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Exactly.

You really have to be religious and embrace that flawed sense of logic to come up with such a flawed sentence. Its disgusting. smh.

Flawed logic? Delusional ass atheists make me laff. :ahh:

If you think my logic is flawed then show it.

All your showing is your antitheism ways which is baseless hate.
 
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I guess I'll throw in my two cents. On religion, I consider myself an outsider. I kinda grew up in the AME church but I really didn't believe. I was going because my mom was forcing everyone to go. As I got older and went to college I met people of different faiths and viewpoints on religion. I just don't feel as if I belong to any of the religions. I think the universe is larger than just this little planet. And if there is a "creator" or "God", he just isn't interested in us or what we think of him/her/it. I think people need to focus on what is in front of them instead of worrying about something you have no control over. I usually laugh when people say, It's in God's hands. Just say whatever you want to make yourself feel better because you are admitting you are helpless. I belief people are as powerful as they believe they are. That you can create your own reality as long as you believe in yourself. So my journey for a "religion" continues, I guess.
I hear you. All I can say to you is this. If you want to have that "breakthrough" then for once in your life you will have to actually "try"
That seems to be the thing that gets overlooked. The teachings say this, give yourself to GOD and his graces will shine down on thee or whathaveyou :hula:
Thats not something easy to do as an adult, let alone as a kid. As a kid, I'd be in the stands/pew/whatever its called and I remember playing with my Tonka cars.
As I got a little older, church was only an hour for us. I'd fall asleep 10/15mins into it everytime. Not on purpose, its like I was put in a trance :manny:
Somedays I would really try to make it thru a service, nope. But I picked up bits n pieces over the years. I read the bible a little bit here and there.
I really couldn't for sure tell you what is real, what isn't. But then one day, I was going thru a tough time in my life and I basically was like "Yo, whats good :yeshrug:"
Thats the cool version. The real version was me crying like a bytch because I was a selfish person. I was looking for relief from the pain I felt inside.
Then in an instant GOD came to me and I knew what I would equate to understanding the entire universe, the meaning of life. It was wild. Once again, I can only speak from my own experience. All this info made me light on my feet. I felt a joy unlike anything I have felt ever before. I knew I couldn't even retain all the info I got, its impossible for the human mind to do such a thing. So I tried in that same instant to remember the most important things I felt. I'll go over just a lil bit of that

1.) I was shown that I shouldn't focus on which religion is the "right" religion. That certain faiths work better for certain parts of the world. For instance, Christianity works for America because america is the land of the free. So that religion goes hand in hand with America's ideals. The Muslim faith for instance is more strict. Thats why in those countries you mess up, you might get killed.

2.) I don't even like talking about this, but I was made aware that Reincarnation is an option if you "fail" this lifetime. Most of us probably are already in that process :manny: You ever seem to know things you have no idea how you know them, but just do? :hula:

3.) For now I'll just stop, because one thing I was also getting was being told that I'm not supposed to have total understanding of how everything works. Atheist the most try to accomplish that. They be like :"Explain everything that has ever happened or I don't believe a damn thing" because they know you can't explain everything. Its not even your job to do that, its each individuals person job to seek GOD out for themselves.

4.) GOD is in all of us, talks to all of us. He is your conscious. Has your conscious ever steered you wrong?

5.) Finally because I left this out, the way I was able to receive his graces? I let go. I stopped putting a "but" inbetween me and GOD. I was basically totally submissive which is the only way you will see for yourself. I didn't grovel around for a week, a day, a minute. As soon as I was totally serious, all this info popped into my head just like how an idea can pop in your head.

My side piece at the time was atheist and I hit her with a ton of the knowledge I received and no B.S. she was converted that day. She didn't join a church or anything, she just seen the difference. It was scary honestly. I then told her I was gonna go take a walk with the dog. I started walking, then I was like "You know what, I'm gonna jog and I'm gonna dedicate this jog to GOD" I ran 2/3miles from that point, running full speed without getting tired once. I only slowed down because the pitbull I was running with couldn't keep up (Tru Story)
I wasn't a person who ever jogged. I smoked weed, partied 4days a week back then. Had unlimited energy during that run tho. I'll stop right there. Hopefully you find time to just relax and get in touch with your spiritual side. All these PC's, TV's, Cellphones/etc keep us from thinking for ourselves so its even harder to establish a relationship with GOD because we too busy doing other things. Hollaback!!!
 
