When Floyd Mayweather retires...

[seemorecizzy]

boxing wont die without floyd
but it will definitely take a loss
heavyweight divisionn still aint been da same since tyson left and dat was almost a decade ago

i hope the same doesnt happen to the smaller weights,there definitely might be a little drought

i don't see anyone currently except mayb canelo that really has that star power
broner to a degree but im still not even sure how good he is

at da end of the day, as long as entertaining fights are being made that i find entertaining, i could care less
mainstream can kick rocks
hopefully someone else steps up tho

 

[Master Teacher]

Alright lets forget PPV sells, because those numbers really don't matter at the end of the day, what matters is the gross revenue
Some fights sold more PPVs but made less than the other big fights. Such as Mayweather De la Hoya had more PPV buys than Mayweather Canelo, but made less overall. Just like Evander/Tyson 2 had more PPV buys but made less than Tyson/Lewis

So lets do total numbers that means gate, ppv, all facets of money generated by the fight
now this is all time list for fights that made the most money in the history of the sport

1. Mayweather v.s. Alvarez 150 million 2013
2. Oscar De La Hoya V.s. Mayweather 136 Million 2007
3. Lennox Lewis V.S. Mike Tyson 112 million 2002
4. Mike Tyson V.s. Evander Holyfield 100.2 Million 1997
5. Mike Tyson V.s. Peter McNeely 96 million 1995
6. Floyd Mayweather V.s. Miguel Cotto 94 Million 2012
7. Evander Holyfield V.s. George Foreman 80 Million 1991
8. Mike Tyson V.s. Evander Holyfield 77.99 million 1996
9. Manny Pacquiao V.s. Shane Mosley 75 million 2011
10. Felix Trinidad V.s. Oscar De La Hoya 64 Million 1999

Now these are ten highest grossing fights of all time, now you add this in with all the other big fights that around before and after those, and you will see boxing generates a shyt load of money and was never endangered of being extinct

De La Hoya was generating big money around the same time Mike Tyson huge was generating huge money, so that proves the point, it has nothing to do with weight class, stars will generate the money

everybody on that top ten list is a star, regardless of weight class, that's why they generated the big bucks

 

[Black_Jesus]

We were talking about 90s breh, when the heavyweights still mattered, DLH was still the second biggest star in boxing behind Tyson

there were not WW superstars fighting in the Ali era, also Ali fought on Free TV

I wonder why.. Im sure there was plenty talent at those weights.. its just nobody gave a fukk about them because those weights aren't as prestigious as the HW div....

And I noticed the fact that you brought up that Ali fought on "free" TV ignoring the fact that the current ppv system wasn't set up back then like it is now. Are you arguing here that DLH was bigger than Ali?? Yea or nah??

 

[Master Teacher]

I wonder why.. Im sure there was plenty talent at those weights.. its just nobody gave a fukk about them because those weights aren't as prestigious as the HW div....

And I noticed the fact that you brought up that Ali fought on "free" TV ignoring the fact that the current ppv system wasn't set up.. Are you arguing here that DLH was bigger than Ali?? Yea or nah??

Of course De La Hoya isn't bigger than Ali, Ali has transcended the sport on a global scale

but he was bigger than Lewis, Bowe, and in some aspects even Evander, you said in the 90's nobody cared about the smaller weights and that's not true

 

[Kings County]

I fukks with Floyd but I can't wait until he retires

Andre Ward gets crowned #1 pound for pound fighter in the world

andre ward has no personality

 

[krackdagawd]

andre ward has no personality

Good thing personality is not a requirement to be the pound for pound list but boxing skill is.

#2 pound for pound and there is nothing you can do about it.

#SOGGang

#CrownUs

 

[Master Teacher]

also when people say boxing is dead, it's the old talking heads, who remember when big boxing fights were free on network TV, and since that's not the case anymore they say its dead, when its far from the truth, boxing is making more money now then it ever did

 

[Kings County]

Good thing personality is not a requirement to be the pound for pound list but boxing skill is.

#2 pound for pound and there is nothing you can do about it.

