

[Master Teacher]

This thread is actually about Floyd, dumbass.
But that's right we weren't talking about him express;y at the time until you brought him up all defensive at the idea that boxing wouldn't crumble and die once he retired.

I'm talking about what we were talking about not what the thread is about you moron

I'm not defensive about anything, it's retarded to even think boxing would crumble when he retired when you already have plenty of stars in boxing

and boxing has never been in trouble has a brand, it's always made more money as the years progressed

just take your L and keep it moving

 

[Jello Biafra]

I'm talking about what we were talking about not what the thread is about you moron

I'm not defensive about anything, it's retarded to even think boxing would crumble when he retired when you already have plenty of stars in boxing

and boxing has never been in trouble has a brand, it's always made more money as the years progressed

just take your L and keep it moving

But it is like you are barely talking about what I posted though.
You are not even arguing against my point because somehow in your empty head you can't comprehend that I was prompting a hypothetical about Deontay Wilder not guaranteeing his rise to stardom or even making a prediction.
I never said boxing would be in any trouble when Floyd retires and I never said that boxing as a sport has been in trouble. My posts were all solely about the heavyweight division.
You are just too stupid for words and I am done going in circles with you.

 

[Master Teacher]

I am no fan of his at all but if that stick-legged hype job Deontay Wilder actually lives up to the hype and captures the world title while still KOing everyone in his path leading up to him putting the beats on Wlad Klitschko, then he would be an immediate global star on the Tyson scale.

once again take your L and keep it moving

 

[Big Boss]

Wilder may very well grow into a star. It's way too early to tell you never know. Stars don't become that way overnight. it takes years to reach that level, and alot of times it's people you would never expect.

Wilder maybe become a big star. He's got some things going for him...

1) He's got the type of style that people (and by people, I mean casuals) love to watch. Just like in baseball, people wanna see home runs. In boxing people wanna see KOs
2) He's got personality. I could see him being this downright nasty guy that people wanna root against.
3) He's an American. Don't sleep on this by the way. That goes further than you think. Just look at some of the biggest stars in boxing history (at least for their time anyway): Ali, Leonard, Tyson, DLH, Mayweather. Even go back further to the days of Sugar Ray Robinson, Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Joe Louis, Jack Johnson. It almost always takes one of us to get the people excited about boxing

Or Wilder could fizzle out. At the moment we don't know. The next big star of boxing could be right under our noses, and we don't even know it.

what about canelo? Oscar 2.0?

 

[King P]

what about canelo? Oscar 2.0?

Canelo is Mexican though. I'm talking about American boxers

Canelo has a big fan base, but it's mostly foreigners. I think if he ever learned to speak English, he could appeal to a much wider fan base