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I hear you. All I can say to you is this. If you want to have that "breakthrough" then for once in your life you will have to actually "try"
That seems to be the thing that gets overlooked. The teachings say this, give yourself to GOD and his graces will shine down on thee or whathaveyou :hula:
Thats not something easy to do as an adult, let alone as a kid. As a kid, I'd be in the stands/pew/whatever its called and I remember playing with my Tonka cars.
As I got a little older, church was only an hour for us. I'd fall asleep 10/15mins into it everytime. Not on purpose, its like I was put in a trance :manny:
Somedays I would really try to make it thru a service, nope. But I picked up bits n pieces over the years. I read the bible a little bit here and there.
I really couldn't for sure tell you what is real, what isn't. But then one day, I was going thru a tough time in my life and I basically was like "Yo, whats good :yeshrug:"
Thats the cool version. The real version was me crying like a bytch because I was a selfish person. I was looking for relief from the pain I felt inside.
Then in an instant GOD came to me and I knew what I would equate to understanding the entire universe, the meaning of life. It was wild. Once again, I can only speak from my own experience. All this info made me light on my feet. I felt a joy unlike anything I have felt ever before. I knew I couldn't even retain all the info I got, its impossible for the human mind to do such a thing. So I tried in that same instant to remember the most important things I felt. I'll go over just a lil bit of that

1.) I was shown that I shouldn't focus on which religion is the "right" religion. That certain faiths work better for certain parts of the world. For instance, Christianity works for America because america is the land of the free. So that religion goes hand in hand with America's ideals. The Muslim faith for instance is more strict. Thats why in those countries you mess up, you might get killed.

2.) I don't even like talking about this, but I was made aware that Reincarnation is an option if you "fail" this lifetime. Most of us probably are already in that process :manny: You ever seem to know things you have no idea how you know them, but just do? :hula:

3.) For now I'll just stop, because one thing I was also getting was being told that I'm not supposed to have total understanding of how everything works. Atheist the most try to accomplish that. They be like :"Explain everything that has ever happened or I don't believe a damn thing" because they know you can't explain everything. Its not even your job to do that, its each individuals person job to seek GOD out for themselves.

4.) GOD is in all of us, talks to all of us. He is your conscious. Has your conscious ever steered you wrong?

5.) Finally because I left this out, the way I was able to receive his graces? I let go. I stopped putting a "but" inbetween me and GOD. I was basically totally submissive which is the only way you will see for yourself. I didn't grovel around for a week, a day, a minute. As soon as I was totally serious, all this info popped into my head just like how an idea can pop in your head.

My side piece at the time was atheist and I hit her with a ton of the knowledge I received and no B.S. she was converted that day. She didn't join a church or anything, she just seen the difference. It was scary honestly. I then told her I was gonna go take a walk with the dog. I started walking, then I was like "You know what, I'm gonna jog and I'm gonna dedicate this jog to GOD" I ran 2/3miles from that point, running full speed without getting tired once. I only slowed down because the pitbull I was running with couldn't keep up (Tru Story)
I wasn't a person who ever jogged. I smoked weed, partied 4days a week back then. Had unlimited energy. I'll stop right there. Hopefully you find time to just relax and get in touch with your spiritual side. All these PC's, TV's, Cellphones/etc keep us from thinking for ourselves so its even harder to establish a relationship with GOD because we too busy doing other things. Hollaback!!!
See, now watch this... This guy just told you that "god" came to him and he understood the universe...

Now, explain it... the universe. I'll be here waiting.
 
