Religion/Spirituality what's with all the atheists on the coli?

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Simple. It was part of the process to bring Africans over to the Americas. It was used to justify slavery. So was Islam, but nice strawman Chris.

Nah. It wasn't. It was a scapegoat, just like most things people like to vilify....

Slavery was about economics....Chattel slavery via the Europeans added the godless dehumanizing element...

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

no you need to look deeper and realize they see color. they have you fooled its not about color. them arabs and italians/catholics or other white religions nearer you clearly see color. maybe in your black church you don't see color cause y'all black. but step out of church and live in the real world. the real world sees color. you might run to your church to hide from reality but you still have to step outside church and live with lifes harsh realities.

you asking what you could do if abandoning religion is like some women who don't see life without their boyfriends because they've submerged themselves emotionsally to the point where they can see themselves leaving without them. but the truth is life will go on fine and it goes on great for non-believers. take for example in other parts of the world where they don't believe in what you believe in.

it's hard to abandon religion. esp since most of us are brought into it as a children. and our whole environment and culture is mostly religion. christmas, easter, your church probably doing good work in the community, your biitch being religious, mom being religious eetc... its hard jus to say fuq it and abandon it. its the same thin g. great church architecture, your boss being religious and you gotta impress him by showing her your religious (hey we all need a job), or your church got you your job, your sig etc... it's hard and even impossible to get out of it. especially when your church folk give you nice things and tell you it's god that gave it to you.


when you reformat yourself its a good feeling but a scary one too. you are alone and have to create your own rules based on your "morals" and life experiences. for a while there you might be lost but so long as you don't do dumb sh1t and "stand your ground" you'll be fine.

Who is "they", breh? Worship is between an individual and God. So again, I have to ask what are you talking about? Your generalizations make you look foolish.

And you still haven't given me your alternative although I shudder to even read what you have to say based on the nonsense you've already posted. You sound lost, breh. You have no direction yet want people to follow you?

Ain't nothing worse than a rebel without a cause.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

black people have bigger issues to deal with. If someone contributes to the community positively then I'm not hating on their religion ... or lack of religion.

Just so we are clear though.. most of these religions ideas and concepts originated in Africa.
Many of the black panthers were atheist.
Jesus or whatever his name was- was a black guy in the Middle East.
Most of the people in Northern Africa aren't what the original people looked like for most of history - but they are still technically African now, since they were born on that Continent.
Humans are the things that oppress people... all this other shyt you all are using to make excuses for human motivations- are just ideas.

Sums it up nicely.....Thread should have ended here

 

[Kritic]

my non-beleiving brethrens now do you see why we'll never get out of this hole? look at the way he looks at me and he's whole attidude when he's the one who really needs help. this is how malcolm x and martin luther king ended up dead. when their own brainwashed ppl turn against them and look at them as the enemy.


when or if you ever wake up it's going to be too late. just like i did. the whole race is headed in the wrong direction.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Uh no...lets. There's 0 evidence of an afterlife.

i could argue that, but i'm not talking about "evidence", i'm talking about logic. There is an afterlife or there isn't. There's no proof that there ISN'T an afterlife. Its a stalemate no matter how you try to argue it away.

And none of that "burden of proof" crap, this isn't court, its a conversation. Its just as pointless to argue for as it is to argue against so why waste the energy arguing. I'm sure there are other things both groups can devote their attention to.

 

[DEAD7]

Real talk, what does one get out of not believing? I mean if it was a poker hand and you stood to loose eternity in heaven...would you call? and if so what in the pot... what are you hoping to win?

It doesn't seem worth it to be atheist IMO


I'm not taking shots, just curious.

 

[Mr.Whiskers]

Stop telling people how to navigate through life. Either side. To laugh at a theist or an atheist is asinine. Let's all not act like the chance of afterlife is not 50-50. Believe what you want but stop slamming people for thinking other things.

Thank you. This post has begun to exhaust itself. Just reading these inane arguments are confirmation of the problem. It's the point between faith and religion, though you may identify with a specific construct of a religion there are also different factions within the greater notion of "Christianity", Catholic, Protestant, Lutheran, etc. Every individual has their own unique interpretation of these religions regardless that the Bible, Koran or Torah are all the same when we read them. We read the same thing. But our interpretation can't help but be different from the person next to us due to experiences in our lives.

I respect people with faith, I do. But faith in your interpretation of religion, your own beliefs, are something completely different from following another who tells others to follow their understanding and would then condemn the rest to hellfire because of it. Especially in regards to history, how many people were manipulated or killed by a single person in the name of religion? Crusades, Inquisition, Jihads, Colonization, (Catholic priests & little boys?) etc. But I digress. Following one's faith and religion do not mean that one associates with this past but I can't put MY faith in a cleric or priest or another man simply because he claims he has a greater connection or understanding with god, the universe, whatever he chooses. Everyone has their own path and it's not up to us to force understanding onto them, just to reach one of each other. Because as of right now i'm not concerned about an ideological war with gods in the stars above our heads but rather ensuring there's not one between people because of it.

Peace. Rant done.

 

[WaveGang]

I don't deal with religion, I deal with the Laws, Statutes, and Commandments given only to the Israelites.

I don't follow Christianity, but if you're saying slavemasters gave the kidnapped Negroes the Bible, I'm going to call you damn liar.

well the english translated version yeah

 

[LionofJudah]

well the english translated version yeah

But according to most people, slaves were not taught to read and didn't know English, so how could this make sense?

 

[WaveGang]

But according to most people, slaves were not taught to read and didn't know English, so how could this make sense?

why does one have to speak the english language to be given the english translated version of the bible?

 

[LionofJudah]

why does one have to speak the english language to be given the english translated version of the bible?

They don't, but aren't people saying Christianity/the Bible was given to us by the white man? Why would he give us something we obviously can't read?

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

my non-beleiving brethrens now do you see why we'll never get out of this hole? look at the way he looks at me and he's whole attidude when he's the one who really needs help. this is how malcolm x and martin luther king ended up dead. when their own brainwashed ppl turn against them and look at them as the enemy.


when or if you ever wake up it's going to be too late. just like i did. the whole race is headed in the wrong direction.

Cuz, you typing a whole lot but not saying anything. Can you explain this "right path" you're on? You're not doing a very good job explaining it. It sounds like a bunch of empty words because your posts lack depth and insight.

"Everything you do is wrong and you need to stop doing it!"

But then you don't say anything else. If I followed you I'd just be standing there doing nothing. Am I even allowed to breathe, breh? All these posts but you have yet to say a single word.

 

[WaveGang]

They don't, but aren't people saying Christianity/the Bible was given to us by the white man? Why would he give us something we obviously can't read?

religion was one of the biggest tools of colonialism used by the western europeans. Sheeeit Christianity was a tool of colonialism used by the Romans on western europeans

 

[LionofJudah]

religion was one of the biggest tools of colonialism used by the western europeans. Sheeeit Christianity was a tool of colonialism used by the Romans on western europeans

That still doesn't make it a 'white man's book' as many people try to claim.

 

[WaveGang]

That still doesn't make it a 'white man's book' as many people try to claim.

He corrupted and rewrote our stories, thats his book and his chinese whispers. We cant claim that