Religion/Spirituality what's with all the atheists on the coli?

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Yes, that's what I said. Most racists don't realize they're racist so you fit the description even more now. All you see is black and white.

Islam was created to wipe out Africans? I'm trying to be respectful but that's the dumbest thing I've ever read in the dumbest sub-forum I've ever been in.

Islam isn't for Arabs, or black people, or any one group. It's for all of mankind and if you don't understand that you don't understand the message. As such, whenever you speak on the topic you're going to sound unintelligent as you do now.

So why your focus is only on black people and fukk everyone else, I'm striving for all humanity with patient perseverance.

And speaking of mindblown, I'm sure you have some non-African blood somewhere in your body. Self hate is a helluva drug. :umad:.

from this its clear you didn't read my posts, I'll reply when you read n research what I have to say before letting your emotions take over you


stories? breh... stories? you see a story in my sig? smh
 

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Your question is one of the more stupid ones ever posed and its answer does nothing for your stance. Thats how my response answers your moronic question. If you cannot show how "existence" suggests your magical sky pappy over Atum then you have literally nothing.

Sometimes I wonder how people function.

My question has nothing to do with my stance. Talk about stupid. :heh:

I'll repeat it for you: You exist don't you? As does the rest of the universe. Let's put the Creator aside for a moment, and just explain that...

Do you need me to type it again? Perhaps in all caps next time?
 
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The links were just examples but there are definitely people who are actively pushing
for their beliefs to manifest in policy, in the case of "Gay Marriage" it has
happened.
And to someone in the LGBT community those effects are definitely "Tangible".


The question is, what is the definition of marriage.

If the LGBT community wants to get married for religous reasons then I can see your point..

If the LGBT community wants to get married for the Federal\State benefits, then the most states\federal definition has been defined as a legal union between a man and woman for 100s of years..

When you factor in historical countries\societies that have came and went, the institution of marriage has been defined as a union between man and woman for milleniums...

You're not gonna overturn that overnight. But it will happen eventually
 

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from this its clear you didn't read my posts, I'll reply when you read n research what I have to say before letting your emotions take over you

It's clear you're not comprehending mine. I told you your posts have nothing to do with Islam. What you're saying is not from the Quran and can't be supported by the Quran. I'm talking about Islam, you're talking about nonsense. No wonder we're not connecting.
 

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I'll take the proof of a historic Jesus... lank? I actually just bought Bart Ehrman's book about it and will get to it this week likely. But historians agreeing that there was a historical jesus is not evidence for a historical Jesus. I am willing to look at the evidence for it though, that helped them come to that conclusion. When da funkdoc tried to link me to the evidence, he linked a guy who literally said some form of "since the bible mentioned Rome, and Rome is real, then Jesus was real too" Also, how far away from the description of Jesus in the bible must we get away from before it stops being the same person?

So, yes, if theres evidence I'd love to see it.
I mean really it would be just a bunch of scholars claiming that the Romans were meticulous about record keeping and things of that nature. And most of those scholars are theologians or former christians who became athiests, sorta like Ehram.

Would that be proof enough for you? Cause that's just about all there is :yeshrug:
 

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I mean really it would be just a bunch of scholars claiming that the Romans were meticulous about record keeping and things of that nature. And most of those scholars are theologians or former christians who became athiests, sorta like Ehram.

Would that be proof enough for you? Cause that's just about all there is :yeshrug:
As far as I know, the Romans did not take meticulous records, or very few of them exist today if they did. But that is part of the argument against Jesus. There is no record of him coming from the time period where he supposedly lived. What would I accept as evidence? I dont know, lets see what there is and I can decide based on that. I must admit that it will be extremely difficult for me to accept evidence that doesnt point to the Jesus described in the bible.

Imagine a legend about a guy named "Joe" who supposedly does all these things like Neo in Matrix in 2013, and no one decides to write about it outside of a sketchy book containing other fables. Then people a couple thousand years later concede that "Joe" didnt really do all those Neo things, but there really was a guy named Joe in 2013. Is it really the same guy as the Neo guy?
 

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As far as I know, the Romans did not take meticulous records, or very few of them exist today if they did. But that is part of the argument against Jesus. There is no record of him coming from the time period where he supposedly lived. What would I accept as evidence? I dont know, lets see what there is and I can decide based on that. I must admit that it will be extremely difficult for me to accept evidence that doesnt point to the Jesus described in the bible.