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I hear you. All I can say to you is this. If you want to have that "breakthrough" then for once in your life you will have to actually "try"
That seems to be the thing that gets overlooked. The teachings say this, give yourself to GOD and his graces will shine down on thee or whathaveyou :hula:
Thats not something easy to do as an adult, let alone as a kid. As a kid, I'd be in the stands/pew/whatever its called and I remember playing with my Tonka cars.
As I got a little older, church was only an hour for us. I'd fall asleep 10/15mins into it everytime. Not on purpose, its like I was put in a trance :manny:
Somedays I would really try to make it thru a service, nope. But I picked up bits n pieces over the years. I read the bible a little bit here and there.
I really couldn't for sure tell you what is real, what isn't. But then one day, I was going thru a tough time in my life and I basically was like "Yo, whats good :yeshrug:"
Thats the cool version. The real version was me crying like a bytch because I was a selfish person. I was looking for relief from the pain I felt inside.
Then in an instant GOD came to me and I knew what I would equate to understanding the entire universe, the meaning of life. It was wild. Once again, I can only speak from my own experience. All this info made me light on my feet. I felt a joy unlike anything I have felt ever before. I knew I couldn't even retain all the info I got, its impossible for the human mind to do such a thing. So I tried in that same instant to remember the most important things I felt. I'll go over just a lil bit of that

1.) I was shown that I shouldn't focus on which religion is the "right" religion. That certain faiths work better for certain parts of the world. For instance, Christianity works for America because america is the land of the free. So that religion goes hand in hand with America's ideals. The Muslim faith for instance is more strict. Thats why in those countries you mess up, you might get killed.

2.) I don't even like talking about this, but I was made aware that Reincarnation is an option if you "fail" this lifetime. Most of us probably are already in that process :manny: You ever seem to know things you have no idea how you know them, but just do? :hula:

3.) For now I'll just stop, because one thing I was also getting was being told that I'm not supposed to have total understanding of how everything works. Atheist the most try to accomplish that. They be like :"Explain everything that has ever happened or I don't believe a damn thing" because they know you can't explain everything. Its not even your job to do that, its each individuals person job to seek GOD out for themselves.

4.) GOD is in all of us, talks to all of us. He is your conscious. Has your conscious ever steered you wrong?

5.) Finally because I left this out, the way I was able to receive his graces? I let go. I stopped putting a "but" inbetween me and GOD. I was basically totally submissive which is the only way you will see for yourself. I didn't grovel around for a week, a day, a minute. As soon as I was totally serious, all this info popped into my head just like how an idea can pop in your head.

My side piece at the time was atheist and I hit her with a ton of the knowledge I received and no B.S. she was converted that day. She didn't join a church or anything, she just seen the difference. It was scary honestly. I then told her I was gonna go take a walk with the dog. I started walking, then I was like "You know what, I'm gonna job and I'm gonna dedicate this jog to GOD" I ran 2/3miles from that point, running full speed without getting tired once. I only slowed down because the pitbull I was running with couldn't keep up (Tru Story)
I wasn't a person who ever jogged. I smoked weed, partied 4days a week back then. Had unlimited energy. I'll stop right there. Hopefully you find time to just relax and get in touch with your spiritual side. All these PC's, TV's, Cellphones/etc keep us from thinking for ourselves so its even harder to establish a relationship with GOD because we too busy doing other things. Hollaback!!!

Amazing story. Man, my whole issue is the submitting to God part. I just don't understand the need to do it. I've been through very rough patches in life and I always knew to just stick through it. Even when a judge was threatening to lock me up for year, I could always see myself moving forward through the rough patch because I know I would have to endure it. They say different strokes for different folks and I just haven't got to the level with God or any God yet. I guess I'm still looking for a personal truth.

I really question the whole religion thing too much, I think. I just try too hard to understand the nature of God. But then I get distracted with all the beauty that surrounds us on a daily basis and I just don't think about God. I look at the stars and just enjoy them as they are. Like the only purpose for me right now is just exist and enjoy existing.

That and I'm big on personal responsibility. I know too many people who use God as just an excuse. "God didn't intend this to happen". "He was good guy, God thought it was time for him to go to heaven". It's that helplessness that I can't be part of. It makes me sick to hear these preachers who are getting paid by the community, the same communities that are blind to the violence around them. I came from one of those communities. And I just carry too much anger to participate in the willful ignorance. Even if it is just for Sunday. It's too hard for me to ignore. To many young lives have been lost for me to say, "It's part of God's plan". There has to be more. Maybe Christianity has it wrong, maybe I can find the answers in an ancient religion. I don't know but I can't submit. At least not right now.
 