#SOGGang

#CrownUs

lol i fukks with ward but im saying he gotta sell fights start talking shyt lol

 

[Jello Biafra]

Lennox Lewis was popular, he wasn't as popular, but he was popular your fukking talking non sense Evander Holyfield was not astronomically more popular than Lennox Lewis like Tyson was

Evander ain't got no PPV records, only when he fought Tyson same as Lewis, so what are YOU TALKING ABOUT

the heavyweight division fell off because of talent, boxing didn't fall off

your a casual fan because you think boxing fell off in the first place when it NEVER HAS

only casual fans believe this because they heard someone say is on ESPN

DLH and Trinidad is one of the highest grosses fights of all time, and it was 99 before TYSON LEWIS which is still one the highest grossing FIGHTS

DLH was a bigger star than any other heavyweight besides Tyson, the NUMBERS DON't LIE

Are fukking retarded? I never said boxing fell off, the point of every one of my posts was about the heavyweight division falling off not boxing as a sport.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Of course De La Hoya isn't bigger than Ali, Ali has transcended the sport on a global scale

but he was bigger than Lewis, Bowe, and in some aspects even Evander, you said in the 90's nobody cared about the smaller weights and that's not true

Im glad you back tracked that dumb ass statement about Oscar being bigger than any HW not named Tyson..


And no he was not bigger than them other nikkas breh.. Oscar exploded at the tail end of that decade 1999 even though he had been a champ since 94.. Where was his draw back in 94 when he got his 1st title?? Where was his draw when he beat Pernell Whitaker?? Where was his draw power level at when he beat Chavez?? Camacho?? Where was this nikkas drawing power from 92-98 when the heavyweight division was solid?? Where's Oscar's consistancy during this time?

 

[Master Teacher]

Im glad you back tracked that dumb ass statement about Oscar being bigger than any HW not named Tyson..


And no he was not bigger than them other nikkas breh.. Oscar exploded at the tail end of that decade 1999 even though he had been a champ since 94.. Where was his draw back in 94 when he got his 1st title?? Where was his draw when he beat Pernell Whitaker?? Where was his draw power level at when he beat Chavez?? Camacho?? Where was this nikkas drawing power from 92-98 when the heavyweight division was solid?? Where's Oscar's consistancy during this time?

My comment was talking about the 90's era heavies and you know that I didn' retract anythintg you fukking imbecile
I got numbers to back up my statements
Oscar always had drawing power what are you talking

Oscar's numbers have nothing to do with the heavyweight division and all to do with him

Your stupid ass doesn't even realize that the divisions don't affect each other, people want to see stars, thats it, doesn't matter what weight they are fighting

if the heavyweights had stars now, mayweather would still be just as big, you're a fukking moron if you think otherwise

 

[Master Teacher]

Are fukking retarded? I never said boxing fell off, the point of every one of my posts was about the heavyweight division falling off not boxing as a sport.

Everybody knows the Heavyweight Division isn't shyt

your whole argument was the lighter weights are only shining because of the absents of heavyweights which is FALSE

Your the retarded because you think Wilder has a chance to be a megastar on par with Mike fukking Tyson GTFO

Let me repeat this

you said Wilder has a chance to be a Megastar on the level of Tyson, you said this dumb ass shyt

you have no credibility

 

[King P]

Wilder may very well grow into a star. It's way too early to tell you never know. Stars don't become that way overnight. it takes years to reach that level, and alot of times it's people you would never expect.

Wilder maybe become a big star. He's got some things going for him...

1) He's got the type of style that people (and by people, I mean casuals) love to watch. Just like in baseball, people wanna see home runs. In boxing people wanna see KOs
2) He's got personality. I could see him being this downright nasty guy that people wanna root against.
3) He's an American. Don't sleep on this by the way. That goes further than you think. Just look at some of the biggest stars in boxing history (at least for their time anyway): Ali, Leonard, Tyson, DLH, Mayweather. Even go back further to the days of Sugar Ray Robinson, Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Joe Louis, Jack Johnson. It almost always takes one of us to get the people excited about boxing

Or Wilder could fizzle out. At the moment we don't know. The next big star of boxing could be right under our noses, and we don't even know it.

 

[krackdagawd]

lol i fukks with ward but im saying he gotta sell fights start talking shyt lol

Are we fans of boxer's skills or fans of their personalities?

This is a slippery slope you heading down breh

 

[Kings County]

Are we fans of boxer's skills or fans of their personalities?

This is a slippery slope you heading down breh

nikkas like ali, mike and floyd got both .. do u wanna be a household name or just a nikka who was good boxer nikka could be on his way to half a billion by now secure your future breh