What yall think of this essay I wrote for UT?

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Dude I think you need to rewind and look at the series of posts in this thread. You're asking me why would you have a scientific discussion on the issue when I'm not even the one who brought it up. I'm not trying to have a discussion about it at all.

What you're saying is proof positive that people base their beliefs on emotion rather than logic. Because I have a belief that you don't agree with and you find offensive, you're going to automatically discount everything else I have said? So even if I am doing something truely great and for the benefit of black people, you will not support it because it's coming from someone with beliefs you don't agree with?

See dude, this is why black people are in such a bad condition all over the world. Wherever you look, blacks are afraid to take advice from people they don't like. It's all about the emotional appeal. You've got people in Africa who absolutely REFUSE to base their social and economic development on anything resembling what the Europeans have done. They are dead set in their ways so they will not follow proven models of success because often times these models were created by the white man, the devil.

I see clearly now there is no hope in trying to spread the truth. People are only human, so I can't expect the average person to have my level of impeccable logic, freely immune from petty emotions. I am glad we are having this conversation and I thank you. I now know I need to not only appeal to people's logical side, but also their sensitive emotional side.

I will no longer stand by my true beliefs since people aren't interested in having an intelligent conversation about them. They just want to defame my character. The next time someone asks me about genetics I'm going to lie and tell them what they want to hear.

Says the person who ignores decades of hard science research regarding the biological and genetic implications of "race", and instead parrots emotional garbage peddled by long since discredited racist theology. Perhaps you're not simply "ignoring" hard science, and you're just too stupid to understand?
 

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Lol dude I'm done with it. I'm never talking about genetics again. It gets people too riled up. My beliefs are my beliefs.

I could just as easily say you're a moron for having beliefs I find absurd. You belief in the fairly tale of god don't you?
 

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Dude I think you need to rewind and look at the series of posts in this thread. You're asking me why would you have a scientific discussion on the issue when I'm not even the one who brought it up. I'm not trying to have a discussion about it at all.

What you're saying is proof positive that people base their beliefs on emotion rather than logic. Because I have a belief that you don't agree with and you find offensive, you're going to automatically discount everything else I have said? So even if I am doing something truely great and for the benefit of black people, you will not support it because it's coming from someone with beliefs you don't agree with?

See dude, this is why black people are in such a bad condition all over the world. Wherever you look, blacks are afraid to take advice from people they don't like. It's all about the emotional appeal. You've got people in Africa who absolutely REFUSE to base their social and economic development on anything resembling what the Europeans have done. They are dead set in their ways so they will not follow proven models of success because often times these models were created by the white man, the devil.

I see clearly now there is no hope in trying to spread the truth. People are only human, so I can't expect the average person to have my level of impeccable logic, freely immune from petty emotions. I am glad we are having this conversation and I thank you. I now know I need to not only appeal to people's logical side, but also their sensitive emotional side.

I will no longer stand by my true beliefs since people aren't interested in having an intelligent conversation about them. They just want to defame my character. The next time someone asks me about genetics I'm going to lie and tell them what they want to hear.
:dwillhuh: wtf is this

your "beliefs" are based off of no scientific evidence. its basically a weird mixture of fox news and self hate :pachaha:

unless you plan to keep your "beliefs" shrouded in the closet, expect to be called out on this for the rest of your life
 

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im not going around "believing" white people have a stupid and violent gene based off of centuries of rape, slavery and murder now am i :mjpls:

but do you man :heh: just a heads up, your beliefs are based on "emotion" and not science or logic. expect for that to be pointed out whenever you ever mention your beliefs to anyone again
 

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Lol dude I'm done with it. I'm never talking about genetics again. It gets people too riled up. My beliefs are my beliefs.

I could just as easily say you're a moron for having beliefs I find absurd. You belief in the fairly tale of god don't you?

Lets keep the conversation focused on your "belief system" that assumes neo-nazi racist doctrines, in lieu of empirically based science concerning population groups within the human species. I can have a belief system that the earth is flat, and gravitational force pulls objects upward and makes them weightless if I wanted to be an ignorant jackass, and irritate the hell out of reasoned people.
 

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i think most people would agree there is evidence of the existence of jesus :sas1:

now where is the reputable scientific evidence that proves the existence of these genes on which you base your beliefs :sas2:

i think you'd find better success, and probably better discussion if your beliefs were based on environment affecting humans and not some deep psychological hate of yourself and black people that leads you to believe you and your family are genetically inferior

telling kids they can overcome their environment makes more sense then telling them they can overcome a genetic inferiority you concocted in your head (and/or read on a racist website)

edit: actually, when youre at UT can you ask the head of the science department whether blacks are genetically inferior. i'm interested in hearing their answer :shaq:
 
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That's exactly what I said. I will keep my beliefs in the closet.

who's getting emotional now? :umad:


and....

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:scusthov: many of your beliefs and idiotic unfounded claims of black inferiority follow you around this forum like a skunk.
 

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I DO believe that environment affects humans. I believe the environment is a bigger factor than race. I believe it's like 80% environment 20% race. You however believe it's 100% environment, 0% race. I dont know what evidence you have to support that.

