Whats gone' happen if Dr.' Umar Johnson doesn't deliver on his school?(Update: stripper scandal smh)

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Good Afternoon to All!

I'm very saddened by the constant and unapologetic beatings and murders of our young Black men. Please keep them and their families in constant prayer. On a more positive note, I visited yet another prospective FDMG location. A small college in southern part of the country. Although not as large as St.Paul's(VA), the location will privide us with 85 acres, an adjacent river, dormitory space for at least 150, several homes, an adminstration center, and an unfinished gymnasium. The asking price for this small college is only $900,000!! That's less than the $2M pricetag on St.Paul's (which I'm being told may be purchased by the federal gov't before season's end), and the Chamberlain-Hunt Academy. This is quite a blessing if you can onlyhelp me reach this goal. $900,000 is quite doable, but we need to act fast, there are other interested parties who also recognize what a bargain this is. Please give a little more with each donation. We love the $20s & $50s, but the $100s are what we need. However, every little bit counts so please do what you can.

GodSpeed,

Dr.Umar Johnson,
Prime Minister of Mental Health & Mis-Education for Black Children Worldwide


:leon:If I got money from people under a particular premise.. for a particular people... for the place that they live, in particular....


And I didn't deliver on that:dahell:

And took the money and left overseas..:ld:


:lupe:I may expect someone to kill me, so I'd leave very quickly..... (:whoa:only if I received the money from the most opposed and poorest people in my nation. )
 

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Hold him accountable? What, for not being able to magically pull money from "conscious" peoples' pockets?

If the school doesn't get funded, then it will simply be another example of black people talking and not walking. Another example of black people needing to finance their own movement but falling short. It will be a loss.

People who believe in what he's doing should donate. Not once, not twice. But continually until the school is purchased. N#ggas want to send $10 and say "I donated" like the goal has been reached.

N#ggas want to pray. N#ggas want to march. N#ggas to cry. N#ggas want to protest.

But ask for financial backing and n#ggas got excuses.

Peace
lol, so it's black people's fault?

I've put out gofundmes n shyt.. and ended up funding shyt myself... I'm coming out 8K right now for some shyt I can't afford.. because ^^^^^^

But if you want to do, then you will do.

Eitherway--- He got money, and he should use it for something HERE in ammerikka. For something productive. Black Media, black food market, something.....
 

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lol, so it's black people's fault?

I've put out gofundmes n shyt.. and ended up funding shyt myself... I'm coming out 8K right now for some shyt I can't afford.. because ^^^^^^

But if you want to do, then you will do.

Eitherway--- He got money, and he should use it for something HERE in ammerikka. For something productive. Black Media, black food market, something.....

Wait, so you really believe Dr. Umar Johnson has an extra $2 million dollars just laying around?

Bro, there's a big difference between $8000 and $2,000,000. You can stack $8000. Most people can't stack $2M-even over many years.

And if this man is asking black people to put their money where their mouth is and support a plan to build a school directly benefitting black children, and if black people don't support, then who else is to blame? No one can say the dude isn't trying.

Peace
 

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The right question is what is he going to do with the money that was donated if he can't build the school. If he puts it to another worthy project that's cool. Alot of people think he is just going to pocket the money. I really hope that is not the case.

These "alot of people", have they donated? If not, why do they even have the need to comment on something they dont even financally support?

N#ggas making comments on other peoples' money like they're taking a loss too.

Peace
 

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Wait, so you really believe Dr. Umar Johnson has an extra $2 million dollars just laying around?

Bro, there's a big difference between $8000 and $2,000,000. You can stack $8000. Most people can't stack $2M-even over many years.

And if this man is asking black people to put their money where their mouth is and support a plan to build a school directly benefiting black children, and if black people don't support, then who else is to blame? No one can say the dude isn't trying.

Peace

1) is he willing to build anything for black Americans aKA his people, if he is unable to get the school due to poor planning, huge oversight, and lack of knowledge poor black people not Giving enough millions??

2) With the money he does have he could easily start early childhood education centers... He's a doctor, so he should know that's More crucial than higher education. Build the base then the rest falls into place....

3) Freedom isn't free. Muthfakers need to get that through their heads. you say 8K isn't a lot. I say it is when you have 5 kids and 3 households to support and when it's 100% going to help people not in your family. 8K is a lot when you don't have hundreds of thousands coming to you just for speaking, when you actually put real work in and Actually produce Tangible shyt.


4) either way, this isn't even what my question was ABOUT -- I ASKED........... what is gonna happen if he doesn't produce? At the end of the day.. you either produce and help our blacks trapped in america with tangible shyt or you can kick rocks.
 

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Anybody ever contact dude and try and chop it up with him.
 

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Haven't really been following this, but:

1) why does he need to raise the full amount in cash? Shouldn't he be able to put 20% down and borrow against it? A $900,000 facility should only require $180k out of pocket to purchase.

2) where will the funds come from to operate, maintain and pay property taxes for this school?

3) does he have a 10 year budget plan? It literally takes less than 1hr to make one...