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Amazing story. Man, my whole issue is the submitting to God part. I just don't understand the need to do it. I've been through very rough patches in life and I always knew to just stick through it. Even when a judge was threatening to lock me up for year, I could always see myself moving forward through the rough patch because I know I would have to endure it. They say different strokes for different folks and I just haven't got to the level with God or any God yet. I guess I'm still looking for a personal truth.

I really question the whole religion thing too much, I think. I just try too hard to understand the nature of God. But then I get distracted with all the beauty that surrounds us on a daily basis and I just don't think about God. I look at the stars and just enjoy them as they are. Like the only purpose for me right now is just exist and enjoy existing.

That and I'm big on personal responsibility. I know too many people who use God as just an excuse. "God didn't intend this to happen". "He was good guy, God thought it was time for him to go to heaven". It's that helplessness that I can't be part of. It makes me sick to hear these preachers who are getting paid by the community, the same communities that are blind to the violence around them. I came from one of those communities. And I just carry too much anger to participate in the willful ignorance. Even if it is just for Sunday. It's too hard for me to ignore. To many young lives have been lost for me to say, "It's part of God's plan". There has to be more. Maybe Christianity has it wrong, maybe I can find the answers in an ancient religion. I don't know but I can't submit. At least not right now.
Youve got it mayne. No need to add bullshyt to your understanding of the world. As you already see it doesnt answer anything. When you hear or see a story like ol budy's hes using "god" as a crutch, that is a common theme. Its like when someone gets hooked on drugs at a time when they are most vulnerable. Literally the same thing. There is no "personal" truth. We all live in the same earth and witness the same godless world, only thing is they have to make excuses for why the world looks like there is no god, and nikkaz like you and me can just enjoy the stars as is.

The whole "submit" thing is one of the worst aspects of religion. In essence its saying, "believe and you will believe" its the epitome of non-sense.
Youre already there my dude. Enjoy the 70 give or take years we got cuz its all we got.
 

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Amazing story. Man, my whole issue is the submitting to God part. I just don't understand the need to do it. I've been through very rough patches in life and I always knew to just stick through it. Even when a judge was threatening to lock me up for year, I could always see myself moving forward through the rough patch because I know I would have to endure it. They say different strokes for different folks and I just haven't got to the level with God or any God yet. I guess I'm still looking for a personal truth.

I really question the whole religion thing too much, I think. I just try too hard to understand the nature of God. But then I get distracted with all the beauty that surrounds us on a daily basis and I just don't think about God. I look at the stars and just enjoy them as they are. Like the only purpose for me right now is just exist and enjoy existing.

That and I'm big on personal responsibility. I know too many people who use God as just an excuse. "God didn't intend this to happen". "He was good guy, God thought it was time for him to go to heaven". It's that helplessness that I can't be part of. It makes me sick to hear these preachers who are getting paid by the community, the same communities that are blind to the violence around them. I came from one of those communities. And I just carry too much anger to participate in the willful ignorance. Even if it is just for Sunday. It's too hard for me to ignore. To many young lives have been lost for me to say, "It's part of God's plan". There has to be more. Maybe Christianity has it wrong, maybe I can find the answers in an ancient religion. I don't know but I can't submit. At least not right now.
Well I'll tell you how I got to my breaking point. Everyone has a double standard at first. Most don't realize it or care, but we all grow up with a double standard.
Because of this, its too easy to see faults in people. Even "preachers". But GOD's teachings protect you from that by telling you not to put faith in any MAN, but only in GOD. So a mistake people too often make is base a belief on what a MAN is doing. You mention the preachers who get paid by the community, Does god reward that preacher for being a good son of GOD? I cant say. What I do know is that, lets say that preacher is evil. GOD never wanted you to base YOUR FAITH on what you see any man do. Preacher, teacher/etc. So anyone who ever uses that as a reason to not believe is already in the wrong na mean. Having faith in GOD to handle things is not a weakness, its a strength. It only appears as a weakness to those who don't have a relationship with GOD on that level :hula: Now to my breaking point because I too feel I can handle about anything and wouldn't need to rely on faith to get me thru it. With my double standard I was at my side pieces house. Had a girl, we had a kid, she had a 2nd one on the way. We beefed because I came in late (side piece dropped me off) and one thing leads to another and the police is called. At this time, the police in my area was taking nikkaz to jail for any contact. Just said I grapped her arm which is all I did, they took me in :rudy:
My side piece bails me out. I'm chillin at her house. She was a lil different than the norm because she refused to have Cable. Said TV made people stupid. And everytime I'd spend the weekend at her house, it really was relaxing mentally because TV didn't keep us... stupid for lack of a better word right now. Now even tho I'm at my side piece joint, I still loved my main squeeze. I hate her, but I love(d) her. And I had time to really think things over and somehow came to the conclusion that I'm gonna tell her about all the times I cheated on her :leon: Why? I looked at it like this. If I were to die, and there really is a heaven? If before I was allowed to enter the pearly gates I was told my Main cheated on me. Would I be able to forgive her and enter or would I become enraged? I know how emotional she (and most women) can get so why would I put her in that position? The truth will set you free blah blah blah, and if I truly loved her, then I owe her that. So I did it.
It wasn't an easy conversation, she wanted to know more details about certain ppl/events and I told her no because I didn't want her to dwell on all that. She didn't take it too well, then hung up on me.