There is no solid evidence that Jesus was divine. I'm not asking if there was a man named Jesus. I'm asking what evidence do you have that this Jesus person walked on top of water, was born to a virgin, died on a cross, then bodily rose into the sky as a zombie 3 days later?

You believe in all that because your emotions tell you to. And here you are trying to say I'm a moron for my beliefs???
 

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I DO believe that environment affects humans. I believe the environment is a bigger factor than race. I believe it's like 80% environment 20% race. You however believe it's 100% environment, 0% race. I dont know what evidence you have to support that.


Kindly provide us with a reputable study, any reputable study from which you gleaned your "beliefs" from, which posit the idea that a population of "race" is bound to one another individually, genetically and biologically, and that sharing varying degrees of the same observable trait (skin color), also commands that this group share immutable intrinsic traits regarding intelligence and behavior without deviation . Please, stop being selfish and share this research with the class (awaits the "political correctness" cop out). Spare us your "emotional" beliefs and show and prove. Anyone can make a claim.
 

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I don't have the indespitable evidence because scientists refuse to talk about it for fear of having their reputations tarnished. There is a ton of scientific evidence out there but I'm not gonna bother posting it because you're just gonna say that because it comes froma "racist" it doesn't count. All the peoplewho believe in genetic differences have a tarnished reputation.

Here's two things you're not realizing. First off, scientists do NOT have any proof that all races are the same on an intellectual or behavioral level. They will only say theres no solid proof for either side.

However they may mislead you and say things like, different races share virtually the same DNA. But that's a misleading statement because we already know that it only takes a few genes to make huge differences in the body. For example it only takes one codon (which is a fraction of ONE gene) for someone to have sickelcelled anemia. Blacks are more likely to have this than other races. So that is an example of a trait you see among one race more prevalent than you see among other races. And it is due to only ONE gene. So the notion that we are all virtually all the same on a genetic basis doesn't mean anything.

The second thing is that you are assuming, for whatever reason, that the default position is for there to be no behavioral traits you find more prevalent among one racial group over another. Why is that the default? It makes nosense and I can show you why.

You agree that Asians are more likely to have smaller pensis than blacks. Some may have ten inch pensis, but the average asian has a smaller penis than the average black.

Then average asian is shorter than the average black.

Blacks have a genetic advantage when it comes to the 100 meter sprint. No white man can ever beat the top black man. This is clearly because the African has a genetic advantage.

Blacks are more likely to develop high blood pressure than whites.

Blacks and asians are more likely to age well than whites.

Blacks are more likely to have fuller lips, breasts, and butt, compared to other races.

Some races from Europe are more likely to have bad teeth because of a gene that makes it so their saliva doesn't have the proper enzymes to kill bacteria.

So you agree, whole heartedly, that there are physical traits you are more likely to find among one race over another. The basis for these physical traits are the genes.

But for some reason, mother nature decided to build an invisible wall. Mother nature said let there be physical differences, EXCEPT for the brain. For some reason you think all racial groups have the exact same brain, even though so many other things are different.

And the funny thing is, you will probably agree that blacks have more RHYTHM than other races, like Asians for example. Where does this rhythm come from? You honestly believe it's 0% genetic and 100% environment?

So if blacks can have a mental trait that others are less likely to have, like rhythm, then why can't blacks also have behavioral traits that others are less likely to have.
 

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Im not going to waste too much time here. The way in which you mentally process is just embarrassing, and im quite confused whether Im being punked here, and this is all one big prank. A few things:

No scholarly articles or journals, huh? I knew Id get the "political correctness" excuse.

You seem to operate under the "assumption" that races have existed in pure genetic harmony, and in isolation. I would say we know this to be false, but given how committed you are to marrying your realties with the regulation of white supremacy, the potency of your ignorance is unquantifiable and I wouldnt dare attempt to grasp just how low you'll sink.

The concentration of sickle cell among blacks is owed to exposure to environments beset by malaria. Its geographical (why american black are far less afflicted than Africans)...no blacks didnt get the sickle cell gene. There have been many breakthroughs in this research in the last 5 years or so...again an indication that your base of reading is limited.

A lot of the crap you pulled out of your ass is due to influence of environment and exposure and its interaction with genetic influence this is passed down individually. Ive addressed a lot of it in earlier posts. I dont know much about science surrounding dikk sizes and its concordance with brain power. You seem to know a lot about this subject, and its of great interest to you. Care to provide any scholarly work on that, or do you have a cop out there as well?

Whats ironic about you is that you are so restricted to this 18th-early20th century debunked scientific conclusions, when those conclusions conveniently determined that the "oriental" was backwards and inferior to whites...and Asians (certain groups within the population of course) didnt have to go through slavery, jim crow, and colonization to prove that science to be junk.

I guess these kids developed instantaneous genetic deformities, once exposed to bigoted environments that discriminated against their person. Immediately these kids started underperforming, and adopting maladaptive behaviors and traits. All it took was a lousy science experiment to turn these genetically superior Europeans into NIKKERS!

 

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You're right about the sickle cell. I actually learned about that not too long ago I can't believe I forgot it. But anyway, you didn't address not one single point I made besides that.

And in regards to the scientific papers, I will say again, where are YOUR scientific papers PROVING that all races are the same?
 
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