4) has he discussed grant money? The government funds a lot of bullshyt. With a business plan he should be able to get matching funds from the gov or a foundation that receives gov funding. The organizations that ice out grant funding are desperate to find places to put their money. Generally, the problem is the people who seek funding aren't qualified or don't properly fill out their grant apps.

5) where is his relationship with a Black bank or credit union? Where is his relationship with a Black builder? Who are his institutional partners?
 

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We will stand in line to buy Jordan's and patronize foreign owned businesses before donating to a school geared towards uplifting black boys. This is why we fall short time and time again. People simply aren't willing to sacrifice for greater cause no matter how noble that cause may be.
 

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Haven't really been following this, but:

1) why does he need to raise the full amount in cash? Shouldn't he be able to put 20% down and borrow against it? A $900,000 facility should only require $180k out of pocket to purchase.

2) where will the funds come from to operate, maintain and pay property taxes for this school?

3) does he have a 10 year budget plan? It literally takes less than 1hr to make one...

4) has he discussed grant money? The government funds a lot of bullshyt. With a business plan he should be able to get matching funds from the gov or a foundation that receives gov funding. The organizations that ice out grant funding are desperate to find places to put their money. Generally, the problem is the people who seek funding aren't qualified or don't properly fill out their grant apps.

5) where is his relationship with a Black bank or credit union? Where is his relationship with a Black builder? Who are his institutional partners?
lol, you're a c00n if you ask legitimate questions. The conscious community is anti clairvoyance. :childplease:
NTM, just because you donate money doesn't mean that you need to know what will happen with the money.:smugdraper:
Talking about long term financial planning n shyt... :camby:


We will stand in line to buy Jordan's and patronize foreign owned businesses before donating to a school geared towards uplifting black boys. This is why we fall short time and time again. People simply aren't willing to sacrifice for greater cause no matter how noble that cause may be.

:shaq2: I love this guilt trip.

its the same thing since the 1930s.... lol, yall will buy this n shyt but wont support black this n that. :dead:

How about - a detailed plan attracts more donations.... and a back up plan that people are comfortable with , ensures more donations:leon:
 

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We will stand in line to buy Jordan's and patronize foreign owned businesses before donating to a school geared towards uplifting black boys. This is why we fall short time and time again. People simply aren't willing to sacrifice for greater cause no matter how noble that cause may be.

These are feelings.

What are the numbers?

Can I at least see them on a napkin?
 

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We will stand in line to buy Jordan's and patronize foreign owned businesses before donating to a school geared towards uplifting black boys. This is why we fall short time and time again. People simply aren't willing to sacrifice for greater cause no matter how noble that cause may be.

I agree about the Jordan's (I don't have a pair and glad I missed the wave honestly :manny:)

But Jermaine Shoemake aka Dr. Umar Johnson isn't a real Dr. He never mentions where he earned his PhD, has insufficient business planning and foresight and goals that are constantly changing. I guarantee I could spend 4 months developing a more comprehensive plan and sub-plan with a committee, better and more clearly defined objectives and deliverable goals, and a forecast based on time and money generated. And it's not even my passion. This is supposed to be his "passion", his calling in life, his great journey, and it's executed so poorly.

He has no credible partners. He is supposedly a Dr., how come he couldn't find any credible partners to support him? :usure:

Honestly, I feel that breh is the reincarnation of so many "false prophets" for the black community. Talking about putting money where their mouth is, yet he didn't put the time and energy to even go and get the DEGREE he is claiming to have. We shouldn't blindly trust the first person offering us salvation because he sounds good.

TBH (and this is further than just replying to your point), he uses the same church cadence and scare tactics to fund whatever his misguided agenda is. I watched the video, he makes good points, but why isn't his business plan available? Why doesn't he have an interactive website (cost roughly 2000 MAX)? If he is so esteemed, why hasn't he launched a successful media campaign to get this idea into the mainstream? Why hasn't he written a book to promote to raise funds?

He wants us to blindly trust him and any questions from an informed and educated place are scoffed at....you know who else we are expected to blindly trust without getting clear answers to questions:

Politicians
Police Officers
Church Leaders
CEOs

You know who answer questions without ridicule despite their "personal" beliefs:

Educators

Which one is Dr. Umar?
 

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The worst part about this whole thing, IMO, is missing out an opportunity to practice the group economics that he advocates.

1) pay a Black web designer to make a real website

2) hire a Black professional consultant to make a business plan w/ a budget

3) hire a Black lawyer & accountant for transparency

4) hire a Black college student to write his grant applications

Doing these things with the $ he's already raised would go a long way towards inspiring trust. He's raised hundreds of thousands of dollars over the last couple years with little to show for it. That's a lot of money that could be put to use...
 

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The worst part about this whole thing, IMO, is missing out an opportunity to practice the group economics that he advocates.

1) pay a Black web designer to make a real website

2) hire a Black professional consultant to make a business plan w/ a budget

3) hire a Black lawyer & accountant for transparency

4) hire a Black college student to write his grant applications

Doing these things with the $ he's already raised would go a long way towards inspiring trust. He's raised hundreds of thousands of dollars over the last couple years with little to show for it. That's a lot of money that could be put to use...
Word.

I don't feel this is too much to ask. it just makes sense. And should make more sense to a .......Doctor, lol.
 
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