So a few hours later she calls me back calm, a little too calm. You can tell in her voice. And she says she's glad I came clean because she had some things she wanted to get off her chest that (and this phrase will never leave me) she was gonna take to the grave :sadcam:
She then went into the times she creeped, and would say shyt like "Remember when this happened... yeah, I was really doing such n such" and she started laughing while going over some of her transgressions. The entire time having this ere calm voice that was basically mocking me. She then said again she was glad to get that off her chest. I didn't show any emotion even tho I was devastated and because I seemed okay with it, she got mad. She wanted me to flip out, she started getting rude, I told her I'll call her back later and God bless you.

My dumbass with my double standard, at my side pieces house just broke down basically. It wasn't that she cheated, it was the no remorse she had while telling me. Thats how I was finally ready to be like "Look, just take this pain away.. dead serious GOD :birdman:"
I then had what they call a revelation. And this is what it was. This is how I found GOD...

He didn't beam all that info into my head yet, it just hit me why I was in pain in the first place. I was putting her before GOD. How so?
Ask anyone what they would do if somebody was to try to harm your lady, you'd want to hurt them/kill them even. GOD wouldn't want you to kill supposedly, but we would put GODS will to the side to handle business ourselves. The reason she was able to hurt me is because I had her above GOD overall. Something I would of laughed at if you told me that prior to. Because I had her first, is the reason I felt pain. If you have GOD first, then no person can hurt you see. Basically GOD wants you to be a PIMP sort of. Not in the sense of pimping hoes, but the way a PIMP doesn't care what his hoes does? They tell you, you die alone. All you can do is get yourself right with GOD before you die. All I can do is try to steer her, my kids, friends, family in the right direction. If I was doing that, I would feel sorry for her, not pain. Then the revelation hit me that instant and everything I said in the previous post happened. What I learned is GOD is LOVE, GOD is GOOD. LITERALLY
When you show love, you showing GOD. When you do good, your doing GOD's will. Thats what he wants you to do. And when you actually do these things, you get rewarded by GOD. Thats why you or anyone would feel good if they helped a homeless person out, did something charitable for kids/etc. You feel GOD when you do those things. GOOD/LOVE is not something separate from GOD. It is GOD. So to me, I was brought up as a Christian, but the 10 commandments is my religion...
 
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Still waiting for atheists to show how my logic is flawed. :ahh:
I'm not sure what you guys was talking about, but I see a flaw right now in your logic. Being humble about your position. Maybe they riled you up, but your approach is probably more off putting to an atheist which fuels there fire to disagree with you :manny:


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I'm not sure what you guys was talking about, but I see a flaw right now in your logic. Being humble about your position. Maybe they riled you up, but your approach is probably more off putting to an atheist which fuels there fire to disagree with you :manny:


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I asked a question.

fukk how they feel I just want an answer.
Well, you believe a claim is true because it can't be (or hasn't been) falsified. That's not logical.
I believe that a possibility can occur based on our existence and accomplishments and no established facts saying that it can't occur in other parts of the universe.

My belief is not baseless because its based on us.
 
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