Imagine a legend about a guy named "Joe" who supposedly does all these things like Neo in Matrix in 2013, and no one decides to write about it outside of a sketchy book containing other fables. Then people a couple thousand years later concede that "Joe" didnt really do all those Neo things, but there really was a guy named Joe in 2013. Is it really the same guy as the Neo guy?
Dunno...don't care...just trying to throw the Christians a bone and not come off like a jerk :manny:
 

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It's clear you're not comprehending mine. I told you your posts have nothing to do wit Islam. What you're saying is not from the Quran and can't be supported by the Quran. I'm talking about Islam, you're talking about nonsense. No wonder we're not connecting.

History is nonsense? what I talk is the knowledge of history. No hidden agendas, no bias

this is not a personal battle, I feel no anomosity towards Muslim and Islam.

I present to you, the facts of history

Now who's reaching?

Next time I say "Jesus Christ" be sure to take note
 
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History is nonsense? what I talk is the knowledge of history. No hidden agendas, no bias

this is not a personal battle, I feel no anomosity towards Muslim and Islam.

I present to you, the facts of history

Islam was created to wipe out Africans is not history. It's propaganda.

Again, what you're saying has nothing to do with the Quran, can't be found anywhere in Quran and can't be supported by anything in Quran. So what you call "history" I call a lie.

Did Muslims fight in wars and conquer territories? Yes. But was Islam "created to units the Arabs" and all that other nonsense? That's where that line gets drawn.
 

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i don't know islam started but i don't think it was started to "wipe out africans". i know it's been used to take it over just like the euros went over there to "spread the word" and it turned out to be something else. the bottom line for africans is that the arab and western world has failed it and they are stupid still embracing and believing that sh1t. cause whoever imported these religions are just using it to steal their resources.

arabs (and christian ppl) are good ppl. and many of the foot soldiers probably don't realize how they're being used by that system of belief and that's why i have a problem with that system of belief more than the little riders.
 

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here is my thing about religion why does god choose to talk to some people and not others you would thing god would try to talk to atheist so that they wont go to hell
Uhh ... he did. its in the book.

"Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?" (Acts 9:4, NIV)

When Saul asked who was speaking to him, the voice replied, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do." (Acts 9:5-6, NIV)

After his conversion, Saul changed his name to Paul

Before his conversion, Paul approved of the stoning of Stephen (Acts 7:58), and was a merciless persecutor of the early church.

^^Pay attention
  • Stephen was the first martyr of the Christian church. His final words were similar to Jesus' last words on the cross. Stephen was the only one to say Jesus was standing, instead of sitting, at his Father's right hand.

  • Two strange things happened as a result of the death of Stephen. First, Saul began a vicious personal persecution of the Way, as the early Christian church was called. Second, Jesus struck down Saul on the Damascus Road, converting him into the Apostle Paul, one of the greatest missionaries in the history of the church.

The Apostle Paul, who started as one of Christianity's most zealous enemies, was hand-picked by Jesus Christ to become the gospel's most ardent messenger. Paul traveled tirelessly through the ancient world, taking the message of salvation to the Gentiles. Paul towers as one of the all-time giants of Christianity.

The Apostle Paul's Accomplishments:
When Saul of Tarsus, who was later renamed Paul, saw the resurrected Jesus Christ on the Damascus Road, Saul converted to Christianity.


The Apostle Paul's Strengths:
Paul had a brilliant mind, a commanding knowledge of philosophy and religion, and could debate with the most educated scholars of his day. At the same time, his clear, understandable explanation of the gospel made his letters to early churches the foundation of Christian theology


you asked a question. now you have your answer. DONT SKIM it. READ IT.

and you can google search "atheist say's God spoke to me" or something like that. and you will get legit atheist that are now saved believers of Christ." now you will also see a bunch of websites of atheists clowning the idea of God speaking to you as well. but again. you asked, and here's your answer.

God just spoke to you, thru me.
 

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i don't know islam started but i don't think it was started to "wipe out africans". i know it's been used to take it over just like the euros went over there to "spread the word" and it turned out to be something else. the bottom line for africans is that the arab and western world has failed it and they are stupid still embracing and believing that sh1t. cause whoever imported these religions are just using it to steal their resources.

arabs (and christian ppl) are good ppl. and many of the foot soldiers probably don't realize how they're being used by that system of belief and that's why i have a problem with that system of belief more than the little riders.

Baseball bats can be used to kill people. So are baseball bats evil? Or are the PEOPLE who use baseball bats to kill people evil? Let's use logic.

You half way make sense but at the end is where it all falls apart. You said PEOPLE use religion to steal resources and manipulate foot soldiers which is why you have a problem with... the MESSAGE.

:what: That makes no sense at all. You wanna fight but you have no clue where to swing.
 
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